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2015/10/15 14:59:07
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
So I rarely game anymore at my local hobby shop because bans formations and fortifications and I run formation and fortification heavy SM. The other people at the shop play either Cheesetau or Cheesecrons while I am not allowed ro run cheese myself. Is there a way to talk them out of this?
H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
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Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
2015/10/15 15:02:20
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
kronk wrote: Take your business elsewhere? Is there another game store and/or gaming group where you live?
There is another store but I believe they have the same rules
H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
2015/10/15 15:21:20
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
Question: how are Necrons cheesy without formations?
"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"
2015/10/15 15:49:25
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
Just ask the players personally if it is ok for this game to use them. The group as a whole might play a certain way but that doesn't mean that you and your opponent have to play that way.
If that doesn't work you can always try to go for the formations are allowed but no command benefits or other benefits of any detachment or formation are gained. That should take the sting out of the formation discussion.
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2015/10/15 16:03:18
Subject: Re:What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
Find a new gaming group, because if there not letting you have fun then there's no point of being there. This is a prime example of why house rules are dumb, you discourage others from wanting to play only because you need to make up rules in order for you to play yourself
2015/10/15 16:09:31
Subject: Re:What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
They spam Crypteks and 20 man blobs of warriors and have at least 5 d-day arks in the back field
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kronk wrote: Is there a reason formations are banned? Specific ones? Is the Necron player not using formations?
They are "too op"
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H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
2015/10/15 16:12:55
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
I'm glad that house rules like the ones in my gaming group scare away players like Dman. But they should not be written in stone. You should come up with a compromise with individual players.
Ps. it helps if you are being nice to them and not going for maxed out free transports or some other tricky thing on the first game with formations allowed.
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2015/10/15 16:15:12
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
oldzoggy wrote: I'm glad that house rules like the ones in my gaming group scare away players like Dman. But they should not be written in stone. You should come up with a compromise with individual players.
Ps. it helps if you are being nice to them and not going for maxed out free transports or some other tricky thing on the first game with formations allowed.
feth that noise! Take 2 Skyhammers Formations!
Lurn 'em good! Yeehaw!
DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
2015/10/15 16:16:55
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
This is how I play unbound armies in a group that doesn't normally like to play against them. Just don't abuse it and try to be nice. So they trust you not to abuse it, and bring something nice to play against.
And just a heads up eldar, and necrons do become way more op when they are allowed to bring their detachment of formations. So don't expect to win a lot more when you are allowed to field them.
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2015/10/15 16:20:14
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
Yah, I can see if they ban formations for tournaments or campaigns, but how can the ban them from casual gaming? I mean... does the store manager walks around the table and sees if a game is using formations and if it does, does he stops the game and cast you away from the LGS?
At my FLGS we rotate tournament rules, some allow formations, some don't, others allow FW and so on. Usually we the players suggest or organize the tournament/campaigns with support from the manager the games, following up, money collection for prizes and all that kind of stuff runs by ourselves (When not official LGS events)
oldzoggy wrote: I'm glad that house rules like the ones in my gaming group scare away players like Dman. But they should not be written in stone. You should come up with a compromise with individual players.
Ps. it helps if you are being nice to them and not going for maxed out free transports or some other tricky thing on the first game with formations allowed.
After managing to get full Gladius in a 1500 point game, I only took 3 free transports in the one game they let me.
They do come up with reasonable house rules though: Dont spam summoning (this occured after a cities of death game where a chaos player mishap'd and lost 8 squads of bloodletters) and dont run flyers if your opponent isnt (this popped up after I came in where all the other guys have 2-3 flyers and SM flyers look dumb so i didnt buy any)
H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
2015/10/15 16:21:06
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
oldzoggy wrote: This is how I play unbound armies in a group that doesn't normally like to play against them. Just don't abuse it and try to be nice. So they trust you not to abuse it, and bring something nice to play against.
Kidding aside, this is the best approach.
DA:70S+G+M+B++I++Pw40k08+D++A++/fWD-R+T(M)DM+
2015/10/15 16:21:54
Subject: Re:What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
I should make it known, I am the only one who religously uses a CAD, everyone else uses Unbound
H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
2015/10/15 16:24:32
Subject: Re:What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
Dman137 wrote: because you need to make up rules in order for you to play yourself
I also have rules for playing with myself!
What are yours?
No superglue.
"-Nonsense, the Inquisitor and his retinue are our hounoured guests, of course we should invite them to celebrate Four-armed Emperor-day with us..." Thought for the Day - Never use the powerfist hand to wipe.
2015/10/15 16:33:56
Subject: Re:What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
Tactical_Spam wrote: I should make it known, I am the only one who religously uses a CAD, everyone else uses Unbound
Well gak.
Everyone plays Unbound.
You play CAD.
You are not allowed formations.
List of other things I cant do:
Use Forgeworld, because its too good
Run Chapter Master beatstick (CM on bike with Shield Eternal and Powerfist) because hes too good
Run fortifications because they are too good
Proxy
Use SM squadrons (cant run tripple vindicators or Preds) because they are too good
Use more than 1 psyker because they are too good
and the list goes on and on and on and on on...
H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
2015/10/15 16:35:03
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
HoundsofDemos wrote: It sounds like most of the rules are designed to ham string marines
also since when is triple predators to good?
when your enemy spams tanks and riptides, very useful
H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
2015/10/15 16:40:26
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
commander dante wrote: Buy yourself Horus and the LAICL and LACAL books
say your marines are legion ones
stomp your opponents as horus is super strong
No forgeworld, which bans me from running contemptors and them spiffy land raiders
H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
2015/10/15 16:45:03
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
To the OP: find another gaming group. If that doesn't work, try to negotiate with your opponents as to what the both of you are comfortable with bringing. I can totally understand just wanting to play with the standard CAD, but it sounds like some of the players there are using that as a excuse to spread their own brand of cheese and not be called out on it. But with any luck, those players are in the minority and you'll be able to get in games while avoiding them.
deadmeat85 wrote: They be a bunch of d-bags if you ask me. So what are the house rules for the other armies?
Necron players are limited to 1 cryptek vs the usual 3-4 they would run
H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
2015/10/15 16:53:01
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
That's crazy, seeing as it's a hobby shop that (presumably) sells GW stuff, and GW sells a ton of fortifications. Maybe point out to the shopowner how much more money they could make selling fortifications!
All those Tidewalls that he's not selling...
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2015/10/15 16:56:46
Subject: What to do when "house rules" take out certain aspects
Talys wrote: That's crazy, seeing as it's a hobby shop that (presumably) sells GW stuff, and GW sells a ton of fortifications. Maybe point out to the shopowner how much more money they could make selling fortifications!
All those Tidewalls that he's not selling...
They banned fortification dude. Necron players liked to camp their D-day arks behind ADL's in the corner of the board
H.B.M.C.- The end hath come! From now on armies will only consist of Astorath, Land Speeder Storms and Soul Grinders!
War Kitten- Vanden, you just taunted the Dank Lord Ezra. Prepare for seven years of fighting reality...
koooaei- Emperor: I envy your nipplehorns. <Magnus goes red. Permanently>
Neronoxx- If our Dreadnought doesn't have sick scuplted abs, we riot.
Frazzled- I don't generally call anyone by a term other than "sir" "maam" "youn g lady" "young man" or " HEY bag!"
Ruin- It's official, we've ran out of things to talk about on Dakka. Close the site. We're done.
mrhappyface- "They're more what you'd call guidlines than actual rules" - Captain Roboute Barbosa
Steve steveson- To be clear, I'd sell you all out for a bottle of scotch and a mid priced hooker.
bag!"
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