Avoiding recasts on EBAY?

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**Azreal13**

Peregrine wrote:
Azreal13 wrote:
You have your experiences, I have mine, I'm willing to bet, given how vehemently I've seen you argue against the purchase of recasts that I've got more of them.

Yes, I concede that you've bought more recasts than I have and have managed to find reliable sources. That doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of terrible recasts out there, and someone who doesn't have your extensive experience with recasting is a lot less likely to avoid them.

Ironically, the way GW have been pursuing a lot of the more visible recast sites, it's getting more and more likely people buying them will be getting them from one of the better sources.

I'd be happy to do extra clean up work to offset the price difference, as right now I got more time than money, but I've not once encountered a kit where I felt it needed any more effort than the original, other than maybe the odd extra pin or similar.

**Formosa**

Azreal13 wrote:
DalinCriid wrote:
Dude, in the end of the day it's just a game. I don't care if you are with resin china recsts or originals, I was just pointing out some risks you may run into and from what I read a lot of people had the issues I listetend above: misplaced models, missing parts, damaged stuff. Like it or not, you can just start reading the reditt recast threads and see for yourself that there are some issues. Im too tired to post images of models and etc. I just wanted to say that just because you had luck it does not mean that recsts are 100% worthy.

You can't give the reedit threads any value, unless there's plenty of threads along the lines of "I bought some recasts, the quality was fine, nothing bad happened."

My point was your research is flawed because people with negative things to say will be much more likely to go on the Internet and complain about it, skewing your view of the overall quality.

Anyway, I think we derail the thread a lot. I plan to purchache a recast models as an experiment and see how it goes. But I will do it as long as I have some valid info and I wont run into the first ebayer I see.

If you're buying them from eBay, you're doing it wrong. But yes, experience is the most valuable research you can do.

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Formosa wrote:
Haha see what I said in my post about the moral debates, morals have nothing to do with just getting or giving information about the pros and cons, only the facts matter and the fact is the end product is virtually (or literally now the dictionary meaning has changed... Thanks stupid people for that) the same.

But with fw you know you have the service, replacements in a timely manner and 0% chance of being scammed, that's a fact.

Recasts are virtually the same, but you cannot guarantee... A guarantee, they may not replace the parts, they may send junk, they may send nothing and run off with your hard earned dollar bucks, also facts.

So sod all the morals and nonsense some people are spouting, just look at the facts and make a decision, and if after that you then find it morally wrong, that's called an informed decision.

To quote me, a few days ago, in this thread..

There's a moral argument to be had about recasts, but there really isn't a practical one.

You say research and experience is best, then you say it's a morality issue, that's double standards.

Morality is something you apply after you have all the pertinent information, not before, morality either right or wrong can get in the way of getting that information.

If you believe recasts are wrong and you have all the information, sweet, your simply doing what I suggested you do, if your pre judging it and anything else before you have the relevant info, that's not how it should be done.

**Azreal13**

No, what I'm saying is whether to buy or not is a morality issue.

You don't need to know if the recasts are any good before buying them surely?

If you have decided that you want to buy, you've made the moral decision, and listing a whole load of downsides you've discovered by looking at what other people have written on the net is poor second place to actually ordering them and deciding for yourself.

**Relapse**

It's fairly a stab in the back buying from someone you know or suspect of being a recasters.
People complain on one hand about jobs disappearing overseas, yet on the other hand have no problem buying rip off product from the same place the jobs are being shipped to.

**Formosa**

Azreal13 wrote:
No, what I'm saying is whether to buy or not is a morality issue.

You don't need to know if the recasts are any good before buying them surely?

If you have decided that you want to buy, you've made the moral decision, and listing a whole load of downsides you've discovered by looking at what other people have written on the net is poor second place to actually ordering them and deciding for yourself.

I already stated that in a previous response, people who buy recasts were always gonna buy them, and yes using other people experiences is a good indicator of gathering the relevant information.

For example one of the fence sitters may be tempted, do his research and see others have had issues, then decide against the recast and buy direct instead.

**kb_lock**

Recasts generally aren't worth the effort. Recasts of GW plastic are easily the biggest waste of time you could possibly embark upon. Resin is such a pain in the angus to deal with.

The only reason I could see recasts being useful would be to replace busted parts or otherwise getting stuff you couldn't actually get any other way.

**morganfreeman**

Peregrine wrote:
Azreal13 wrote:
You have your experiences, I have mine, I'm willing to bet, given how vehemently I've seen you argue against the purchase of recasts that I've got more of them.

Yes, I concede that you've bought more recasts than I have and have managed to find reliable sources. That doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of terrible recasts out there, and someone who doesn't have your extensive experience with recasting is a lot less likely to avoid them.

I've bought a few re-casts with no real research done beyond looking at the Seller's feedback.

I've not had any problems with them. All of them have been free of bubbles and breaks, with relatively little cleaning required. I've even them include random figures for free a couple of times.

**techsoldaten**

I have seen good recasts, I have seen horrible recasts.

Horrible means, after a few months, plastic starts to sag, paint doesn't seem to want to adhere properly, holes appearing in the wrong places needed extensive greenstuff, the model looked warped, etc.

IMHO, the question is not the price, it's the certainty that something you put your time into is going to stay looking good for a long time to come. There's no benefit to saving 50% if the model is 100% useless after a while.