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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/20 15:35:00
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Well great, that also explains why I couldn't use a credit card instead of Paypal, they save the defaults and hide the option to change them.. :( Automatically Appended Next Post: Just gave them a call, it would appear that the warehouse automatically upgrades shipping on large orders to UPS. I should be getting a T&T number tomorrow, but it's left their building half an hour ago, so here's hoping it arriving before Christmas just yet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/20 20:29:42
Subject: Re:Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Finally finished the rough build, obviously I've not put the shielding on as it needs painting seperate. You can see its about an inch shorter than my Warhound, if the Warhound stood straight.
Nice kit, but needs a lot of pinning due to the weight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/20 20:40:18
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Thanks for sharing!
And oh man, those feet do not look sturdy at all!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/20 20:56:00
Subject: Re:Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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I was debating not pinning to get it built quicker - but looking at yours I agree it needs it! Are you going to base it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/20 20:58:09
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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BrookM wrote:Thanks for sharing!
And oh man, those feet do not look sturdy at all! 
Yup, the toes need brass rods as they are load bearing on a tiny lip. I'm going to base it and re-enforce the central part of the foot where you can't see it. It didn't come with a base :/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/20 20:58:15
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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How are the hip joints? Is it the same crap like on GWs Knights, or can you articulate the joint freely, like Cerastus chassis?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/20 21:02:33
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Looky Likey wrote: BrookM wrote:Thanks for sharing!
And oh man, those feet do not look sturdy at all! 
Yup, the toes need brass rods as they are load bearing on a tiny lip. I'm going to base it and re-enforce the central part of the foot where you can't see it. It didn't come with a base :/
Does it fit onto the same size base as regular Knights, or are those way too small?
edit.
Also, how easily is it to swap out the autocannons for lascannons?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/12/20 21:03:23
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/20 21:03:10
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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CragHack wrote:How are the hip joints? Is it the same crap like on GWs Knights, or can you articulate the joint freely, like Cerastus chassis?
just like the Cerastus, fully articulated ball and hip joint. Automatically Appended Next Post: BrookM wrote: Looky Likey wrote: BrookM wrote:Thanks for sharing!
And oh man, those feet do not look sturdy at all! 
Yup, the toes need brass rods as they are load bearing on a tiny lip. I'm going to base it and re-enforce the central part of the foot where you can't see it. It didn't come with a base :/
Does it fit onto the same size base as regular Knights, or are those way too small?
edit.
Also, how easily is it to swap out the autocannons for lascannons?
it'd fit the feet but it would be a little bit small I think. I'm going with custom cut hardboard. Very easy if you put in a bit of blue tack, magnets would be a pain as it's a deep socket.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/20 23:33:05
Subject: Re:Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Hey, so yeah I just signed up here just because the question has been burning a hole in my stomach for quite some time now lol
Does it have a modeled interior/cockpit like the Cerastus Knights from FW? I really liked those
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 00:03:31
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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Why are you all so excited about this knight ? I don't recall the same excitement for the others knight ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 01:53:54
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Because it looks so much awesome. I guess people were already tired of 4 in a row Cerastus Knights and then this...monstrous thing
I also like its rules. It costs like 3 Demolishers, but should outperform them a bazillion times just in 1 shooting phase
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 04:24:35
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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I still think it's too big.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 05:00:55
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Fixture of Dakka
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If this thing gets 40k rules (and it most certainly will) then some of the knight formations in the Imperial Knights codex will make this thing sick. It could be ballistic skill 6 or 7, with a 3+ invulnerable save. Pair it with a trio of knight Wardens and you will never need to leave the board edge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 06:32:31
Subject: Re:Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Atomschlumpf wrote:Hey, so yeah I just signed up here just because the question has been burning a hole in my stomach for quite some time now lol
Does it have a modeled interior/cockpit like the Cerastus Knights from FW? I really liked those
Yes it does but it doesn't fully fill the interior of the chassis unlike the Cerastus knights where the cockpit fills the interior of the chassis. I think that you are meant to glue down the outer shell and leave open the hatch to see the cockpit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 10:53:05
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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It really is. All the FW Knights are really, but it's even more obvious on this one because it's also very bulky. There was a happy medium between "we don't think this will look good in Adeptus Titanicus, MOAR SIZE!" and the original version that was scaled to the GW plastic Knight.
It just weirds me out that they're making Knights as large as Titans, s'not right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 12:40:00
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Moustache-twirling Princeps
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Yodhrin wrote: It really is. All the FW Knights are really, but it's even more obvious on this one because it's also very bulky. There was a happy medium between "we don't think this will look good in Adeptus Titanicus, MOAR SIZE!" and the original version that was scaled to the GW plastic Knight. It just weirds me out that they're making Knights as large as Titans, s'not right. It is only about as big as the absolute smallest Titan and this is the absolute largest Knight. That kinda makes sense to me, as there would be a cut-off, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 13:52:23
Subject: Re:Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Looky Likey wrote: Atomschlumpf wrote:Hey, so yeah I just signed up here just because the question has been burning a hole in my stomach for quite some time now lol
Does it have a modeled interior/cockpit like the Cerastus Knights from FW? I really liked those
Yes it does but it doesn't fully fill the interior of the chassis unlike the Cerastus knights where the cockpit fills the interior of the chassis. I think that you are meant to glue down the outer shell and leave open the hatch to see the cockpit.
Awesome! Is it the same cockpit as with the Cerastus Knights or did he get a cool one for himself?
As for the size, the Knight is still a little bit smaller than the Warhound if you look closely. And I also heard the Warhounds from FW are a tad downscaled from what they should be in size, to make them easier to produce. Vehicle scale in 40k is all over the place anyway. You'd never have room for the cannon and a loader to operate it in a Leman Russ for example
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 16:36:30
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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The height of the Cerastus knight is justified in size since the vast majority of its height comes from its legs which are necessary for its greater stride and quicker movement. Even if the Porphyrion is justified in its volume to accommodate armor and the generators for weapons it doesn't have to be so tall.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 16:50:22
Subject: Re:Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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Atomschlumpf wrote: Looky Likey wrote: Atomschlumpf wrote:Hey, so yeah I just signed up here just because the question has been burning a hole in my stomach for quite some time now lol
Does it have a modeled interior/cockpit like the Cerastus Knights from FW? I really liked those
Yes it does but it doesn't fully fill the interior of the chassis unlike the Cerastus knights where the cockpit fills the interior of the chassis. I think that you are meant to glue down the outer shell and leave open the hatch to see the cockpit.
Awesome! Is it the same cockpit as with the Cerastus Knights or did he get a cool one for himself?
As for the size, the Knight is still a little bit smaller than the Warhound if you look closely. And I also heard the Warhounds from FW are a tad downscaled from what they should be in size, to make them easier to produce. Vehicle scale in 40k is all over the place anyway. You'd never have room for the cannon and a loader to operate it in a Leman Russ for example
it's the same one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 16:55:48
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like it, but I do think it is a bit too big, about the same height as a Cerastus or slightly shorter (but, of course, much bulkier) may have been better, IMHO.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 17:12:57
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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After getting in touch with FW yesterday I got a T&T number today, my kit will be coming in tomorrow evening, right in time for Christmas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 19:47:47
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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FW's original intent for the Porphyrion was a Knight that was in between a Cerastus chassis and a Paladin in size... they upsized it because of how it looked for their Adeptus Titancus game... I still think there should be an intermediate class of Knight. Visually something in between is needed while something pushing the outer edge of acceptable Knight size is pretty superfluous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 21:40:08
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Fixture of Dakka
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What I'd like to see is a "lite Knight". Something that is smaller than a Paladin, but faster, and potentially coming in squads of 2. 5 structure points, front armor 12, two-shot Icarus Lascannon and a punisher cannon. Give it Scout?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 21:50:20
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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You mean Contemptors and the like? Automatically Appended Next Post: From the FW FB:
For those of you asking just how big the new Acastus Knight Porphyrion is, we thought we would show you with the help of two of his smaller associates... Automatically Appended Next Post: We can also expect a new Christmas jigsaw soon!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 23:24:26
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Fixture of Dakka
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No, bigger than a Contemptor Dreadnought, But still smaller than a Paladin. Something about 4.5 inches tall, only two weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 23:49:10
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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cuda1179 wrote:
No, bigger than a Contemptor Dreadnought, But still smaller than a Paladin. Something about 4.5 inches tall, only two weapons.
I always thought they should adapt this light knights into a modern design
I think a Contemptor would generally be too small for a "Knight"... Dreadknight sized I think would be reasonably smallest size Knight.
That said in the original RT era fluff for Dreadnoughts there were variants that could be conventionally piloted like a sentinel and more advanced versions that could be controlled by Mind-linked interface, similar to what's described for Knights... in addition to the version of the fiction for Dreadnoughts we're used to seeing today. So there is certainly some wiggle room to have Knight households guards using some sub-Knight walkers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/22 02:33:07
Subject: Re:Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Well we'll see. They certainly are fleshing out the Knight households, I think we might see some smaller versions, too. The hobbyists certainly are eager for it, you see Knights everywhere now. The models are cool as hell and the fluff is too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/22 02:52:34
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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'Murica! (again)
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Want one of these so bad. Never owned or used a Knight. But Mastadon first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/22 09:35:03
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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cuda1179 wrote:
No, bigger than a Contemptor Dreadnought, But still smaller than a Paladin. Something about 4.5 inches tall, only two weapons.
The Thanatar class sort of fit those requirements, or a bit smaller still is the Domitar Class? I actually prefer to play the Thanatars as they are high T MCs so last a bit longer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/22 11:33:41
Subject: Forge World News and Rumour Thread : p212 Knight Porphyrion
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Here's hoping for an Acastus Knight Castellan. Seems like a Quake Cannon would fit nicely on in place on one of the arms...
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