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Richmond, VA

Doug Craig - Will this be available from Warlord Games or other distributors of your figures?

Perry Miniatures - It will be available to all of our distributors Doug.

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Wife told me to order it, who am I to argue?

Is there a release date? Evidently I'm blind...

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The Perry site says in a couple of weeks. Also, if you order through them you get a metal wounded officer figure


   
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Norfolk

Well I've caved in and placed an order. Apparently all I needed to become interested in the ACW was a bugger load of excellent 28mm minis at a silly price.

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USA distributor Architects of War http://www.architectsofwar.com/preorderitemamericancivilwarbatteinabox.aspx

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I preordered today from Perry. $167 USD. I almost bought 2.
   
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That's weird that they did shipping included in the price, since it prevents you from taking advantage of the free shipping over 200 pounds that you normally get (which is a huge saving).
   
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decker_cky wrote:
That's weird that they did shipping included in the price, since it prevents you from taking advantage of the free shipping over 200 pounds that you normally get (which is a huge saving).


Couldn't you just order the "shipping not included" version if you wanted to?

I put that version in my cart initially, to see what the shipping would actually be. Think it came to about £26 to Michigan, actual costs.

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The bewildering British obsession with US history continues, with Warlord now offering a massive American Revolution starter box:

http://www.warlordgames.com/pre-order-liberty-or-death-american-war-of-independence-battle-set/?utm_source=Warlord+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=cf0157f272-Warlord_Games_Newsletter_30_October_201510_27_2015&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_b7e928b4ed-cf0157f272-131891926&mc_cid=cf0157f272&mc_eid=a399e6c101

It's $280, with 285 minis and laser cut wooden terrain.
   
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Lancaster PA

Wow.... that's kind of crazy. I prefer 15mm for these sorts of wars, but damn, that is a good deal.


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Yeesh, that's a lot of blue and red paint.

Don't forget about the Continental Army and British starter packs. Each $135 with 165~ miniatures in them.

Well, now the debate - AWI or ACW? I guess it counts against Warlord's pack that you'll need to pick up rules as well, but Black Powder works for both eras.

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 Polonius wrote:
The bewildering British obsession with US history continues...


You always want the one that got away!

That is a fantastic deal though!
   
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Holy hell that's a lot of plastic :O
   
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RVA

Welp already pre-ordered the Perry ACW set. I guess it's time to get the WLG/WGF AWI set too!

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 Polonius wrote:
The bewildering British obsession with US history continues


Well to be fair, AWI is British history too...

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 Polonius wrote:
The bewildering British obsession with US history continues, with Warlord now offering a massive American Revolution starter box:

They probably just think it's a good bit of fun when yanks are shooting each other

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Both the AWI and the ACW are as much a part of British history as they are American.

Incidentally, the Perrys are running an AWI game that will appear in the next Wargames Illustrated.
   
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 Eiríkr wrote:
Both the AWI and the ACW are as much a part of British history as they are American.


Sure, at least for AWI, they are part of British history, but on a list of the most important conflicts in British History, where would the AWI land? Probably not even in the top ten, right? (In no particular order: WWI, WWII, Napoleonic wars, Seven years war, War of the Roses, ECW, 100 years war, Indian Mutiny... and maybe then the AWI?)

For the US, the AWI is probably the most pivotal event, in that it directly lead to both our independence from Britain, and becoming one nation instead of 13. Admittedly, big time historians would probably rate the Civil War as the most critical event in US history, but the Civil War doesn't happen without the AWI).

So, it's not that people can't appreciate it, or that Britain wasn't involved, but it's interesting to see British companies put out products, so close together, that focus on two of the biggest events in American history.

Imagine if two different US companies produced giant box sets for the Spanish Armada and Battle of Trafalgar.
   
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It's very anecdotal but I was at Gettysburg earlier in August of this year, having flown out from the UK to tour the Civil War sites in West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania. Whilst sitting on a wall in the shade*, I overheard an American couple speaking about the number of foreign visitors around them at that time; "Gee, they know our history better than we do ourselves!". Obviously this isn't indicative of every American, or of the average European, but I wonder if there's some weight in it for those whom are at the very least both historically and tabletop leaning. Either that, or we just enjoy pretending that our scroungy kid never broke away from its loving parents' embrace.

* Lord, the heat! I gained a new appreciation of the average soldier fighting in the States. I cannot imagine scrapping around in woolen garments and the midday sun.
   
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 Eiríkr wrote:
It's very anecdotal but I was at Gettysburg earlier in August of this year, having flown out from the UK to tour the Civil War sites in West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania. Whilst sitting on a wall in the shade*, I overheard an American couple speaking about the number of foreign visitors around them at that time; "Gee, they know our history better than we do ourselves!". Obviously this isn't indicative of every American, or of the average European, but I wonder if there's some weight in it for those whom are at the very least both historically and tabletop leaning. Either that, or we just enjoy pretending that our scroungy kid never broke away from its loving parents' embrace.

* Lord, the heat! I gained a new appreciation of the average soldier fighting in the States. I cannot imagine scrapping around in woolen garments and the midday sun.


As the first really industrial war, and the last war fought generally in line of battle, the ACW is a very rich topic for history buffs. It helps that so many of the soldiers, even privates, were literate, and wrote in language that, while flowery and melodramatic, is easy for the modern ear. Many of the battlefields are very well preserved, and the tactics, while incredibly obsolete at the regimental level, are still relevant at the Corps level today.

I'm not surprised that international history buffs find the war fascinating, any more than I'm surprised that napoleonics are popular Stateside. I guess I'm just surprised at the timing.
   
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 Pacific wrote:
There are probably dozens of different historical rulesets that you could use that are fit for purpose, alot of which are either very cheap/free and easily available.


Why not Black Powder? My understanding is that Warlord plans to release a supplement for ACW like Rebellion was for AWI
   
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 Eiríkr wrote:
"Gee, they know our history better than we do ourselves!".
I've had Britishers say the same to me about British history. The truth is, people who actually like to read about history tend to know more about it than those who don't. In the case of your anecdote, you should keep in mind that the type of foreigner who travels to ACW sites probably does know more about the ACW than a good number of the Americans there who are only visiting the site casually. The same goes for any Americans who flew over to Europe this past year to look at Agincourt or Waterloo. Such an American, it is a good bet, knows more than the average Frenchman or Belgian about HYW or Napoleonic Wars.
 Eiríkr wrote:
Both the AWI and the ACW are as much a part of British history as they are American.
Seems quite a stretch regarding the ACW.

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 Brother SRM wrote:
 Polonius wrote:
The bewildering British obsession with US history continues, with Warlord now offering a massive American Revolution starter box:

They probably just think it's a good bit of fun when yanks are shooting each other


Of course, that and there's good money to be made selling plastic crack to rebellious colonists/patriotic Americans (delete as applicable).

In all seriousness, as a result of caving into preordering the Perry ACW set I've actually started studying the war (by studying I mean watching Ken Burn's "The Civil War" on DVD and once they arrive reading Shelby Foote's books on the war) and even though I'm a Brit it's an absolutely fascinating conflict. Not just from a strategic or tactical view but the politics and stories of the individuals involved too. So it's not really a surprise to me that serious history buffs over here (which I would hope most people involved with making historical minis are) find wars like the AWI and ACW interesting.

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 Polonius wrote:
I guess I'm just surprised at the timing.
I think what this demonstrates is there is a lot of market appetite for historical games for folks who have heretofore not been historicals gamers. IME the "old way" (say pre-Flames of War) was to assemble armies from a dozen or more garage-based companies and pick up some homespun saddle-stapled rules from a convention. That is going to be a niche market. But companies like Battlefront and Warlord have shown that better production values can really drive business. One piece of that is the "starter box." I have been agitating for PSC to make a 20mm WW2 starter box for a year or so now. Packaged with the Battlegroup mini rulebook, they could make a killing.


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 Nick Ellingworth wrote:
even though I'm a Brit it's an absolutely fascinating conflict
Heck, even though I'm an American, I am pretty much obsessed with HYW, WotR, and ECW! I feel so lucky that our cultures share not only a common heritage but a common language. I feel like there is so much out there, for example about the 30YW, that is just beyond easy reach thanks to language barriers.

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Huh according to the Perry Facebook page the ACW Battle in a Box is now out.

I guess that preorders will start shipping soon.

I know we've all seen this before but not in such a high resolution as far as I can recall.




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I must ask if anyone knows anything about the simple rules?

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 MrDwhitey wrote:
I must ask if anyone knows anything about the simple rules?


Having painted all 150-odd minis to exceptional quality, and with elaborate basing worthy of a diorama, you arrange them on a table with equally impressive terrain, and decide on the battle you're going to recreate. You then Google who won that particular engagement, shout 'Bang' and 'Arrgh' a few times, shake hands with your opponent and go home....

I'll second the comments above about the ACW being a very fascinating period of history whether you're American or not. I've been doing some reading on it this week for uni and the thing that struck me the most was how closely some of the accounts from ACW soldiers on both sides mirrored/foreshadowed that of the First World War; infantry assaulting into waves of fire, hurriedly digging in trenches sometimes just yards from the enemy, committed to attritional warfare in droves by commanders miles behind the front. Swap 'America' for 'France' and '1864' for '1914' and you'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference in some cases.

The ACW is also interesting as a turning point in warfare as a whole; tactics from the 19th Century with the weaponry heading towards the 20th combine to make it a strange conflict that somehow has all the hallmarks of a 'modern' war without actually being one. I'd definitely suggest diving into the wealth of books/docmentaries ect on the subject if you're at all interested.

Apologies for the slight off-topicness, when I get started on history I'm hard to stop.

If anyone does get this set, please do post up a blog of the process down in P&M or the Historicals forum, it would be an epic undertaking to follow!

 
   
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Norfolk

I'll try to post something about it once I get my box but I am A) very slow and B) forgetful. So take anything I say with a pinch of salt.

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Yup! I got it on order and look forward to making (slow) progress with it over the following weeks. I'll try and remember to make a thread about it. Will likely place around the Maryland Campaign, Antietam.

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This looks really great from very prominent designers. I'll also keep an eye on it.

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