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Thank god I just found a buyer for my Tau army, otherwise I would have probably ended up divorced after buying 3 of each of all the new Tau stuff coming out.

Nilok wrote:If they can't get a invulnerable save from support systems (unlikely), use a Skyshield Landing Pad and use it as your personal firing platform.

Thus denying any reason to use the Blastcannon, as you want to be mobile with that one.

Without the details of equipment like marker lights, suit systems etc in the new Codex - difficult to assess how broken this will be

The Riptide and the like might all be G creatures with all those massive advantages. Or they might not................ Given the level of power that the recent Tau FW model represented however - it may be pretty horrific - Eldar style.

Didn't someone say there was going to be a vehicle as well as the (IMO) mostly horrible looking suits.

 Vector Strike wrote:

Nilok wrote:If they can't get a invulnerable save from support systems (unlikely), use a Skyshield Landing Pad and use it as your personal firing platform.

Thus denying any reason to use the Blastcannon, as you want to be mobile with that one.

You wouldn't use the Blastcannon with this tactic, just as you wouldn't use a Punisher LR as a back field artillery.

Again, they have a shield generator in the picture mounted on the left missile pod, with a different support system on the other side. I will be very suprised if it doesn't have access to the shield generator.

I expect a a lot of things to be more expensive for it.

 Gamgee wrote:
I expect a a lot of things to be more expensive for it.

Why would it given the Eldar example - unless they are going for a Orks/Blood Angels style Codex? (ie crap)

 Gamgee wrote:
I expect a a lot of things to be more expensive for it.

Possibly, but we shall see. Tau have always been synergistic and their power often comes from other units and their interactions together (Aun'va + O'vesa, can't kill me now). I'm expecting that to stay the same.

And for you edited statement, if Ethereals stay exactly the same, these will be very stupid with Storm of Fire.

Unless the support systems cost a crazy amount more for everything else, I highly doubt the upgrades for the Stormsurge are going to be super expensive.

It looks like it purchases systems from the same wargear list as everyone else.

In regard to markerlights: the new markerlight rules are not in yet, so the theory regarding shooting twice is still theory only.

In regard to Stormsurge: you can give it a 5+ cover save by putting a fire warrior or kroot unit in front of it, which also shields it from something that wants to lock the Stormsurge in close combat.
If that even is against it's will by the way, it's still a gargantuam creature that can crush if it wants to.

This week's prices are up, including our "little" stubby armed friend:

http://natfka.blogspot.pt/2015/09/tau-and-space-marines-this-weeks-full.html

I will be buying myself that "Legends of Dark Millenium: Sons of Corax" book!

Looks like that makes the supposed Raven Guard v. Tau campaign book/box a bit more plausible now.

I don't think we get a box.
I think we get these 2 books (Sons of Corax and Shas'O).

ORicK wrote:
I don't think we get a box.
I think we get these 2 books (Sons of Corax and Shas'O).

I understand that.

I'm saying that the existence of these two books, now, is what lends credence to the rumors of the box. With Sanctus Reach/Stormclaw and Leviathan/Deathstorm, they came shortly after/around the timeframe of one of the two books being updated.

Wait, another campaign double with a campaign box in the middle?

Uhh! Why GW! Why must you tempt me so.



Also nice to see that the Stern/Vanguard haven't gone up in price.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wait, another campaign double with a campaign box in the middle?

Uhh! Why GW! Why must you tempt me so.

Bear in mind that's a rumor. Supposedly it's the Nimbosa Annexation.

Also nice to see that the Stern/Vanguard haven't gone up in price.

Indeed...I wish Sternguard had gone down to $40 though.

What i mean is that i would like it to be true, but i do not expect it to be true.

Reaons why i think that:

A box usually gets into the rumour circuit and i would expect more information regarding it by now.
Writers more easily and more frequent talk about future books, which leads to rumours.

And allthough GW boxes usually hold marines and Raven guard are marines, i just do not expect GW to make cheap Tau models in a campaign box.

But i really hope to be wrong...

 Kanluwen wrote:
Indeed...I wish Sternguard had gone down to $40 though.

Keep dreaming :p

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Wait, another campaign double with a campaign box in the middle?

Uhh! Why GW! Why must you tempt me so.



Also nice to see that the Stern/Vanguard haven't gone up in price.

What a surprise. Still can't believe vanguard vets are cheaper than the new assault squad.

ORicK wrote:
What i mean is that i would like it to be true, but i do not expect it to be true.

Reaons why i think that:

A box usually gets into the rumour circuit and i would expect more information regarding it by now.

It's been in the rumor circuit for quite some time. I wish I could remember who it was that initially posted the rumor.

And allthough GW boxes usually hold marines and Raven guard are marines, i just do not expect GW to make cheap Tau models in a campaign box.

Did you actually see what the campaign boxes, "Deathstorm" and "Stormclaw" included?

Aside from a character model, they just repacked existing things. That was it.

i can see something new here

 Atia wrote:
i can see something new here

Is that the rumored Aegis?

 Atia wrote:
i can see something new here

Hrmh.

The scenery definitely is interesting(with an inset plastic "hexed" pattern), and those new Crisis Suits look great.

 Vector Strike wrote:

 warboss wrote:


Are you guessing that or did you actually see the new codex item list? I suspect it's the former and you're only using half of the available info. The shield generator for something the size of a riptide (which is what the description says) doesn't give a flat 4+ but rather a 5+. The forgeworld gargantuan one gives you a variable one depending on what damage is incoming. GW can always up and change stuff with a new codex but nothing points to a flat out 4+ for the stormsurge so far.

The Riptide's Nova Reactor is 5++, not the Shield Generator (which it doesn't possess). No reason to think it'll be 5++ to Stormsurge, as it doesn't possess a Nova Reactor

The nova reactor is the power source, it doesnt give the shield.

The Riptide Shield Generator does. Its literally a shield generator thats been augmented to cover the larger body, which is why its a 5++ instead of a 4++ because its stretched so thin to cover the entire suit. The only mention to the Nova Reactor is drawing excess power to further its potential (nova charge).
Its not unlikely that we can get an invul on the stormsurge. But i would expect it to be a higher cost, like stim packs on a riptide, and not be a 4++.

Yaknow theres something about the Stormsurge that got me thinking. Riptides are a solo unit, but this behemoth is a squadron? Potential for Riptide squads?!? Ohh that'd be epic as hell since it would free up some heavily overused Elite slots!

Finally: a whirlpool and a destroyed pavilion!

A sort of energy shielding instead of a physical barrier would be very tau. It would also reduce weight allowing them to be easily positioned, which would fit better with the tau way of war (mobile, fast, reactive).

Don't people already sell that in mdf?

God that suit is hideous and not in a good way

I think pretty much everyone is going to kitbash the hell out of it lol.

I intend to give it arms, depending on the price of the model i'll either buy a riptide and modify it or buy the normal model and ebay some riptide arms. Rather than the Broadside fistbump rocket treatment im going to do the same thing i did for them: BFG OF ROCKETS!

Basically, i am going to turn it into a larger one of these:

 Vineheart01 wrote:
I think pretty much everyone is going to kitbash the hell out of it lol.

I intend to give it arms, depending on the price of the model i'll either buy a riptide and modify it or buy the normal model and ebay some riptide arms. Rather than the Broadside fistbump rocket treatment im going to do the same thing i did for them: BFG OF ROCKETS!

Basically, i am going to turn it into a larger one of these:

Spoiler:

Agreed, someone will have an after market arms kit or conversion eventually. I own 6000 points of Tau painted up already, I can wait on the Stormsurge.

I don't think I mind the model as a whole but the leg pose looks weird with the torso.