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The book was there on display. FW is awesome. Also Corsairs are Awesome.

What do you want to know?
   
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mercury14 wrote:
What do you want to know?


Everything.

There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. 
   
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 Peregrine wrote:
mercury14 wrote:
What do you want to know?


Everything.


I didn't see everything. Can't post everything. Ask away though.

This is what happens when a Corsair psyker perils. And Princes and Barons can be psykers as well as Void Dreamers.

D6
1- Devoured. No Ld check. The Psyker is claimed by She Who Thirsts. Gains Demon, Hatred (Khorne), Rending, and may run +3 inches. Control switches to your opponent. If the psyker is part of a unit they're locked in combat.

2-3 Soul-Wracked. Slaanesh gives them a back massage is basically what the fluff says. The unit (not just the model) are pinned and your opponent gets to change the target of the psychic power being cast.

4-5 Warp Terrors. Demons swirl about the veil. Unit and all Corsair units within 6" must make a morale check on 3D6 take the two highest or fall back.

6 The Eye of She Who Thirsts. The Psyker gets the attention of Slaanesh. For the rest of the game perils happen for the psyker on any doubles.

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Anything on the Eldar Lord of Wars? I heard that Eldar Titan Holo-fields got changed.


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 jy2 wrote:
Anything on the Eldar Lord of Wars? I heard that Eldar Titan Holo-fields got changed.


You heard wrong. They're not changed.

Pulsars are ordinance (were they before I forget?).


I'm not familiar with the old revenant off the top of my head, did it always have skyfire missiles and was it always only hit on 6s in CC?
   
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Any major FOC changes? Units added or removed, or swapped to different slots? Is this the same army list with some updated rules, or have they extensively changed it to be a new list on the same theme as the previous one?

There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. 
   
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Rules for Shadow Spectres?
Good? Weird?
There at all?


.....so it goes. 
   
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The dark behind the eyes.

Is it true that HQs can take Eldar and DE artefacts?

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 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


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I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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 Farstrand wrote:
Rules for Shadow Spectres?
Good? Weird?
There at all?



I didn't see their rules other than Ghostlight which is unchanged from the FAQ'd version on the FW download page. Their weapons are also unchanged. Disappointing I know. Not sure about Irillyth.

 vipoid wrote:
Is it true that HQs can take Eldar and DE artefacts?


Only the Prince can, not the other HQs. They can also take Harlequin relics as well.

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The dark behind the eyes.

Interesting. Do you know if the Corsairs actually have any relics of their own, or are they just 'limited' to those of other races?

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 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Are they limited to a single Relic, or can they take more than one?

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mercury14 wrote:
 jy2 wrote:
Anything on the Eldar Lord of Wars? I heard that Eldar Titan Holo-fields got changed.


You heard wrong. They're not changed.

Pulsars are ordinance (were they before I forget?).


I'm not familiar with the old revenant off the top of my head, did it always have skyfire missiles and was it always only hit on 6s in CC?

No they weren't Ordnance before, but Ordnance is redundant on D weapons anyways.

No, the Revenant did not have Skyfire missiles, and no it was not hit only on 6's in CC.



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 Jimsolo wrote:
Are they limited to a single Relic, or can they take more than one?


In addition to this question, do the Corsair psykers have access to book powers, or are they limited to a unique discipline?

Welcome to the Freakshow!

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 Jimsolo wrote:
 Jimsolo wrote:
Are they limited to a single Relic, or can they take more than one?


In addition to this question, do the Corsair psykers have access to book powers, or are they limited to a unique discipline?


They get access to Telekenesis and Divination.

Here's more.

- Elite Slot: Malevolent Band. These corsairs are half-insane because of Slaanesh gnawing at their souls and therefore charge into battle with berzerker-like rage.

: Any Corsairs within 6" of them get -1Ld
: They're 2W models with FnP
: Fear, fearless, fleet, furious charge, rage
: 5 points gets the whole unit Jetpacks or Heavy mesh (4+ armor). No-brainer.
: Can get melta bombs, venom blades, power swords (1 per 5)
: Comes with brace of pistols and a CCW

And more....

- Psychic power #5: Warp Tunnel - WC2 - Pick a friendly unit within 6". Make a no-scatter Deep Strike anywhere on the table. The target may shoot and assault as normal. For every 6" moved this way roll a D6, for every 1 rolled take a wound (saves allowed). Only works on Corsair faction units. F&^@ing YES PLEASE!


- Primaris power under Aethermancy

Path-Ward, WC2 - Blessing, only works on Corsair faction units. The unit automatically gets a '6' on difficult terrain rolls, charge distances, thrust moves, hit and run moves, reckless abandon special rules. If it was a D3, it's a 3.


- Warp Hunter, 185 points, can be squandroned. 36" Str: D minus 1 AP2 with small blast barrage D3+1 shots. Also has a template firing mode.

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Interesting, so Reckless Abandon has something to do with movement.
   
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I need to scrounge up every penny I have for these guys

5000pts 6000pts 3000pts
 
   
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 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Interesting, so Reckless Abandon has something to do with movement.



Yeah.

Eldar Lynx:
12/12/11, 5 HP
Heavy Support NOT a superheavy
Costs 5 more than a Land Raider
Flyer with skimmer mode
Can Deep Strike
Can't jink when flying (it's too clumsy), only snap firing when flying
Comes with a shuriken cannon, can turn it into a BL/SL/SC for +5 pts


The Lynx Pulsar has an Ordinance 3, S: D, AP2, Twin-linked 48" firing mode now, as well as the Large blast D which also gets ordinance

Sonic lance is unchanged

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Boy, I start looking at getting back into 40k after a LOONNNG time off and one of the first things I see is fresh FW Eldar updates. This could be bad for the wallet, corsairs seem like such a fun idea.

 
   
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mercury14 wrote:
 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Interesting, so Reckless Abandon has something to do with movement.



Yeah.

Eldar Lynx:
12/12/11, 5 HP
Heavy Support NOT a superheavy
Costs 5 more than a Land Raider
Flyer with skimmer mode
Can Deep Strike
Can't jink when flying (it's too clumsy), only snap firing when flying
Comes with a shuriken cannon, can turn it into a BL/SL/SC for +5 pts


The Lynx Pulsar has an Ordinance 3, S: D, AP2, Twin-linked 48" firing mode now, as well as the Large blast D which also gets ordinance

Sonic lance is unchanged

Holy cats! Seems like it got better. Better armor now, from 420pts down to about 260. But does it still have the ETHF?


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So the ITC lists can have Lynxes and a Wraithknight?

Not sure how I feel about D Skyfire to be honest.

Can DE/Harlequins take these things as FOC options, or is it strictly Craftworlds?

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 Frozocrone wrote:
Not sure how I feel about D Skyfire to be honest.


It can only snap fire when acting as a flyer, so skyfire doesn't do anything. On the other hand, three twin-linked shots at BS 1 is still a pretty decent chance of getting a hit on a flyer. I really would have preferred it if FW had only allowed it to use the blast profile.

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Yeah, statistically you should get at least one six.

The opposing Flyer will probably Jink anyway to avoid getting hit with the D weapon so you could probably just fire one Lynx at a Flyer and be done with it for the turn.

Would have preferred Blast only too.

YMDC = nightmare 
   
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3 TL snap fires has a 66.5% of getting at least 1 hit
   
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 Peregrine wrote:
Any major FOC changes? Units added or removed, or swapped to different slots? Is this the same army list with some updated rules, or have they extensively changed it to be a new list on the same theme as the previous one?



Yes.

Corsair Fleet Raiding Company

Mandatory stuff:
- Command Crew (1-2 HQ, 0-1 Elite, 0-1 LoW)
- Primary Coterie (1 HQ, 1-3 Troops, 0-2 Elites, 0-2 Fast, 1 Heavy)

Optional 0-3 Coteries (same as primary)

Features:
- Obsec Troops
- Coterie Specializations. Each Coterie can select one of the following rules and you can't double up on any rule pick. (Command Crew doesnt get one):

Titan Breakers - Preferred enemy tank and walker
Head Takers - Rerolls 1 to wound in CC
Sky Burners - Deep strikes scatter D6 and reroll failed reserve rolls (optional)
Vault Breechers - Gain Dissonance breech
Night Hunters - Gain Night Vision and Preferred Enemy (stuff at night)
Hate Bringers - Pick an enemy unit on turn 1. The Coterie's infantry and jetbikes get Hatred (those guys) for the whole game and if you kill those guys gain a VP. Any part of your army can kill it for the VP doesn't have to be the coterie with this ability or even Corsairs.

Internal Politics: Your Coteries count each other as Allies of Convenience.


CW Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Harlequins are battle brothers. Tau, Imperials are Desperate allies, never may be in a list with Chaos, Nids, Crons. Nobody is allies of Convenience for Corsairs (except different parts of their own detachment lol)


 jy2 wrote:
But does it still have the ETHF?


The Lynx does not have titan holofields now. The revenant has them unchanged.

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mercury14 wrote:
The book was there on display. FW is awesome. Also Corsairs are Awesome.

What do you want to know?


Yeah, why did they decide to skip updating IA8 and jump straight to 11?

/bitterorkplayer
   
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Can the corsair prince get a jetbike? What are the different "paths" he can take? Any option for hit & run?

Can we still take harlequins / aspect warriors / dark eldar warriors as elite choices in the corsairs, or are they limited to their own detachments now?

0-1 LoW slot? Can corsairs get wraithknights, or just their own super heavies?

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Are wasp walkers still troops?

What are the options for the basic corsair troops?

What flyers can they take?

Do they still have access to a craftworld or dark eldar elite choice?

Did they add any vehicle options over the old list or is it mainly the same stuff?

Omg I need all the corsair info
   
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 Swabby wrote:
Are wasp walkers still troops?


They're Elites now, still squadronable. They got open-topped and kinetic fields (which are amazing for them).

What are the options for the basic corsair troops?


A lot. I think I posted them earlier.

Also for +5 pts the whole squad can get 3+ armor and rerolls on dangerous terrain checks, losing fleet.

Presently I see no way to take the EML and shuriken cannon on corsairs which is odd because the FW corsair hvy weapon upgrade kit sells those parts.

What flyers can they take?


The Phoenix Bomber and Nightwing. The Nightwind costs a naked farseer + 25, the Phoenix bomber dropped -20 pts.

Do they still have access to a craftworld or dark eldar elite choice?


Not that I can see. One thing to note, they may still have another elite choice, Void Storm squad from the old book. Not sure.

Did they add any vehicle options over the old list or is it mainly the same stuff?


Kinetic fields. 5++ invuln if the vehicle moved, 4++ rerollable if it moved flat out, deep struck, or jumped (Wasp).

Omg I need all the corsair info


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 Rypher wrote:
Can the corsair prince get a jetbike? What are the different "paths" he can take? Any option for hit & run?


He sure can get a Jetbike. So can the Corsair Baron. By the way, the Prince is S4. Not sure why but he is.

No hit and run. I'll post paths in a few minutes.


 Rypher wrote:
0-1 LoW slot? Can corsairs get wraithknights, or just their own super heavies?


I think they can only get FW superheavies such as the Scorpion, Cobra, Revenant. The WK is a unit from another codex. Might be able to take the new WK. Not 100% sure though.

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mercury14 wrote:


 Rypher wrote:
0-1 LoW slot? Can corsairs get wraithknights, or just their own super heavies?


I think they can only get FW superheavies such as the Scorpion, Cobra, Revenant. The WK is a unit from another codex. Might be able to take the new WK. Not 100% sure though.


I reckon they'd be able to take the new Knights at least, considering this picture from the open day of a Void Dragon Knight:

   
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Anyway, Corsair Princes/Princesses all have their own dark little obsessions and *may* take one of the following paths at no cost:

A) Seeker of Forbidden Pleasures (aka The Drug Lord) - The Corsair Prince gains the Corsair Combat Drugs special rule and any unit in the same detachment (infantry/JP infantry, jetbike) may get Corsair Combat Drugs for +15 points per unit.

Corsair Combat Drugs (aka "those Dark Eldar Drugs just make my neck itch" list).
1) +1A
2) +1S
3) +1I
4) +1T
5) +1 WS
6) Roll for two drugs (!!!)

*waits to sober up*

B) Traveler of Forgotten Paths - The Webway Prince. Because walking is for chumps. The Prince gets a Multi-phase key generator and any other character in the detachment can get one too. So wtf is this thing?

Multiphase Key Generator - the model gets Deep Strike, something about carving the webway. In addition it may be activated during any shooting phase instead of shooting to open up a webway gate within 3" of the model. All your reserves can enter through it except not vehicles. If any of your guys are falling back within 3" of it, they can go in it and enter ongoing reserves.

C) Collector of Ancient Treasures - This is how the Prince can get a relic from CWE, DE, or Harlequins. Mask of Secrets maybe. Also any other character in the detachment can slap Master-Crafted on their weapon for 10 pts. It doesn't say it has to be a CC weapon.

D) Reaper of the Outer Dark - For the Prince that's really loves killing. The Prince gets Rampage and any unit in the detachment can get Rage for free. But whenever they're within 8" they *must* charge. If they killed a unit with shooting and have another enemy within 8" they get to (must) charge it.

E) Wielder of Profane Powers - This Prince picked up something that should have been left unfound. Gains +1 psychic ML, meaning they can be ML2. Must pick at least one Maelefic Demonology power and other psykers in the detachment get access to Demonology. When they peril, replace the 6 (remember they have their own perils chart as I posted) with:

Lust for Dark Power: The Prince went too far down the dark path (d'oh!). For the rest of the game at the beginning of every psychic phase the Prince must attempt a Malefic power using at least 2WC. If for some reason they can't, they get pinned automatically.

F) Survivor of Endless Darkness - For the geriatric prince 3000 years old who's basically a ghoul going around sipping elixers to postpone death. This prince is insane and nasty. Gains It Will Not Die but if he fails it, he crumples to the ground all withered and dusty (auto-pinned).

Any other units in the detachment can get FnP for +10 points.

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