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I still haven't seen the movie myself, but I am really enjoying the game. I really like the mechanics and how asymmetric the forces are.

It's not a bad film, I probably preferred it to T3 and Terminator Salvation. Of course not a patch on T2, but then that film has been elevated to the heavens now by nostalgia and it having been the greatest thing even when I watched it as a teenager.

If you haven't seen the trailer then you might actually enjoy it a lot more, there's a great twist in it but it was utterly ruined by the pre-release trailers that were running up to the cinema release of the film.

I really like the new film. It's my second favorite terminator film, and my third favorite Terminator story. Robocop verses Terminator, by Darhorse Comics, is still my favorite.

I thought the film had a lot of promising ideas and then failed to deliver on any of them. It wasted far too much time setting up plot hooks for a sequel rather than telling a satisfying story on its own. All in all, it wasn't cringingly bad like T3 or a colostomy bursting shartacular failure like TS, but it wasn't actually good in my opinion. Like the Robocop reboot, it had the seeds to become an envelope-pushing story, but it was strangled by committee as a mere shoot.

i must be the only person who actually liked Terminator Salvation...
I want minis of those bikes!!!

Terminator Genisys was fun, but like Pacific said, i hadn't seen the trailer first...

they've done a good job with some of the minis in this game...
the Arnie mini w/shottie looks great, and the Terminators look fun to paint...
i'm not sold on the humans, though...

always good to see Alessio has still got it...
seems like he writes good games...

cheers
jah

In case anyone is looking for a cheap buy in for this game, there's fellow on eBay who sells Scratch and Dent games for dirt cheap. I've had nothing but good experiences with him and he has 4 for $25 each. I grabbed one just for the extra Endos.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEJ-Terminator-Genisys-The-Minature-Game-Battle-For-The-Future-/361443682898?hash=item5427b8ea52:g:~BMAAOSwbdpWVTC8

That's actually a very good price. I thought for the size and number of minis/content, the normal msrp was way too high at $112 and should have been roughly half that.

FYI, that seems to be the cheaper version of the game that lacks the big rulebook.

Thanks, that does make a difference. I didn't recall that they did two versions.

I honestly wonder if the two versions are hurting the game. It is almost certainly confusing people.

Nomeny wrote:
I managed to watch the movie recently and it was pretty good up until they time-traveled into the future, at which point it got a little muddled. I still think the franchise needs a straight-up war movie, kind of like a zombie movie but with shiny chrome robots instead of squishy dead people.

Well... Terminator Salvation? That was basically all Future War.

Not really. That was what I found so disappointing about it. No plasma guns, no hordes of shiny metal kill-bots. They invented stuff where there was already existing imagery. The only good scene was the one with Conner and the body-builder wearing Arnold's face, and that was ruined by having the Terminator be uncharacteristically gentle with the dude. That was something I liked about Genisys, was where the Terminator really had a go at Reese.

 TheWaspinator wrote:
I honestly wonder if the two versions are hurting the game. It is almost certainly confusing people.

There are two versions? I was kinda browsing it during Black Friday but had the same thought as Warboss about the boxed set.

 Azazelx wrote:

 TheWaspinator wrote:
I honestly wonder if the two versions are hurting the game. It is almost certainly confusing people.

There are two versions? I was kinda browsing it during Black Friday but had the same thought as Warboss about the boxed set.

Yeah, the cheaper version has a 16-pg rulebook whereas the more expensive one has a 128-pg rulebook and metal Kyle Reese figure. I believe that's the only difference. Same terrain, resistance soldiers and endos otherwise.

If I ended up getting that, a large part of the reason would be for the rules after hearing Judgedoug praise them so much. I'm guessing the 16pg version is both cut down in terms of scope and variety (just the basics of what the figs in the box can do in prebaked scenarios). The figs though do nothing for me so I wouldn't ever pay a $90 tax to get the book.

 warboss wrote:
If I ended up getting that, a large part of the reason would be for the rules after hearing Judgedoug praise them so much.

I'd recommend just buying the rulebook on its own, it is the most worthwhile item in the product line.

Triple9 wrote:
In case anyone is looking for a cheap buy in for this game, there's fellow on eBay who sells Scratch and Dent games for dirt cheap. I've had nothing but good experiences with him and he has 4 for $25 each. I grabbed one just for the extra Endos.

That is a store local to me, the most well-established game shop in Richmond.

16 page rules? That sounds positively anaemic. I'd have thought if there were to be 2 rulebooks it might have been like the difference between the KoW main rulebook and the "gamer's edition".

The 16 pages is a 'Quick Start' rule set, and does a good job of doing just that.

 Azazelx wrote:
16 page rules? That sounds positively anaemic. I'd have thought if there were to be 2 rulebooks it might have been like the difference between the KoW main rulebook and the "gamer's edition".

I just bought the bigger rules book, Black Friday Steal at $10, and I don't think there is much more space needed than 16 pages for the rules. The Forces of Humanity and Machines stat blocks are pretty utilitarian, like KOW, and each army's army list only takes up a page each.

There was a surprisingly comprehensive section on making terrain. I don't have it in front of me, but I want to say 20+ pages on how to make a modern building, a sump, terrain board, etc...

Lots of art, and a half dozen pages of Printable/photocopy ready game markers.

Warlord currently have a deal on the Terminator Genesys game where you can get the War Against the Machines boxed set, plus either extra resistance soldiers OR extra endoskeletons, plus two of the metal miniatures.

Can anyone recommend what would be the best extras to get if getting that deal? I was thinking extra resistance soldiers along with the T-1000 and Infiltrator. Can someone with the rules (and point costs) advise if that seems like a good way to go?

Nobody wants to help me?

Sorry, like apparently most people posting/reading this thread, I don't actually have the game. My initial interest died out when the pics of the minis and the follow up price surfaced.

Albino Squirrel wrote:
Warlord currently have a deal on the Terminator Genesys game where you can get the War Against the Machines boxed set, plus either extra resistance soldiers OR extra endoskeletons, plus two of the metal miniatures.

Can anyone recommend what would be the best extras to get if getting that deal? I was thinking extra resistance soldiers along with the T-1000 and Infiltrator. Can someone with the rules (and point costs) advise if that seems like a good way to go?

Yes, that would be my recommendation. Both the T1000 and Infiltrator are excellent additions to the Machine army - plus it allows Resistance dogs! And the 1000 is 200+ points by himself, could make a fun scenario of like a dozen resistance soldiers versus one T1000.
And yeah, two boxes of Resistance will help out immensely. Outfit half of them with plasma carbines, two with missile launcher, two with grenade launcher, and the rest with assault rifles/shotguns - these will be your chaff guys



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Triple9 wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:

 TheWaspinator wrote:
I honestly wonder if the two versions are hurting the game. It is almost certainly confusing people.

There are two versions? I was kinda browsing it during Black Friday but had the same thought as Warboss about the boxed set.

Yeah, the cheaper version has a 16-pg rulebook whereas the more expensive one has a 128-pg rulebook and metal Kyle Reese figure. I believe that's the only difference. Same terrain, resistance soldiers and endos otherwise.

Battle for the Future is the boardgame and War Against the Machines is the miniatures game.

The only difference between the two games is that the War Against the Machines has the full rulebook and Kyle Reese metal fig.

This means that both versions have the 16 page boardgame rules.

As an aside, the infiltrator and T1000 miniatures are both really awesome as well. I wish Warlord would release a Robert Patrick and T2 arnie (as the Terminator Genisys arnie and John Conner are exceptional), although i guess the lisence doesnt extend to that.

Does anyone have any thought on creating a good post-apocalypse terrain board? Was thinking of getting some ruins etc. to put on a Secret Weapon moulded terrain board or similar (realise I should probably have a look in the 40k section for something like this actually! Although obviously want to stay away from gothic architecture)

Mantic's Mars Attacks terrain should work pretty well, especially the ruins. This may be the only non-GW background that allows for the ROB pile of skulls terrain. Some WGF skeletons and a playground set would make for a nice homage.


Anyway, it looks like I have a copy of the game incoming. I also received an Aerial HK. How easy would it be for me to incorporate the HK into the game? I would love to try a group of resistance fighters against a single HK scenario.

The big rulebook does have stats for the Aerial HK.

Thanks for the tip about the ROB board Bob, that might be a good purchase and suit it really well. Will see if I can pick one up second hand.

Ooh and an HK, where are you getting one of those from?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Mantic's Mars Attacks terrain should work pretty well, especially the ruins. This may be the only non-GW background that allows for the ROB pile of skulls terrain. Some WGF skeletons and a playground set would make for a nice homage.


Anyway, it looks like I have a copy of the game incoming. I also received an Aerial HK. How easy would it be for me to incorporate the HK into the game? I would love to try a group of resistance fighters against a single HK scenario.

That's precisely what I got - a bunch of 1/48 dollhouse playground terrain, several sets of the Secret Weapon bricks, and several sets of WGF skeletons

I'm using a Games and Gears modern urban city board though.

And both the Aerial HK and Hk Tank are in the rulebook (along with Black Hawks, Apaches, Humvees, Bradleys, and Abrams tanks)

DO go get the official faq though, there's a range modifier thing that makes aerial HK's accidentally impossible to hit in some cases that is fixed in the FAQ.

 Pacific wrote:
Thanks for the tip about the ROB board Bob, that might be a good purchase and suit it really well. Will see if I can pick one up second hand.

Ooh and an HK, where are you getting one of those from?

The Aerial HK is a model by Pegasus games. The box says it is 1/32 scale, but the reviews say it's 1/56. It's roughly the size of a GW flyer, so I'm happy with it. Mine was a gift, but I see them on Amazon typically selling for $35.

My advice, if you get one, is to clip off the alignment tabs on the engines before you assemble it because they don't actually align the halves.




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 judgedoug wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Mantic's Mars Attacks terrain should work pretty well, especially the ruins. This may be the only non-GW background that allows for the ROB pile of skulls terrain. Some WGF skeletons and a playground set would make for a nice homage.


Anyway, it looks like I have a copy of the game incoming. I also received an Aerial HK. How easy would it be for me to incorporate the HK into the game? I would love to try a group of resistance fighters against a single HK scenario.

That's precisely what I got - a bunch of 1/48 dollhouse playground terrain, several sets of the Secret Weapon bricks, and several sets of WGF skeletons

I'm using a Games and Gears modern urban city board though.

And both the Aerial HK and Hk Tank are in the rulebook (along with Black Hawks, Apaches, Humvees, Bradleys, and Abrams tanks)

DO go get the official faq though, there's a range modifier thing that makes aerial HK's accidentally impossible to hit in some cases that is fixed in the FAQ.

That terrain sounds awesome. Do you have any pictures?

Thanks for the tip about the FAQ! Still most of a month before my game arrives. Standard shipping.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 Pacific wrote:
Thanks for the tip about the ROB board Bob, that might be a good purchase and suit it really well. Will see if I can pick one up second hand.

Ooh and an HK, where are you getting one of those from?

The Aerial HK is a model by Pegasus games. The box says it is 1/32 scale, but the reviews say it's 1/56. It's roughly the size of a GW flyer, so I'm happy with it. Mine was a gift, but I see them on Amazon typically selling for $35.

My advice, if you get one, is to clip off the alignment tabs on the engines before you assemble it because they don't actually align the halves.

Brilliant, thanks for that!

See that Pegasus also do a land-based HK, do you know what kind of scale those bad boys are compared to the Warlord minis?