Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion

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**Koppo**

SirDonlad wrote:
My Mechanicum LRB got 'dispatched' today! Huzzah!
Was too poor to afford express delivery so no saturday surprise for me.

To anyone who does; please let me know if the land raider achillies is in it?

Bugger, mine is still "pending" :(

**Grarg**

>Point Changes in the Mechanicum Red Book
>- Castellax are 20 poinst more expensive
>- Vorax are 10 points less expensive.
>- Ursarax are 20 points more.
>- Thanatar +10 points.
>- Myrmidon Destructors +15 points.

Rumoured changes in the book.

**Haighus**

Those make sense to me- especially the Myrmidons. I just couldn't see any reason to take most of the Secutor options when the Destructors could do the same things better for less or similar points, except that you may have no Heavy Support slots left. 1 Volkite Culverin is always going to be better than 2 Volkite chargers, yet the Culverin was just 5pts more, and came with Preferred enemy (everything!)...

**Talys**

The heads are so-so, but those shoulder pads are awesome!

**SirDonlad**

Dryaktylus wrote:
SirDonlad wrote:
Now i have my hopes pinned on the enticing entry "the war covenant of the ordo reductor"; desperately hoping for access to other imperium tech that way 'cause i can't see my avenger strike fighter in the list either...

It's the fourth entry in Fast Attack if I see it correctly (on the FW page).

Whoops! you're absolutely right.

I'm wondering why the 'arvus lighter' is in the FA slot - it's so pathetic, there must be a twist.

**Wilson**

Grarg wrote:
>Point Changes in the Mechanicum Red Book
>- Castellax are 20 poinst more expensive
>- Vorax are 10 points less expensive.
>- Ursarax are 20 points more.
>- Thanatar +10 points.
>- Myrmidon Destructors +15 points.

Rumoured changes in the book.

What does the giant laser beam do?

**ImAGeek**

From BattleBunnies and the FW Amsterdam open day:
The controversial Tau thing:

Mechanicum Ordinatus:

Another pic of the Mor Deythan:

Solar Auxilia Storm Section with power axes:

Love those axes.

**Ratius**

Im really not sure about that Tau thing. I cant place my finger on it but it might be the bulging chest piece it has.

**whalemusic360**

Any info on alternate Warlord heads or guns? We know the missile pods and transfers are done, but what about other things?

**Bottle**

Love the 30k guard with Power axes! Tempting!

**Tannhauser42**

They're like future firefighter's axes, cool!

Love the painted ordinatus.

**ImAGeek**

The Ordinatus is due in a month or two, and they're working on other weapons too. Book VI is meant to have an early Dark Mechanicum list too, alongside the rules for shattered legions.

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Better Mor Deythan:

Ordinatus:

Blood Angels:

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More transfers:

**Haighus**

Hehe, just noticed the Ordinatus has Volkite sentinels, except rather than whatever puny Volkite weapon they usually have the Ordinatus versions have Volkite culverins

**Dryaktylus**

The Salamanders symbol bottom left looks kinda like the Horned Rat.

Ordinatus is nice.

**Kanluwen**

I want those Mor Dreythan.

**ImAGeek**

From Lord Thorn on B&C:

Sorry, I basically took no photos (couldn't find the :cuss ing SD card this morning, which made me miss the train :angry: )

Anyway, I've got a few things to add to this list :
Doom of Mymeara 2nd edition should be out soonish (in the next couple of months), with an updated and expanded corsair list (new units, but no or few new models planned)
There was also quite a bit of very sweet concept art for Thousand Sons (depthcharge should be happy because tuning forks featured prominently ) , some hairy heads (read possible White Scars and Space Wolves), iconography/transfers for the Legions of Istvaan III, and Invictarius Suzerain stuff. Since the Invictarius are already out and they didn't look exactly like the ones in the sketchbooks, don't read too much in to this. (One of the World Eaters symbols really made me go wow, a kind of a profile hound skull bighting a world, which isn't on the transfer sheet that already exists. I think AO108 took a snapshot of it).
As already mentioned, lots of amusing and eerie concept art for Dark Mechanicum, I think we're in for a treat with those ! Also, the sketches I saw still seemed relatively close to the loyalist counterparts, so there should hopefully be conversion opportunities.
Some talk about a possible online update of IA2, since Space Marines codex came out later
[irony]No-one new anything about any possible plastic heresy, and there is nothing to suggest that it will be out next games day...[/irony] Read that this is pretty much sure. None of the designers seemed concerned about Games Workshop taking over, and seemed to feel that it should complement Forge World's stuff, as a launching ground.
I may have been too direct when I asked, but they didn't seem to be aware of any possible Chaos releases, they seemed to think it was "made up". As I said, I may have been to direct, so don't jump to conclusions.

For the Space Wolves, it seemed like they were starting to plan them, but really just the very beginning stages. They don't know yet what the final Legion symbol will be, so that's a fair example of how early on in the process they are. Mark Bedford's examples were grey armour with black pauldrons, with the Wolf in the Stars (the Great Wolf's) symbol from the decal sheets, but that is only to get an idea. However, they also seemed to be grizzled warriors with jump packs, so JPs might not be limited to Wolf Guard and Blood Claws ?

However, any fears about them being Wolfy McWolfy Wolves can start to be quelled. The idea really seems to be to represent the Emperor's executioners and exterminators, as they were designed to be in the fluff, moving back to disctinctly Space Vikings vibe, rather than silly wolfiness.

The Solar Auxilia with the axes are the only new models, but they are really nice. Of course, I wouldn't have expected much more, since it is only an open day, with bigger events coming up very soon.

**Yaraton**

Thanks for the photos. BA heads design looks lazy and uninspiring.

Seeing the RG special unit I guess FW now is not going to make a special unit for AL - "The Headhunters". So, out of two special units in the book we are not getting any. That sucks...

Whose transfer sheet is the 3rd one in the pictures?

**ImAGeek**

I really like the Blood Angels stuff. And I'm sure they'll do the AL stuff at some point, just because they've done a RG one here doesn't mean they're never going to do the AL ones...

Apparently the Dark Furies and Siege Terminators are close to being done too.

The third transfer sheet is a Solar Auxilia one.

**Mr Morden**

Love the Ordinatus - looks ace....... have to buy the Mechanicum LRB

Opposite for the Tau "thing"

Just hoping to see some Sisters of Silence in due course

**ImAGeek**

Mr Morden wrote:
Love the Ordinatus - looks ace....... have to buy the Mechanicum LRB

Opposite for the Tau "thing"

Just hoping to see some Sisters of Silence in due course

The Sisters will be in the Prospero book. We're gonna get them but it'll be a while still. Next year sometime at the earliest.

**Yaraton**

ImAGeek wrote:
I really like the Blood Angels stuff. And I'm sure they'll do the AL stuff at some point, just because they've done a RG one here doesn't mean they're never going to do the AL ones...

Thanks for the answers, ImAGeek, but AL terminator special unit already could be made from the existing parts and the power armour special unit is an exact copy of Mor Dreythan, so I think FW will follow the easier road.

**ImAGeek**

Yaraton wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
I really like the Blood Angels stuff. And I'm sure they'll do the AL stuff at some point, just because they've done a RG one here doesn't mean they're never going to do the AL ones...

Thanks for the answers, ImAGeek, but AL terminator special unit already could be made from the existing parts and the power armour special unit is an exact copy of Mor Dreythan, so I think FW will follow the easier road.

I doubt it. They'll at least do upgrade kits. No other legions have no kits at all for their units, and lots of them could be made with the standard stuff. And the AL power armour unit isn't a copy of the Mor Deythan, as far as I know they can't use sniper rifles.

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Some info from Arac (Tabletopwelt.de):

Book VI (talk with Andy Hoare)
*White Scars, Dark Angels and Blood Angels are in with rules
*Shattered Legions rules for all Legions (Traitors: Horus send some small groups to hunt the Isstvan survivors)
*There will be more Solar Auxilla, but it was Edgar's project so now Israel is in the process to take over (so new releases aren't imminent)

Talk with Simon Egan
*there will be plastic Heresy from GW, but they'll continue

*Marc Bedford designs some 30k Skitarii upgrades but he must wait for the OK from the management (there's none at the moment) to publish them.

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Via Storm666 from Heresy 30k

Book 6 will also include new rites for all legions. Two examples were:
- Word Bearers: Gal Vorbak as troops
- EC: Noise Marines as troops

Also basic rules for BA, DA and WS will be included - including a rite or two, special equipment and legiones astartes rule. Argel Tal will be in a later book - not book 6.

Also the writers are done. Now the artists are doing the layout and adding some graphics. Should be available in this year.

On display were the SA storm section with power axes (nice models). The rest was known stuff. BA and DA upgrades do look very awesome as does the painted ordinatus - which btw has the craziest rules I've seen so far. You basically lay down a 7" template on his hull- move it 72" in one direction and everything it touches gets a hit. Depending on the tract it varies from a S5 AP2 hit to a SD AP2 hit - of course all with instant death, armorbane, ignore cover and pinning. It is just absolutely insane. Cost a bit over 1.000 points per ordinatus. The second one with a belicosa pattern volcano cannon cost 700 points. Both have the ordinatus shield which gives -3 Strength / on the destroyer table in turn 1, -2 on both in turn 2 and from then on only -1. It is absolutely unkillable and it does a lot of harm. The new Tau suit also was on display as well as on sale - but I didn't get the prize. Rules should be out in a couple of weeks as well as those new decal sheets (also very nice pieces).

All in all it was an nice and small event. There was the awesome Calth board in the center, about seven guys from the design team and the sales area. Everyone was really friendly. But I didn't get anything from the talk with simon about the next primarch :-/

**Lythrandire Biehrellian**

Please for the love of God release mymeara 2.0 already! I am waiting to add backup to my harlequins that aren't outclassed by every other space elf in the universe.

Edit: I have a solid 3000+ point dedicated corsair army, I am just tired of it being crap :/

**BrookM**

OH. WOW. Veletaris with power axes and Solar Auxilia decals? OHMYDAYS!

**ImAGeek**

Lythrandire Biehrellian wrote:Please for the love of God release mymeara 2.0 already! I am waiting to add backup to my harlequins that aren't outclassed by every other space elf in the universe.

Edit: I have a solid 3000+ point dedicated corsair army, I am just tired of it being crap :/

ImAGeek wrote:From Lord Thorn on B&C:

Sorry, I basically took no photos (couldn't find the :cuss ing SD card this morning, which made me miss the train :angry: )

Anyway, I've got a few things to add to this list :
Doom of Mymeara 2nd edition should be out soonish (in the next couple of months), with an updated and expanded corsair list (new units, but no or few new models planned)

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From Garro on Heresy 30k:

FW intend to start their dark mechanicum range and get it on its feet before wholesale porting the 40k AdMech range into the heresy. so its not in book 6 and won't be in prospero. however the mars scism book is loosely planned for book 8 or 9, depending on whether they want to do thramas/signus straight after prospero or not. in which case the mars book makes for a perfect place to introduce a large number of new mechanicum units, specially as the skitarii will consist of its own army list and not be random units joining the taghmata.

talk from the open day is that mark bedford's got some designs for upgrade/conversion kits for the plastic skitarii but is waiting for management to give him the go a head, so don't expect them for a while

Although AlphariusOmegon108 who was there today said:

bull:cuss Mark specifically said today that they will keep the 40k mechanicum completly seperated from 30k, as the 40k admech are COMPLETLY different from 30k admech, the 40k admech doesnt belong in 30k, especially the models.

about the previous statement. So who knows. Although we've seen art of Skitarii in 30k and they were based on the 40k models.

**shade1313**

So much want for the Salamanders transfer sheet.

**Zewrath**

I love those DA helmets! They look fantastic and I think I might have to order some for my IF army.. :/

**Frozen Ocean**

I've said it before, and I'll say it again; I adore that battlesuit.

**Haighus**

ImAGeek wrote:
FW intend to start their dark mechanicum range and get it on its feet before wholesale porting the 40k AdMech range into the heresy. so its not in book 6 and won't be in prospero. however the mars scism book is loosely planned for book 8 or 9, depending on whether they want to do thramas/signus straight after prospero or not. in which case the mars book makes for a perfect place to introduce a large number of new mechanicum units, specially as the skitarii will consist of its own army list and not be random units joining the taghmata.

talk from the open day is that mark bedford's got some designs for upgrade/conversion kits for the plastic skitarii but is waiting for management to give him the go a head, so don't expect them for a while

Although AlphariusOmegon108 who was there today said:

bull:cuss Mark specifically said today that they will keep the 40k mechanicum completly seperated from 30k, as the 40k admech are COMPLETLY different from 30k admech, the 40k admech doesnt belong in 30k, especially the models.
about the previous statement. So who knows. Although we've seen art of Skitarii in 30k and they were based on the 40k models.

**Yaraton**

I've got my AL Dreadnought (old style) with the full set of weapons. All packaging looks like it's done for retail.

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