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volume wrote: I too have caved... after seeing the movie last week, I had to...
Managed to put the models together in about 10min flat... it took another 10min or so to become familiar/fluent with the rules... very elegant and 'clean' - the lack of modifiers means that there's next-to-no flicking back-and-forth in the rulebook... very refreshing.
Has anyone else toyed with escalating the game beyond the 'War Against the Machines' set?... I'm sorely tempted to hunt-down some vehicles and reinforcements... hordes of Endos....
I may have a new favourite game...
Yup, Alessio even mentioned that it would be so long before they got to the vehicles that they specifically included rules for people to use the currently available model kits and toys.
The game is basically 1/48 scale, and there's a plethora of 1/48 helicopters and tanks... bought an Apache for dirt cheap from Amazon (from "Bravo Team")
Mars Attacks trucks are perfect for pickup trucks for the Resistance...
and Pegasus Hobbies makes the Flying Aerial HK and the tracked Ground HK. I bought one of each and they are fantastic kits.
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
Funny, I've seen build reviews of the Aerial kit a while back and the modeller did not make any mention of the kit not matching up with other 1/32 so I expect that Pegusus had got the supposed scale completely right for that release.
CptJake wrote: Leading Edge had a Terminator game and an Aliens game if I recall correctly.
Leading Edge games were notoriously overcomplicated. The Leading Edge crew were all military men, and wanted the shooting in the game to be realistic.
When a game requires math skills beyond addtion/subtraction to determine target numbers it's a bit too realistic complicated for smooth play.
On the plus side, I have a couple of boxes of Leading Edge's T2 miniatures that may finally get put to use.
I believe that the lead author Barry Nakazono was a physicist, possibly even an honest-to-god rocket scientist. Word back in the day was they shot hundreds of rounds into pig carcasses to assess damage. In actual play, their games were super-detailed military simulations and they flowed just fine. Although saying that, the skill systems were good enough. Played Phoenix Command (moderns), Dragonstar Rising (SF) and Aliens (which was actually a much stripped-down version of the rules). Never tried the really complicated melee one (Sword of Glory??).
Once a character was hit though, they were often in deep trouble.
I can see that for some of their licences the game engine they used would be awful...
I have a set of the Aliens rules. Very "crunchy". I'd like to try them out, but I'm alone in my gaming group. Supposedly, much like the film, it's hard not to die.
First post on this topic, it's the AVP circus that makes me appreciate this game at this time. Very tempted. I'd really like to see some big Skynet kit. I have plenty of scenery bits n bobs that would work. (thanks Mars Attacks / Deadzone)
I'll need to find a way of buying a kilo of 28mm skulls though!
Dakkamite wrote: Is this TLoS? Because usually Alessio means a great ruleset let down by the worst mechanic known to mankind.
Size/volume, taken from Starship Troopers and Warmachine.
Size stacking taken from Starship Troopers.
Absolutely the most elegant ruleset I've ever played.
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
Dakkamite wrote: If only he'd seen the light before he made Bolt Action. Will take a look at this terminator thing for sure
Yup, hoping a revised edition of BA uses the Size thing. It's really pretty much the best way to deal with LOS.
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
....and here's the video overview I did for Terminator with the local game store!
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"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
So the game arrived yesterday. I think I've been spoilt by the spoils of Kickstarter as the retail price for the retail box doesn't seem so attractive at face value. That said sometimes with the junk that comes out of kickstarter you're just lucky to receive something. The miniatures appear to do the job and I'd been after some terminators for ages. The rulebook seems good, I'm a fan of the fluff and appreciate the cheat sheets and quick start rules. Granted the scenery is a bit flat, but it makes it a game playable out of quite a portable small box. I hope the game is received well enough so that hunter-killers are produced however I found the miniatures relatively expensive so I'm concerned that they may be more than the existing Pegasus model kits. The scope of the game/rule set is what appeals to me. I'd like to throw some cops and swat teams at a terminator in a T2 setting. I'm sure its possible to make many other scenarios and cross overs with little effort.
There are points, but at least the scenarios in the quick start rules are listed for the scenario. In the big rule book you use the points for the most part.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
I'd say a normal police officer would have worse stats than your average rebel. The cops ideally don't shoot at people in real world conditions on a daily or weekly basis whereas the resistance fighters probably do. SWAT though I'd keep the same though.
That would be correct, they are worse than the Resistance soldiers.
The rules also cover cars, trucks, pickups, armored vehicles, helicopters, etc. So you can cover any time period of the future war.
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
They look great man! (and so does the US WW2 stuff in the back there!)
I just grabbed a couple blisters of the new Terminator Specialists and Terminator Heavy Weapons metal endos and they are absolutely insanely detailed and gorgeous.
"...and special thanks to Judgedoug!" - Alessio Cavatore "Now you've gone too far Doug! ... Too far... " - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke
Warlord seem to have a cheaper starter set up on their website (although it is sold out arm) only £50 and from what I can see the only difference is it doesn't have the deluxe matt or ltd eat Kyle Reese model. If this end up being sold by third party store for say £45 I think it will help more people get into the game.
The film not doing so well hasn't helped. I think we need some hk flyers / tanks now to help get interest up.
it's the quiet ones you have to look out for. Their the ones that change the world, the loud ones just take the credit for it.
Tamereth wrote: Warlord seem to have a cheaper starter set up on their website (although it is sold out arm) only £50 and from what I can see the only difference is it doesn't have the deluxe matt or ltd eat Kyle Reese model. If this end up being sold by third party store for say £45 I think it will help more people get into the game.
The film not doing so well hasn't helped. I think we need some hk flyers / tanks now to help get interest up.
It has the same mat as the more expensive version. What it is missing (besides the Kyle Reese model) is the full rulebook, it only comes with the quick start rules.
Every time a terrorist dies a Paratrooper gets his wings.
Quick start rules only, well that kinda kills the set for me. Will make sure anyone I know looking into the game goes for the full version.
Kinda a shame but explains the price difference.
it's the quiet ones you have to look out for. Their the ones that change the world, the loud ones just take the credit for it.
" - Rick Priestley "I've decided that I'd rather not have you as a member of TMP." - Editor, The Miniatures Page "I'd rather put my testicles through a mangle than spend any time gaming with you." - Richard, TooFatLardies "We need a Doug Craig in every store." - Warlord Games "Thank you for being here, Judge Doug!" - Adam Troke 
