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That is both an ugly design and dumb at the same time.
Speaking from even a remotely semi-realistic sense, that guy without a helmet is going to get his ears blasted off whenever the shotgun fires lol.

Whats the point of the head if the crew isnt covered? Unless theyre just systems support guys and its still got a pilot inside.

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Even then, an armoured hatch overhead would make sense to protect them from shrapnel.

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Yet we have Eldar, Orks and Space Marines using artillery with no protection whatsoever.

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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Even then, an armoured hatch overhead would make sense to protect them from shrapnel.

What shrapnel?

The shoulder mounted weapon is a pulse weapon--meaning it fires energy and not a projectile.
The height of the Stormsurge as well means that it is not really necessary, aside from dealing with flyers or guys on huuuuuuuuuuge buildings/cliffs, to worry about someone shooting down/firing in.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Even then, an armoured hatch overhead would make sense to protect them from shrapnel.

What shrapnel?

The shoulder mounted weapon is a pulse weapon--meaning it fires energy and not a projectile.
The height of the Stormsurge as well means that it is not really necessary, aside from dealing with flyers or guys on huuuuuuuuuuge buildings/cliffs, to worry about someone shooting down/firing in.


From stuff being fired at them.

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So it's an Open-Topped Walker, that's considered a Gargantuan Monstrous Creature... awesome.

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 BrokenRecord wrote:
So it's an Open-Topped Walker, that's considered a Gargantuan Monstrous Creature... awesome.

None of the Tau suits are vehicles, so why should the Stormsurge be any different?

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We're talking about Tau, not Necrons.
I know, but the two tau, with a crisis head behind, reminded me of the old BSG three pilot system.


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Open cockpit eh?




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Nice to see this thing can be taken out by one jump pack guy with a pistol.

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What I see now is that ten inch D is not the gun. Instead it is the fire warriors slinging poo because the enemy is so close heh. Neat model but again not seeing it perform well on the table in my mind. Need more codex stuff hehe

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nice to see this thing can be taken out by one jump pack guy with a pistol.


lol I can see one space marine flying up, shooting one round into the cockpit and flying away only to have the whole suit explode bad action movie style the moment he lands behind it.

Also do the rules indicate this is an open top vehicle or are we just assuming because of the model design? I don't think I've seen any scans that have it listed as such ,but I've been inspecting the pictures more than the text.

 
   
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 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nice to see this thing can be taken out by one jump pack guy with a pistol.


lol I can see one space marine flying up, shooting one round into the cockpit and flying away only to have the whole suit explode bad action movie style the moment he lands behind it.

Also do the rules indicate this is an open top vehicle or are we just assuming because of the model design? I don't think I've seen any scans that have it listed as such ,but I've been inspecting the pictures more than the text.


Have you ever heard of an open-topped GMC?

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It's a gargantuan creature. By default, it CANNOT be an open topped vehicle.
   
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Looks like two guys in an open topped walker to me, but I don't write the rules!

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Looks like two guys in an open topped walker to me, but I don't write the rules!
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The Tau Empire, capable of designing a 50 foot tall bipedal robot with a cannon the size of a modern day tank and a missile armament that would make even an MLRS blush... unable to put a roof on it.

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...and then it rained and turned the cockpit into a bath... thus started the new Tau doctrine of cooperative bathing.

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chaos0xomega wrote:
The Tau Empire, capable of designing a 50 foot tall bipedal robot with a cannon the size of a modern day tank and a missile armament that would make even an MLRS blush... unable to put a roof on it.


You think that's bad? Have a look at the necron flyers.
Here we have an advanced attack craft that's older than most races in the galaxy, comes with a potent electricity weapon, a teleportation device and an engine that drives enemy soldiers into madness due its unbearable roar, and is capable of incredible speeds.
Doesn't come with a cover over the cockpit though; that's beyond the necrons ability.

Or just their skimmers in general. What, did the necrons not discover radar tech, so they have to see everything themselves?

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SpyderG6 wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nice to see this thing can be taken out by one jump pack guy with a pistol.


lol I can see one space marine flying up, shooting one round into the cockpit and flying away only to have the whole suit explode bad action movie style the moment he lands behind it.

Also do the rules indicate this is an open top vehicle or are we just assuming because of the model design? I don't think I've seen any scans that have it listed as such ,but I've been inspecting the pictures more than the text.


It's a gargantuan creature so there is no such thing as "open topped" for it. That flaw is apparently reflected in the gakky 3+ save it gets that is very out of character for big tau bots (but so is being open topped).
   
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They're self-repairing undead robots. Why do they need a cover?
   
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 warboss wrote:
SpyderG6 wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
Nice to see this thing can be taken out by one jump pack guy with a pistol.


lol I can see one space marine flying up, shooting one round into the cockpit and flying away only to have the whole suit explode bad action movie style the moment he lands behind it.

Also do the rules indicate this is an open top vehicle or are we just assuming because of the model design? I don't think I've seen any scans that have it listed as such ,but I've been inspecting the pictures more than the text.


It's a gargantuan creature so there is no such thing as "open topped" for it. That flaw is apparently reflected in the gakky 3+ save it gets that is very out of character for big tau bots (but so is being open topped).


That's a terrible reason for a 3+ save.
Hey, most space marine leaders don't wear a helmet, shouldn't they have 4+ saves then?

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chaos0xomega wrote:
The Tau Empire, capable of designing a 50 foot tall bipedal robot with a cannon the size of a modern day tank and a missile armament that would make even an MLRS blush... unable to put a roof on it.


That does also explain the BS3. Instead of using the advanced electronics to flawlessly aim the giant guns, the fire warriors in the cockpit just stand up and eye ball the shot.


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 warboss wrote:

It's a gargantuan creature so there is no such thing as "open topped" for it. That flaw is apparently reflected in the gakky 3+ save it gets that is very out of character for big tau bots (but so is being open topped).


That's a terrible reason for a 3+ save.
Hey, most space marine leaders don't wear a helmet, shouldn't they have 4+ saves then?


I agree that it's a terrible reason but it's also the only way to reflect it in the stats. It's flat out stupid that they chose to make it faux open topped in the first place.

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vitae_drinker wrote:
They're self-repairing undead robots. Why do they need a cover?


Missile, meet exposed pilot.
A solid, thick piece of regenerating metal is still more durable than a regenerating robot.
Especially one that's controlling a sensitive piece of military hard ware.
It would be like if the US army started to expose their engines in their tanks, with a huge target painted over it.

I get that the command barges and the stalker is open topped, because its some silly honor thing, but what about the anni barges? The arks?
Why not have it connected to an advanced canoptek control system instead?

But I digress; silly "high-tech" GW designs are silly, for both Tau and Necrons.

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No, not really. It's more like they built a tank controlled by a drone that can fix it's radio mast if it gets damaged, and then had an exposed radio mast. Maybe, you know, so it can get a signal.


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Except destroying the radio mast would not blow up the whole tank. Shooting the engine / right into the vehicle would.

Necron flyers do not have quantum shielding.
Also, I would think that the an advanced race such as the necrons would find a better way to receive a signal that making a hole in their aircraft.

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I just hate the overall design and have no idea why GW puts everything Tau has into battlesuits. This thing is just straight ugly for me and I miss a new vehicle for the Tau. But I guess they base this on what people purchase and huge stompy robots are what most players are into. I am still thinking on how I can transform this into a vehicle.

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I said most, thanks. Maybe they don't have a better means to maintain signal integrity? How do you know? Maybe it's to maintain proper validation of targets by visual contact? Maybe there's an energy shield over the cockpit? Wouldn't that make more sense than a big chunk of metal?
   
 
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