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I keep getting emails from the GW about their new releases, and at first I thought there must be something wrong with my brain, as I am seeing horrifying price increases across the board. Army deals now seem to be starting at £250 and running upwards of £450, and (I can barely even conceive of this) I've just seen a standard Space Marine assault squad being advertised for pre-order at £50!

£50!

I'm guessing for this price they're hand-delivered in a golden Land Speeder and Rachael Leigh Cook gets out, kisses you passionately in front of all your friends then leads you to your bedroom for some saucy loving action, walks out of your house in a daze loudly proclaiming you as the best lover who ever lived, and the actual assault squad itself is hand-carved from jade by surviving Olmec wizards who are half-man, half-alien, and are prepared to share their secrets of telekinesis and longevity with you and only you - and Jervis Johnson pays your gas and electricity bills for the next six months?

There's no way in the world that these are just ten plastic models that have been available for the last ten or fifteen years, just given a makeover, and I assume that all new Space Marine armies henceforth will no longer include assault squads at all?

Weren't Space Marine Assault Squads £25 for 5 guys anyway? This is just like buying two boxes I guess? £5 for a single plastic non-character miniature does hurt though, that's pretty extortionate.

I haven't for some time.

Funny enough, the models I do buy are a tad more expensive per 10 guys than what I would get buying from GW. However, the models I do buy are completely customizable, have the exact bits/weapons I want in the exact quantity I want, are of a much higher sculpt/detail quality, and come from a small team of people who engage with the community.

 Blacksails wrote:
I haven't for some time.

Funny enough, the models I do buy are a tad more expensive per 10 guys than what I would get buying from GW. However, the models I do buy are completely customizable, have the exact bits/weapons I want in the exact quantity I want, are of a much higher sculpt/detail quality, and come from a small team of people who engage with the community.

What models are these?

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
I haven't for some time.

Funny enough, the models I do buy are a tad more expensive per 10 guys than what I would get buying from GW. However, the models I do buy are completely customizable, have the exact bits/weapons I want in the exact quantity I want, are of a much higher sculpt/detail quality, and come from a small team of people who engage with the community.

What models are these?

Vic Minis.

Tannenberg specifically. My choices from GW are either the limited pose and weapon selection of the equally priced metal Mordians, or go for the plastic Cadians, that don't look half as good and don't come with all the weapons I'd need for squads like vets.

Yes, but not for 40K or Fantasy. Just playing skirmish games these days.

 Blacksails wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
I haven't for some time.

Funny enough, the models I do buy are a tad more expensive per 10 guys than what I would get buying from GW. However, the models I do buy are completely customizable, have the exact bits/weapons I want in the exact quantity I want, are of a much higher sculpt/detail quality, and come from a small team of people who engage with the community.

What models are these?

Vic Minis.

Tannenberg specifically. My choices from GW are either the limited pose and weapon selection of the equally priced metal Mordians, or go for the plastic Cadians, that don't look half as good and don't come with all the weapons I'd need for squads like vets.

They do look very nice. Much more so than the Cadians/Catachans. Do they have a Catachan analogue? I've always loved the Catachan feel/art etc, but the models (apart from the newer command squad which I actually really like) are genuinely awful.

 Blacksails wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
I haven't for some time.

Funny enough, the models I do buy are a tad more expensive per 10 guys than what I would get buying from GW. However, the models I do buy are completely customizable, have the exact bits/weapons I want in the exact quantity I want, are of a much higher sculpt/detail quality, and come from a small team of people who engage with the community.

What models are these?

Vic Minis.

Tannenberg specifically. My choices from GW are either the limited pose and weapon selection of the equally priced metal Mordians, or go for the plastic Cadians, that don't look half as good and don't come with all the weapons I'd need for squads like vets.

Victoria Lamb's minis are boutique models - and are actually worth the price. (Limited runs, more expensive material, and lots of attention to detail.)
And they are still cheaper than the assault marines from GW.... (10 for $50US for most of her units.)

The Auld Grump - though the urge to name all of the World Devils 'Bruce' is understandable....

 ImAGeek wrote:

They do look very nice. Much more so than the Cadians/Catachans. Do they have a Catachan analogue? I've always loved the Catachan feel/art etc, but the models (apart from the newer command squad which I actually really like) are genuinely awful.

You can mix and match torso, arms, legs, heads, and gear as you see fit, but Vic offers a few pre-done regiments using those bits.

There's one that look Catachan-esque;

Van Diemans World Devils

And...

Bits like this to make a custom bare armed/'Nam style Guard.

The important question you didn't ask though, was if there was a kilted option, which the answer would have to be...

O course!

With bagpipes too.

And there'll be a Space Matilda tank coming out soon.


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 TheAuldGrump wrote:
Victoria Lamb's minis are boutique models - and are actually worth the price. (Limited runs, more expensive material, and lots of attention to detail.)
And they are still cheaper than the assault marines from GW.... (10 for $50US for most of her units.)

Oh of course. Vic's stuff is boutique for sure, but so worth it. Very crisp casting and surprisingly easy to assemble despite being fine resin.

Well if I ever do guard (or Imperial Militia for 30k) I know where I'm going! Love the bagpipes in the kilted guard set. And those heads with the re breathers are really cool.

The only things I buy anymore from GW are codices and paint. And even then, I'm looking for PDFs online or alternative paints.

Models I no longer buy from GW. Their prices are just too absurd for me anymore. Besides, I'm finding alternative minis that I like better.

Lately I've been buying a ton of models from Wargames Factory and Dreamforge Games for my Guard army. I'm going to start purchasing the Black Ops minis from Anvil Industry for some Space Marines. And I'm looking for some IG and SM tank alternatives elsewhere.

Yep. I sure am

I've got a fairly sizeable Chaos Daemons/Daemons of Chaos army that I haven't actually constructed because every time I get back into the gaming side, the prices have gone up by another three thousand percent.

I do tend to substitute other models in place of super-expensive or super-rare GW miniatures. I've got Heralds of Nurgle and Khorne from (IIRC) Kings of War; I've got Mantic ghouls to use as the best-looking Nurgle plague zombies that I've ever seen. I've also got a box of twenty soldiers, I believe they're Corporation Marines from some games system or other, that I was going to use as Nurgle Cultists (traitor Guard).

I'm really gonna have to dig all this stuff out, if I put it all together I'll have enough models to conquer the Imperium.

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Not buying currently, mostly as I don't currently play 40k (mostly because no one here plays it not for any other reason, so never bothered to update the codexes) and waiting for them to decide what they are going to do with warhammer fantasy.

The break is doing wonders for my other games

There Are still People around with such low income they Cant afford gw Minis?
Spend your Time gettin a better job rather than whining in the Internet.
Sorry but so Done with mimimi i have no Money... Gw should give away Minis for free mimimi

Stopped buying GW three years ago and more.

Being able to afford something is not the same thing as getting my money's worth from that thing.

GW is not worth the money.

The Auld Grump

 winterwind85 wrote:
There Are still People around with such low income they Cant afford gw Minis?
Spend your Time gettin a better job rather than whining in the Internet.
Sorry but so Done with mimimi i have no Money... Gw should give away Minis for free mimimi

This is a joke, right?

I think my entire GW spending in 2015 so far has been a Tyrannocyte at 30% off.

 winterwind85 wrote:
There Are still People around with such low income they Cant afford gw Minis?
Spend your Time gettin a better job rather than whining in the Internet.
Sorry but so Done with mimimi i have no Money... Gw should give away Minis for free mimimi

Expensive=/=value.

I don't buy GW models anymore, either. I don't even buy the printed codexes anymore, I buy the cheaper (but not by much) electronic ones for the armies I actually play. I do still buy from Forgeworld, as I believe in the work they're doing and the quality they're producing.

Havent bought a single model from GW directly so far. There's ebay and then there are some other ways and methods. Hell, with that price increase I think GW is pretty much playing into the hands of any recaster out there because your saving margin just jumped a whole lot.

I do and don't really have a problem with the prices, they're worth it in most (not all) cases, and there is really no competition when it comes to sci-fi hard plastic with designs and sculpts as great as theirs. Companies that design similar or better models tend to make resin models that are as expensive or more expensive than GW (Mierce for example), and the cheaper ones (Mantic) don't hold a candle to GW when it comes to design, sculpting and technology. GWs business strategy does frequently infuriate me, but I probably won't ever stop buying their models.

Oh and an Assault Squad box is £25, £50 is for two boxes, and would've cost you £40 up until now.

Haven't ebought anything since last Christmas, when I used some gift money to grab a plastic Hive Tyrant. The prices have just gotten way too far out of hand to continue playing.

While I'll happily admit the games I play now average higher per model prices than GW charges (10 Infinity or Malifaux models exceeeds $100au, a box of 12 Gaunts or 10 Skeletons is $48au), the quantity of needed models is what pushes the prices outside of what I'm comfortable with.

I'll gladly pay $150au for a Malifaux crew with a lot of options. I'll not pay $250au for a block of 50 skeletons (5 boxes), which makes up 1/3 of just the core of an Undead army.

The arguments that people want GW models for free or that we're just whiny people who need a better job are, quite simply, stupid. It's not hard to see where the lack of value for money is in GW games.

That said, I still adore the background and I really do like their current models. If they ever put together a 40k of WHFB ruleset that lets me use what I currently have, is actually a quality, balanced ruleset and bring the prices/model counts to sane levels, I'll happily get back into their games.

I went all of 2014 and this far into 2015 only buying GW models from here or Ebay and selling them locally/here

hate GW

i still buy GW models...
their sculpts get better every year, in my opinion...

of course, i also collect Infinity, PP, and a variety of others...
as long as the sculpt looks like something i would enjoy painting, i buy it...
GW definitely falls into that category, for me...
i think the new Assault Squad looks awesome, and i can't wait to crack open a box...

cheers
jah

GW still has some kits that I really like but that being said I'm glad that I'm not starting out. With their current prices I've been able to hold off starting Ad Mech and I'm now making it a point to paint all the models I have. I've also started to look at 2nd hand models as well. I'll still pick up the occasional kit but there's no longer an 'impulse buy'.

I'll still buy the odd box or blister every month or two if I see something worth painting but its only a few bucks out of my hobby budget compared to everything else I buy.

Hell yeah. Not all of us are flipping burgers in life or are bogged down with children and 150 bills to pay each month. Circumstances vary.

I buy what I feel is worth the money, and get plenty of enjoyment out of the kits. Lots of stuff these days with the dual builds offered, many bits left over for bashing and whatnot.

In my opinion, not much comes close to GW's quality and level of detail. I'm willing to pay for all the customization, detail, and amount of loot you get in certain kits. Love GW's stuff, getting more this weekend, can't wait.

Very rarely sorry winterwind85 i only have an engineering job so i can not afford those highly acclaimed luxury items.

So i go for the mediocre Valkir assault squad or heavy squad