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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 14:54:47
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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In my opinion the new stealth suit looks awesome! Makes me consider buying tao lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 15:20:28
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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The Hammer of Witches
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Dman137 wrote:
And do really well with all of them, even in the current meta
Given your record of honesty, I'm not putting much faith on that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 15:21:24
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Bookwrack wrote:Dman137 wrote:
And do really well with all of them, even in the current meta
Given your record of honesty, I'm not putting much faith on that.
ill let my awards speak for them selves haha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 15:22:02
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I got a sportsmanship award once.
Anyone that knows me will say I'm a dick.
Awards don't mean gak.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 15:32:38
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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kronk wrote:
I got a sportsmanship award once.
Anyone that knows me will say I'm a dick.
Awards don't mean gak.
so my multiple best general awards and best over all awards mean nothing.? Clearly lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 15:35:51
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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The Hammer of Witches
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From you? Of course they don't.
As I recall, you bragged about them, but never showed any proof in the same thread you got caught lying about 'your amazing sportsmanship score,' in whatever tournament that was
Quit while you're ahead, kid.
Sidstyler wrote:If you're suggesting it's my army specifically then you're wrong. I never ran a "cheesebuild" so that's not the issue. The problem is that people have viewed Tau in general as a cheese army, and assume that you're an donkey-cave if you bring them to the table at all. And that's an attitude that will only get worse if GW doesn't make some attempt to reign the bullgak back in and not try to make every codex like Craftworlds.
Which is always pretty funny when you're running an army that was bulit in fourth edition with good, chunky metal models and none of the new stuff, and someone gets their panties in a bunch about you being 'oh, another flavor of the month player.'
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"-Nonsense, the Inquisitor and his retinue are our hounoured guests, of course we should invite them to celebrate Four-armed Emperor-day with us..." Thought for the Day - Never use the powerfist hand to wipe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 15:36:00
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Dman137 wrote: so my multiple best general awards and best over all awards mean nothing.? Clearly lol What you and 8 of your best friends do on the weekend aren't impressive to me, no. I have a "2nd Place in a Baby Beauty Contest" that has yet to get me laid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 15:41:35
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:03:36
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
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Dman137 wrote:so my multiple best general awards and best over all awards mean nothing.? Clearly lol
Can't top my million bazillion award. They mean squat... seriously.
You can't say a codex is bad till it's leaked or released.
Now go back to your place under the bridge you troll
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:09:54
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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The Grumpy Eldar wrote:Dman137 wrote:so my multiple best general awards and best over all awards mean nothing.? Clearly lol
Can't top my million bazillion award. They mean squat... seriously.
You can't say a codex is bad till it's leaked or released.
Now go back to your place under the bridge you troll
so then anyone that has ever won a award means nothing.? Clearly you have never won anything so I guess you have nothing to make yourself feel good about. As for the tau, I have clearly stated that "if the new you it's that have been leaked are any indication of what's to come" the. Yes tau will be crap
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:11:15
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Adolf Hitler was Time's Man of the Year, 1938
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:14:30
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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he won that award every year after, until 1945, he lost do to a technicality
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:17:44
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:23:57
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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The Hammer of Witches
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C'mon dude, holy gak. Super not cool.
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"-Nonsense, the Inquisitor and his retinue are our hounoured guests, of course we should invite them to celebrate Four-armed Emperor-day with us..." Thought for the Day - Never use the powerfist hand to wipe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:31:17
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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How is there honestly any room for discussion on new Tau when there is no codex? Seeing a few new unit leaks leaves little to hypothesize off of, just be patient and wait for the release. No need for any more "the sky is falling" rhetoric that seems so popular these days.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:34:22
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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clamclaw wrote:How is there honestly any room for discussion on new Tau when there is no codex? Seeing a few new unit leaks leaves little to hypothesize off of, just be patient and wait for the release. No need for any more "the sky is falling" rhetoric that seems so popular these days.
Agreed, but it's been posted 4+ times and Dmin7 isn't the type to listen to reasonably reasonable reasons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:40:37
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Dman137 wrote:I have about 6 different army's and play with all of them.
SM
Tau
Eldar
Orks
CSM
IG
Necrons
And do really well with all of them, even in the current meta
And yet somehow, you're always complaining about Eldar not doing well. Funny that we never hear about your Orks/ IG/ CSM winning tournaments; it shouldn't be such a problem if you're the great general that you say you are.
Based on what you've said in the past, I get the impression that you simply bandwagoned onto those armies when they were the current flavor-of-the-month in terms of the meta.
Tactical_Spam wrote: Vryce wrote:Odd you started this thread OP. Considering a little over a week ago you started the thread talking about how awesome the Ghostkeel is.
Tell me, how does it feel to be the living embodiment of contradiction?
Hes secretly Malal
Incorrect. Dman137 is secretly Morgoth!
Dman137 wrote: The Grumpy Eldar wrote:Dman137 wrote:so my multiple best general awards and best over all awards mean nothing.? Clearly lol
Can't top my million bazillion award. They mean squat... seriously.
You can't say a codex is bad till it's leaked or released.
Now go back to your place under the bridge you troll
so then anyone that has ever won a award means nothing.? Clearly you have never won anything so I guess you have nothing to make yourself feel good about. As for the tau, I have clearly stated that "if the new you it's that have been leaked are any indication of what's to come" the. Yes tau will be crap
For all we know, the Riptide got buffed to high heaven and Markerlights got turned to solid cheddar. It's far too early for anyone to start making predictions about the power level of the upcoming Tau codex.
Also, bit of a PSA: if Dman137 says something really offensive again, make sure to quote him in your response. The Mods can remove the original text, but to my knowledge they can't do the same to quoted text. Disclaimer: I am not responsible for the use or abuse of this technique. Use at your own discretion. Please don't get mad at me mods.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 16:44:51
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Fixture of Dakka
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@OP - This is what people said about Space Marines before the codex drop. And Necron. And Skitarii....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 17:03:46
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I wouldnt be suprised if the new stealth suit can use the invisiblity psychic power lolol GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 18:28:56
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sidstyler wrote:
Tinkrr wrote:That's like saying "Hey, we can try to make balanced rules for all of these cool models, although we might not always get it right, so we're not even going to try..."
Bingo. You just described exactly the GW design studio's attitude.
That just shouldn't ever be the case. Especially when they have access to so many great community resources that will happily provide them with data and input, such as the ITC guys.
And I know they tried doing FAQ sticker things in the past and it failed, but that was way back before we had as much technology as we do now. I feel like with digital codices and the majority of people having smart phones, it's not unreasonable to do an FAQ update once every three months or so to try to balance things a little.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 18:47:33
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Oh Dman, evidence that trolls troll
Back on topic... GW needs a shake up. I don't know what it would be. Buy out? Top management replaced? Jervis retiring?
But I really think a panel of 3 top tournament players and 3 top TOs could make a 2 page errata document that after a couple months of playtesting would bring the game into a very close approximation of balance... how does GW not have 2 paid rules design guys with 4 interns/volunteers that playtest constantly to see how rules interact on the table?! And if they do, FIRE THESE GUYS, because they are horrible at their job.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 19:23:01
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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It would be nice to see some consistency between the rule sets, we have 3/4 books in one style 3/4 books in another all in the same release set... But on topic the new Tau book looks good, more on par with the rest of the set pre Necrons (obvs in a competitive environment that means nothing) but there are still gonna be markerlights and Riptides, throw in the Stormsurge and they will have some good shooting across the board, Tau players I wouldn't worry I would guess itll be the current Tau dex +1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 20:51:32
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Tinkrr wrote: Sidstyler wrote:
Tinkrr wrote:That's like saying "Hey, we can try to make balanced rules for all of these cool models, although we might not always get it right, so we're not even going to try..."
Bingo. You just described exactly the GW design studio's attitude.
That just shouldn't ever be the case. Especially when they have access to so many great community resources that will happily provide them with data and input, such as the ITC guys.
And I know they tried doing FAQ sticker things in the past and it failed, but that was way back before we had as much technology as we do now. I feel like with digital codices and the majority of people having smart phones, it's not unreasonable to do an FAQ update once every three months or so to try to balance things a little.
But they don't. If you go back and read the GW-published BatReps, you will notice that they don't even play the game by the rules they publish. They will literally make up rules and permissions to hold a game under. They say that this is how they intend the game to be played, which is why they don't write FAQs any more. If there's a problem? "Fix it yourself amongst your mates" is GW's line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 21:13:08
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Dman137 wrote: kronk wrote:
I got a sportsmanship award once.
Anyone that knows me will say I'm a dick.
Awards don't mean gak.
so my multiple best general awards and best over all awards mean nothing.? Clearly lol
How did you earn them? Tell me you bought them a beer and danced a jig. As according to you that's the only way to get max sportsmanship points.
(no seriously please say this I want it to be true.  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 21:35:37
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Psienesis wrote: Tinkrr wrote: Sidstyler wrote:
Tinkrr wrote:That's like saying "Hey, we can try to make balanced rules for all of these cool models, although we might not always get it right, so we're not even going to try..."
Bingo. You just described exactly the GW design studio's attitude.
That just shouldn't ever be the case. Especially when they have access to so many great community resources that will happily provide them with data and input, such as the ITC guys.
And I know they tried doing FAQ sticker things in the past and it failed, but that was way back before we had as much technology as we do now. I feel like with digital codices and the majority of people having smart phones, it's not unreasonable to do an FAQ update once every three months or so to try to balance things a little.
But they don't. If you go back and read the GW-published BatReps, you will notice that they don't even play the game by the rules they publish. They will literally make up rules and permissions to hold a game under. They say that this is how they intend the game to be played, which is why they don't write FAQs any more. If there's a problem? "Fix it yourself amongst your mates" is GW's line.
That just baffles me to no end, because they can easily have both as an option. I know I bring up MtG a lot around here, but I have to do it again here, as MtG does have very set rules for multiple modes of play, but it constantly acquires new player generated content. There are several formats now which players just came up with, that were popular enough for the company itself to adopt and support. So why on Earth would GW believe that simply if they made standardized rules of play (such as the ITC or others) it would hurt people having the option to play the game outside of those rules? Especially since we have multiple examples where despite strict highly functioning rules being in place people still come up with amazing new ways to play a game outside of those rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 21:41:18
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Tau s are already OP and they will be even better for sure... Please stop crying about your new codex and try to imagine how those poors orks, chaos space marines, dark eldars, tyranids and imperial guards feel since a long time .... Maybe its your turn to play with an ugly codex after all? Join us !
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 21:52:18
Subject: Re:The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
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Tau are not OP. They are on the upper-mid tier, but not OP. They used to be in 6th with shenanigans (and even then it was mostly taudar), but not in 7th. Edit: also, ever hear about our previous codex? Don't talk to me about "your turn to play an ugly codex".
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 21:58:22
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Fixture of Dakka
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Only second place Kronk?
You should see how many First place can get you!
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8th made it so I can no longer sway Tau onto the side of Chaos, but they will eventually turn aside from their idea of the Greater Good to embrace the Greatest of pleasures. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 22:00:37
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Tau probably also get a bad reputation because of the Firebase Cadre, not for their own army, but because it can be taken by other armies that generally lack fire power in order to almost completely nullify that issue. So it's like they're OP as long as they aren't actually playing Tau D:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/15 22:38:03
Subject: The new tau so far are pretty disappointing.
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Executing Exarch
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JinxDragon wrote:I approve of the less then over-powered nature of the leaks we have seen, as Game Workshop needs to work on their 'power creep' problem anyway.
Yeah, GW tried that and released a years worth of stinker dexes before cranking it back to 11 with crons. Guess sales weren't doing so hot. But whatever, its only 20% of their customers that play the game, what do we know.
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