New Tau Release: Stormsurge, Ghostkeel, Coldstar, Breachers, Crisis, Tidewall!. Codex coming!

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**JohnHwangDD**

TheNewBlood wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:
Another 3-sprue kit for $100+? Uncool.

Those aren't exactly small sprues, and it looks like a substantial instruction manual is required for assembly. I'm not defending the price tag, just saying that you should expect to pay about as much as an Imperial Knight for this kind of model.

Those 3 sprues are the same size as the sprues as a Wraithknight, and just as ludicrously overpriced as a Wraithknight. That is NOT a good thing.

A kit that size should be priced more like a Valkyrie, not like a Baneblade.

**Zelnik**

The only thing that concerns me about the Ghostkeel is it's position in the force org. Another elite makes our most crowded slot even more crowded.

**Arcanii**

Did I miss something?? I thought the Stormsurge was going to be a bit over $100, the website lists it at almost $300???

**krazynadechukr**

Arcanii wrote:
Did I miss something?? I thought the Stormsurge was going to be a bit over $100, the website lists it at almost $300???

in US dollars it will be $130-$150

**Gamgee**

It hasn't officially been listed in any of the other GW country stores. So its likely an error. Still if that's the correct price for you I'm sorry for your pain.

**casvalremdeikun**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
TheNewBlood wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:
Another 3-sprue kit for $100+? Uncool.

Those aren't exactly small sprues, and it looks like a substantial instruction manual is required for assembly. I'm not defending the price tag, just saying that you should expect to pay about as much as an Imperial Knight for this kind of model.

Those 3 sprues are the same size as the sprues as a Wraithknight, and just as ludicrously overpriced as a Wraithknight. That is NOT a good thing.

A kit that size should be priced more like a Valkyrie, not like a Baneblade.

Why do you think the Wraithknight is criminally underpriced points-wise? Because it is overpriced model-wise. So GW makes a killing by screwing the game's balance up.

**TheNewBlood**

Zelnik wrote:The only thing that concerns me about the Ghostkeel is it's position in the force org. Another elite makes our most crowded slot even more crowded.

Keep in mind that the rumors about the Ghostkeel rules are about as reliable as bathroom graffiti at GW headquarters. Fro all we know the Ghostkeel is another gargantuan creature.

casvalremdeikun wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:
TheNewBlood wrote:
JohnHwangDD wrote:
Another 3-sprue kit for $100+? Uncool.

Those aren't exactly small sprues, and it looks like a substantial instruction manual is required for assembly. I'm not defending the price tag, just saying that you should expect to pay about as much as an Imperial Knight for this kind of model.

Those 3 sprues are the same size as the sprues as a Wraithknight, and just as ludicrously overpriced as a Wraithknight. That is NOT a good thing.

A kit that size should be priced more like a Valkyrie, not like a Baneblade.
Why do you think the Wraithknight is criminally underpriced points-wise? Because it is overpriced model-wise. So GW makes a killing by screwing the game's balance up.

Exalted for truth.

**JohnHwangDD**

Zelnik wrote:
The only thing that concerns me about the Ghostkeel is it's position in the force org. Another elite makes our most crowded slot even more crowded.

Don't worry, the Tau Formation will take care of that particular problem.

**Nocturus**

With both the Ghostkeel and the Storm Surge coming in squads of 3, it makes me wonder if we are going to see Riptides in Squads of 3 as well this edition.

**Kahnawake**

Fire warriors in sets of 10, humph. I at least hope we get 3 drones then with more options than a gun drone! That would be nice.

Those formations are interesting. I didn't play 40k when those were around.

Cheers
Kahnawake

**Gamgee**

No doubt. I called that months back. It wouldn't be a shocker.

**MajorWesJanson**

Kahnawake wrote:
Fire warriors in sets of 10, humph. I at least hope we get 3 drones then with more options than a gun drone! That would be nice.

Those formations are interesting. I didn't play 40k when those were around.

Cheers
Kahnawake

I could see 3 drones- one gun, one marker, one shield

**vitae_drinker**

I'm hoping FW finally get heavy weapon drones, or heavy weapon upgrades to squad members. Or both! Ion Rifles and Rail Rifles for squad upgrades, and Plasma and Missile drones.

**Kahnawake**

BTW guys, did you notice Broadsides are sold out on the site?

Does that mean GW wants to force us to purchase the entire Firebase support cadre instead of separate models and moved their stock of broadsides there? If yes that would be a dick move...

cheers
Kahnawake

**vitae_drinker**

Probably so. Plus, they're probably reboxing them, too.

**Kahnawake**

Yeah, I forgot about the new decals and stuff.

cheers
Kahnawake

**Tinkrr**

Kahnawake wrote:
BTW guys, did you notice Broadsides are sold out on the site? Does that mean GW wants to force us to purchase the entire Firebase support cadre instead of separate models and moved their stock of broadsides there? If yes that would be a dick move...

cheers
Kahnawake

Hu, weird. When I look at the site right now it seems like the Broadsides are still in stock, but the Pathfinder teams are sold out on the main site.

**ImAGeek**

Tinkrr wrote:
Kahnawake wrote:
BTW guys, did you notice Broadsides are sold out on the site? Does that mean GW wants to force us to purchase the entire Firebase support cadre instead of separate models and moved their stock of broadsides there? If yes that would be a dick move...

cheers
Kahnawake

Hu, weird. When I look at the site right now it seems like the Broadsides are still in stock, but the Pathfinder teams are sold out on the main site.

Both are in stock over here (UK).

Oh no, they're not. They both say not available when you click on them. Probably just reboxing them.

**Kahnawake**

Yeah I think you guys are right and it's the reboxing. I just hope we won't get huge price raises for new boxes and a new transfer sheet...

cheers
Kahnawake

**ImAGeek**

Kahnawake wrote:
Yeah I think you guys are right and it's the reboxing. I just hope we won't get huge price raises for new boxes and a new transfer sheet...

cheers
Kahnawake

I don't think they will. The Sternguard and Vanguard boxes for preorder this week are reboxed with new bases and they're the same price.

**BrookM**

Piranha is also listed as sold out on the site.

**Orrus**

Both Pathfinders and Broadsides are down as "Sold Out - No Longer Avaialble"

I assume they are re-boxing them and then re-releasing them at the same price, that seems to be the norm when tweaks are made to boxes or bases.

I really hope they aren't playing games to sell new kits or hiking the prices. I just bought an airbrush kit in anticipation of this release, but as ever I'm waiting to see what they do and ready to say 'screw you GW, I'll spend my money elsewhere'.

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Firebase Support Cadre is now the same.

Maybe theres just massive demand at the moment. As far as im aware that has only been an available this morning!

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Devilfish and stealth team too

**BrookM**

Yup, rebox and put the new decals in there as well no doubt.

**Vector Strike**

Zelnik wrote:The only thing that concerns me about the Ghostkeel is it's position in the force org. Another elite makes our most crowded slot even more crowded.

Our most crowded slot is Fast Attack. Elite is the most useful, but nowadays we have... 3 choices.

Formations will take care of FOC problems. The only reason to use a CAD is for FW models (which I have in spades

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Gamgee wrote:So if I understood the rules correctly.

It has.
1. Fusion blast template gun. Otherwise mostly same statline.
2. What looks like either a single twin linked FB or two FB.
3 It has a twin linked flamers which can be upgraded to either twin linked burst cannon or a single fusion gun.

I assume it's left arm with the weird antenna thing is the fusion gun upgraded from the flamethrower.

So it has a max potential of up to four fusion shots if we take all the fusion upgrades for it. One of them being a blast. Or a little less but some twin linked depending on how the rules go.

For around... 125-135 ish depending on cost. It also seems to have a stat line of a little bit weaker Riptide.

Yea I can't see how this thing won't completely replace XV8 fusion teams. Finally freeing them up for other tasks. Woo hoo.

Now let's hope the info and my deductions hold up.

Judging by the 'leaked' rules, it'll have only 2 weapons - a blast fusion (changeable for a ion weapon) and a TL flamer (changeable for a TL fusion). The thing in it's left hand could be the stealth multiplicator

**Jackal**

Is it just me, or do you save nothing non the suit formation this time?
I'm sure I brought it last time around because the riptide was essentially free?

**angelofvengeance**

It feels like the Tau's new approach to things is "Go big, or go extinct" lol.

**Kahnawake**

Jackal wrote:
Is it just me, or do you save nothing non the suit formation this time?
I'm sure I brought it last time around because the riptide was essentially free?

GW bundles are recently only slightly cheaper than buying all the minis separately. And if you buy from retail sellers or on-line, you spare a lot of money buying separately... So yeah I kinda see no point in buying the whole thing on GW's site.

Cheers
Kahnawake

**Merellin**

No, GW Bundles is not cheeper at all, They always offer a saving of zero moneys. The boxes can save you money (Like the Tyranid Swarm box saves you like almost 50% of the price of buying it all seperately..) But the bundles only saves you clicks.

**Zelnik**

So far my opinion of the stormsurge is "I may pick one up one day for the sake of completion but I will never field one".

The ghostkeel though? If the rumors are true I will be all over that SOB.

**Medium of Death**

I think the suit looks a lot better when you view it in the 3D view on GW's site.

Can't get over it having an open topped crew compartment though.

angelofvengeance wrote:
It feels like the Tau's new approach to things is "Go big, or go extinct" lol.

I would assume this is because they have a massive Hive Fleet on on side of their Empire and the Imperium on the other.