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I'm pretty interested in hearing peoples stories for pet peeves people have of other players. Admittedly we know for the most part our player base is not always socially skilled, but sometimes people just make you go dude, wtf. My current play area is mostly military so not as many issues as before, but some issues I have seen:

body odor-like seriously, at work I will have to counsel people for having poor hygiene but out in town I suppose it is frowned upon.

staring-I've seen a few of the guys like if a girl walks in pretty much creepily side stare them the entire time they are in the store, like it even makes me uncomfortable

This one guy who continuously tries to say his stuff has other rules it doesn't and when someone calls it out will be like oh my bad remembering 3rd edition (I know it can happen but he plays very very often)

I know there are more I will be able to think of later, but I want to hear the stories that make some people just kind of step back and process what just happened.

Edit for title

I dont get to play often but the only real "cringe" was from a Heroclix player (I used to be) who kept telling me how broken 40k was and how glad he didnt play.

Cool. I agree 40k is a total mess. But saying Heroclix is any better/cheaper? I couldnt even bother debating that amount of delusion.

Hands down, I've played some rather unsavory guys, but I keep this story around for these threads.

Showed up to play my friend, he canceled, didn't get message til that day, only played for about 3+ months, still new and have 6th edition DA.

Other guy introduces me to TFG, says he's looking for a PUG. Fine, whatever.

TFG sees me set out all my models ahead of time, asks if I have any AA, answer a Quad Gun and Nephilim Jetfighter, TFG then list tailors me (not something I thought people actually did, or to people's faces).

While setting up, TFG brags about having to leave his previous store because he was 'too good' and beat everyone so bad they refused to play him.

TFG then puts out 3 Storm Talons, 2 Storm Ravens, Chapter master with kitted out Sternguard, and 3 Shotgun Scout squads in 3 Land Speeder Storms, all unpainted so he can run different CTs as he pleases.

TFG proceeds to stomp me, whatever, but acts like he won through strategy and skill.

TFG disappears and is never seen until about a year later, 3 weeks ago.

Talk to current friend about TFG, turns out everyone hates him and he's such a douche. Somehow TFG has a wife.....

There are these family of gamers in my group and UGH I hate them.
Im gonna catch flak for this, but I know they has Aspergers, but my god, those kids are the worst. One unit dies, they fail to kill one unit or something and they blow up. and Im always stuck playing them
The most recent was worse
1: The guy forgot to fire all his missiles, I did the math in my head and was about to tell him, but didnt. So a turn later he asks if he can fire more this time to make up. I said no, this is a tournament and you gotta live with it.
2: He built his whole army over the fact that Devilfishes can deepstrike, guess what they cant do? Yeah I told him that when he first tried. Whine Whine Whine the whole next two turns.
Neither was when I sniped the guy with a KFF so now his green tide is useless.

There are a few unsavory people near where I go... but hands down the worse is the guy who smells terribly of B.O.

Normally you can forgive someone who smells, and talk to him about it, but we have talked to him multiple times and does not think it is that much of an issue. At an event we even had the event coordinator buy him a can of deodorant, which the guy promptly threw out after having it handed to him.

Exalbaru wrote:
I'm pretty interested in hearing peoples stories for pet peeves people have of other players. Admittedly we know for the most part our player base is not always socially skilled, but sometimes people just make you go dude, wtf. My current play area is mostly military so not as many issues as before, but some issues I have seen:

body odor-like seriously, at work I will have to counsel people for having poor hygiene but out in town I suppose it is frowned upon.

I guess I'm lucky? when it comes to the whole unwashed BO issue myself... Having been heavily involved in minor hockey for most of my life, including about 18 years of high level competitive hockey, 'body stink' doesn't phase me at all.
Granted I know guys who've been out on the job for 8+ hours in the sun can be a nasty level of Nurgly goodness, but then, I played for two years with a goalie who hadn't even aired out - let alone washed - her equipment in over three years! We actually would stick her in her own dressing room, and I swear half the pucks she stopped where due to a solid cloud of pure gak rather than any form of skill...

On the other hand, I can't stand being around anyone who's just smoked a couple cigs. The stench of second hand smoke just gags me every single time.
Worst of all is the LGS in town, as the gaming tables are all in their own small little side rooms. Nice for privacy and keeping the noise down. Death traps when your opponent turns out to be a three pack a day chain smoker who needs a break every 10-15min to go light up another one...

Exalbaru wrote:
staring-I've seen a few of the guys like if a girl walks in pretty much creepily side stare them the entire time they are in the store, like it even makes me uncomfortable.

It's funny, because I've been on the receiving end of this so much! Best was after getting a job at the local GW store, and for the first half a year or so, just a constant barrage of, "Omg! you're a girl/there's a girl working here now?!"

I understand the whole thing where it's fun to watch a trainwreck, and fun to hear stories about TFG. Sort of like how it's "fun" to watch ridiculous drama on a reality television show.

But I wish we had more threads about AWESOME players come up than the weekly "tell me about your horrible game experiences" thread.

oz of the north wrote:
There are a few unsavory people near where I go... but hands down the worse is the guy who smells terribly of B.O.

Normally you can forgive someone who smells, and talk to him about it, but we have talked to him multiple times and does not think it is that much of an issue. At an event we even had the event coordinator buy him a can of deodorant, which the guy promptly threw out after having it handed to him.

We have a guy sort of like that, and tbh I feel bad for him. He comes from a very broken home where ever since he was a kid, the parents leave their place trashed with rats running around and junk. He's trying to earn money to move out, but he gets a really bad rep for carrying the smell of his home with him.

oz of the north wrote:
There are a few unsavory people near where I go... but hands down the worse is the guy who smells terribly of B.O.

Normally you can forgive someone who smells, and talk to him about it, but we have talked to him multiple times and does not think it is that much of an issue. At an event we even had the event coordinator buy him a can of deodorant, which the guy promptly threw out after having it handed to him.

I always bring Deodarant with me, my meta can get very heated and I don't want to walk into the shop and come out of a sauna

I dislike players that whine, list-tailor and knowingly cheat. I've got one person I know who made Necron Wraiths T6, Outflanked Stormtalons from Master of Ambush, taken multiple of the same name relic, etc, etc...

OP, you change this thread name to You know what really grinds my gears

 niv-mizzet wrote:

oz of the north wrote:
There are a few unsavory people near where I go... but hands down the worse is the guy who smells terribly of B.O.

Normally you can forgive someone who smells, and talk to him about it, but we have talked to him multiple times and does not think it is that much of an issue. At an event we even had the event coordinator buy him a can of deodorant, which the guy promptly threw out after having it handed to him.

We have a guy sort of like that, and tbh I feel bad for him. He comes from a very broken home where ever since he was a kid, the parents leave their place trashed with rats running around and junk. He's trying to earn money to move out, but he gets a really bad rep for carrying the smell of his home with him.

This guy does not have that problem with a broken home, lives with grandparents since just does not want a job.

oz of the north wrote:?.. At an event we even had the event coordinator buy him a can of deodorant, which the guy promptly threw out after having it handed to him.

Brilliant Why can't more do this!

Experiment 626 wrote:...snip...

Didn't you used to work at a cursed GW store? I vaguely recall a thread where every undesirable and natural disaster happened!

There's this guy at my local GW that always gets his rules wrong.

And honestly I can't tell whether it's ignorance or willful cheating but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt based on the fact that he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed + he gets rules completely wrong for armies he knows I play regularly and I can't believe anyone is that stupid.

Last time he argued the banner of blood gave him 6" + 2D6 charge range rather than 6" + D6. Can't fanthom how anyone read that wrong, but whatever.
The time before that he argued that he could purchase as much boons from the blood tithe table as he wanted while it clearly tells you to pick one and discard the remaining points. (I am aware that their detachment allows you to pick two, but he literally tried buying 3 with his points).

DaPino wrote:
There's this guy at my local GW that always gets his rules wrong.

And honestly I can't tell whether it's ignorance or willful cheating but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt based on the fact that he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed + he gets rules completely wrong for armies he knows I play regularly and I can't believe anyone is that stupid.

Last time he argued the banner of blood gave him 6" + 2D6 charge range rather than 6" + D6. Can't fanthom how anyone read that wrong, but whatever.
The time before that he argued that he could purchase as much boons from the blood tithe table as he wanted while it clearly tells you to pick one and discard the remaining points. (I am aware that their detachment allows you to pick two, but he literally tried buying 3 with his points).

I work at a pizza place. People subconsciously read what they want to read. I can't tell you how many times I've had to tell people that "the coupon does not say you get as many extra free pizzas as you want just by buying 1."

I think it is the need to win no-matter what that is painful to see.
I befriended a fellow as I was new in the gaming area.
I began to realize after a time my role was to lose and I was considered a bit mentally deficient for not getting with the program.

Just got into 40k with the guy and he beat me often but I was getting better.
One evening I won, (shock horror!).
So he casually asked if I wanted to play Lasertag at the place around the corner.
So sure (grew up on farm with weapons target shooting for fun and loved shooter arcade games).. beat him by 3-4 points, he was some member of a league or something.
He was getting agitated (I still had not clued in just yet...).
So then he asked me to play air-hockey which they had there (my family owned one that my brother and I competed on all the time).
He had asked me to "not hold back" not knowing the history and I "think" he figured this was obscure enough to beat me on.
I destroyed him, he did not get a single goal in.
I apologized and he basically ran out of the building.
It was the perfect storm of being on your A-game that day and being utterly clueless of his need to win.
I realized then and many other games with the WAAC crowd that the ultimate insult is to beat them and then apologize!

At a later date, he had asked me what ratio he played at "to win" or "just to have fun"... I said 80-20 in that order and he said "Good, I thought I was losing my edge".
<sigh> This is not a good thing in my books.

I don't have any "really" bad players at my LGS, as the crowd there is pretty cool. The worst guy is the one who likes bringing a Baneblade to every game he plays above 1500 pts, no matter who he is going against or their experience level. None of us really mind as he's a really nice guy (and Baneblades aren't that strong atm)

 War Kitten wrote:
I don't have any "really" bad players at my LGS, as the crowd there is pretty cool. The worst guy is the one who likes bringing a Baneblade to every game he plays above 1500 pts, no matter who he is going against or their experience level. None of us really mind as he's a really nice guy (and Baneblades aren't that strong atm)

I have that same player, but lower that point count to 750-1000. Also always takes tanks for the rest of his army. Made him leave after he tried to hamfisted a lemun russ into a kill team league i was starting and he refused to change it

autumnlotus wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I don't have any "really" bad players at my LGS, as the crowd there is pretty cool. The worst guy is the one who likes bringing a Baneblade to every game he plays above 1500 pts, no matter who he is going against or their experience level. None of us really mind as he's a really nice guy (and Baneblades aren't that strong atm)

I have that same player, but lower that point count to 750-1000. Also always takes tanks for the rest of his army. Made him leave after he tried to hamfisted a lemun russ into a kill team league i was starting and he refused to change it

Luckily for me the guy in question at my store really is a great guy, he just loves his tanks.

I have an opponent with a nasty penchant for using broken as hell formations and combos, such as bringing a Libby conclave and Invisibility ing a triple Vindicator squadron. He also loes to bring 30K units (primarily primarchs) in to 40K without any prior warning and has been known to hide them until mid game in transports.
He will then complain about other armies rules, such as GK out psyching him, DA airwing and IG Orders.

In fact some of my favourite complaints are:

"Guard orders are overpowered, they should be a once per game thing like chapter tactics" (this was after I FRFSRF 3 Veteran sections in a 'friendly' game where we had agreed not to use anything bigger than walkers and he had deployed a Primarch)

"Guard tanks are over powered, you need to bring less of them (I had 7 in a 2K game)"

"This game, lets each pick one unit which our opponent cant use" (Then justified this in that I could pick Librarians and stop his psychic spam. I politely declined)

"The Guard are not about the tanks, they are about the men on the front line"

"I think that two or three tanks is enough for a guard army"

There is also the club manager. He is a great guy but keeps making remarks about my Leman Russ - I use Bolt Action Churchills (my army is themed around the British East Lancashire units) and how they are "too small" (the fact that they are only slightly smaller than a LRBT is beside the point) and that I should "buy some proper tanks".
Oddly enough when I offered him the chance to purchase them for me he declined.....

I love that idea with the deodorant, and will probably buy some for when I go to the store hahaha. As a healthcare provider, a bad smell can clue in a plethora of issues so its a big thing for me.

Agreed, power gaming is the worst, its a game. Its something we do for fun, its totally fine to lose and should be no big deal. But its almost like I'm embarrassed for these guys when they just start stammering and blaming small stuff.

 master of ordinance wrote:
I have an opponent with a nasty penchant for using broken as hell formations and combos, such as bringing a Libby conclave and Invisibility ing a triple Vindicator squadron. He also loes to bring 30K units (primarily primarchs) in to 40K without any prior warning and has been known to hide them until mid game in transports.
He will then complain about other armies rules, such as GK out psyching him, DA airwing and IG Orders.

In fact some of my favourite complaints are:

"Guard orders are overpowered, they should be a once per game thing like chapter tactics" (this was after I FRFSRF 3 Veteran sections in a 'friendly' game where we had agreed not to use anything bigger than walkers and he had deployed a Primarch)

"Guard tanks are over powered, you need to bring less of them (I had 7 in a 2K game)"

"This game, lets each pick one unit which our opponent cant use" (Then justified this in that I could pick Librarians and stop his psychic spam. I politely declined)

"The Guard are not about the tanks, they are about the men on the front line"

"I think that two or three tanks is enough for a guard army"

There is also the club manager. He is a great guy but keeps making remarks about my Leman Russ - I use Bolt Action Churchills (my army is themed around the British East Lancashire units) and how they are "too small" (the fact that they are only slightly smaller than a LRBT is beside the point) and that I should "buy some proper tanks".
Oddly enough when I offered him the chance to purchase them for me he declined.....

Guard Tanks are obscenely overpowered, the GW staff took away my mates Relic Whirlwind Scorpius w/ Battle of Keylek for a Lemun Russ and claimed he had better fire power because it was a large blast not a small blast so he shouldn't be mad. My mate is seriously thinking about packing his models up if it happens again.

Non-competitive fluffy campaign.

Brings War Convocation with Imperial Knight.

Mentally butchered alive and left for the ravens.

 Arkaine wrote:
Non-competitive fluffy campaign.

Yeah, aren't those the worst?

 zedmeister wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:...snip...

Didn't you used to work at a cursed GW store? I vaguely recall a thread where every undesirable and natural disaster happened!

Yep. We were known as "the store that God hates."

Though we did prove that the Waaaagh! is indeed powerful enough to knock out reception in nearby walkie-talkies!

Experiment 626 wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:...snip...

Didn't you used to work at a cursed GW store? I vaguely recall a thread where every undesirable and natural disaster happened!

Yep. We were known as "the store that God hates."

Though we did prove that the Waaaagh! is indeed powerful enough to knock out reception in nearby walkie-talkies!

Remind me of a store that always had a new guy every time I went... Only one was a TFG.

 Frozocrone wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:
I have an opponent with a nasty penchant for using broken as hell formations and combos, such as bringing a Libby conclave and Invisibility ing a triple Vindicator squadron. He also loes to bring 30K units (primarily primarchs) in to 40K without any prior warning and has been known to hide them until mid game in transports.
He will then complain about other armies rules, such as GK out psyching him, DA airwing and IG Orders.

In fact some of my favourite complaints are:

"Guard orders are overpowered, they should be a once per game thing like chapter tactics" (this was after I FRFSRF 3 Veteran sections in a 'friendly' game where we had agreed not to use anything bigger than walkers and he had deployed a Primarch)

"Guard tanks are over powered, you need to bring less of them (I had 7 in a 2K game)"

"This game, lets each pick one unit which our opponent cant use" (Then justified this in that I could pick Librarians and stop his psychic spam. I politely declined)

"The Guard are not about the tanks, they are about the men on the front line"

"I think that two or three tanks is enough for a guard army"

There is also the club manager. He is a great guy but keeps making remarks about my Leman Russ - I use Bolt Action Churchills (my army is themed around the British East Lancashire units) and how they are "too small" (the fact that they are only slightly smaller than a LRBT is beside the point) and that I should "buy some proper tanks".
Oddly enough when I offered him the chance to purchase them for me he declined.....

Guard Tanks are obscenely overpowered, the GW staff took away my mates Relic Whirlwind Scorpius w/ Battle of Keylek for a Lemun Russ and claimed he had better fire power because it was a large blast not a small blast so he shouldn't be mad. My mate is seriously thinking about packing his models up if it happens again.

Wait, What?
A Gw employee took your friends model and made him use a different one?

We have a guy in my gaming group, who for the most part is a really fun guy to be with; However...

I have this completely bad vipe of him, and on numerous occassions, I've looked at his army, and noticed the amount of points he'd used was off (I calculated once, 325pt in a 250 pt game).
I haven't had the balls to confront him, since I am quite unsure if it's me who've overlooked something (I am not 100% familiar with his codex) or that he's actually cheating.

He also has a tendency, to completely wipe out newbies, going as far as to ignore the other more skilled players in 2 v 2 battles.

Murrdox wrote:
I understand the whole thing where it's fun to watch a trainwreck, and fun to hear stories about TFG. Sort of like how it's "fun" to watch ridiculous drama on a reality television show.

But I wish we had more threads about AWESOME players come up than the weekly "tell me about your horrible game experiences" thread.

I have a story that fits this thread and your post. I told this story over a few previous posts, but here is is again

My experience with TFG


My revenge


Aftermath, the until now untold followup:
I felt bad for the revenge part. It ate at me (curse having a conscience). The next time I saw him, a few weeks later, I apologized. Or at least I started to. He actually interrupted me to apologize and tell me he deserved it. At this point a few of the other guys gathered around, and we talked it out. He told us he was sorry, and he got to caught up in needing to win. And he was willing to work on it. Skeptically, we accepted. He has become a great opponent to play against, like a totally different person. There are one or two people who still begrudge him, but the last few months I have been actually looking forward to playing him, and no one has had any complaints (about him, rather than about how much necrons can suck to play against). His total 180 was great, and really goes to show that you never know what you can gain from simply talking to the problem members of your community. Yes, it may get you nowhere, but you really aren't any worse off. Or, it could help turn one TFG into a great contribution to your local player group.

Experiment 626 wrote:

Exalbaru wrote:
staring-I've seen a few of the guys like if a girl walks in pretty much creepily side stare them the entire time they are in the store, like it even makes me uncomfortable.

It's funny, because I've been on the receiving end of this so much! Best was after getting a job at the local GW store, and for the first half a year or so, just a constant barrage of, "Omg! you're a girl/there's a girl working here now?!"

Honestly I personally don't care unless the girl is pretty. It's less "A girl plays here!" and more "A girl plays here and SHE'S HOT!" I mean certain things in nerd culture are more heavily populated by guys (like Games Workshop) and judging by how anti-social and gut-less most of the guys are (myself included) the pretty girls get stares. Not to be mean but when girls often come to the Games Workshop in Michigan they're either escorted by their husbands or boyfriends rather than coming by themselves and generally only play or usually paint because their husband does it (maybe they're being supportive which is good on them). Also in many cases these girls tend to not be the best looking. Sometimes they have a chunk of hair missing from their scalp or some such. Oddly enough online there are a few pretty girl gamers in warhammer and that just blows my mind. They must be in the 0.1% (though one of the GW's in Michigan at one point had an attractive female employee that was good at painting or modeling the models).

You also gotta understand it's good to find somebody interested in the same things and it's not like these guys went out of their way to see you rather than played and you just came in. I won't say it doesn't suck trying to fit in and enjoy your hobby while getting stares but I don't understand that end. Being a guy the end I understand is trying to find a nerdy gamer girl that's halfway decent looking and having to fight off about 20 or more dudes to get chosen and usually I can manage to come close to the top ok but never get the girl. Of course this might be generalizing a bit much but most of the war-gamer girls on the internet are either taken (in a relationship) or gay (could explain why they like the more male heavy games).

At this point if a pretty girl gamer comes along I sigh more than anything. Mostly it's because they are all out of my league as most pretty girls are and it's just not worth the effort anymore. Also it will ruin the atmosphere as people act super nice to her, stare at her or are angrily dissuaded from hitting on her so that the guys in the store are more uneasy when she's around and the mood feels unnatural.

I'm sure i'll get flak for my comments on that but whatever. It's the truth and I've been told I'm not a liar (even when it might be better to hold my tongue).

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I'm also sorry for anybody that has to work at a GW store for many reasons. One being the hate GW receives and you have to deal with and the various moves GW makes. I used to not mind the idea of working at a GW even when they halved the imperial guardsmen boxes and increased the price when 5th edition imperial guard came and employees tried to reason it. It was more the dreaded AoS that came out this year and the death of fantasy. Not only justifying it as an employee and shouting down the customer but acting like it's the best thing since sliced bread. I'm sorry I can't be forced to like something so abysmal that hurt so many customers. It's a topic for another thread though.

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Far as my own experiences go there's a few kinds of people I don't like in the store. The super-competitive or snobby (to almost hipster levels) people that think themselves better or belittle you for your army or the supposed 'cool kids' nerds. The other thing is really annoying players like somebody that won't shut up. Body odor is also a problem and maybe my nose isn't that sensitive but I haven't experienced anything that bad so far.

I've in between places right now (Wales, London, West Country and china, it's possible) now people on this forum are familiar with my stories about some of the reactions my army gets. But recently I played in a tornament. I knew in was unable to win because of 2 factors. 1. I was leaving for China before it ended. 2. Anyone with with a scatter bike wiped the floor with me. But it had fun. I always play fluffy so it don't mind much.

This is until I played TFG with wolves. He denied every point i took. Every save he failed he moaned about. Tried to deny my rolls when my flyers came on. He fairly beat me. But after he came up took me while I was having having a drink and went on how he "wiped the floor with me and I shouldn't try and deny it." In reality I had destroyed all his tanks and won with a few scouts holding objectives. I thought it was simply pathetic of of a man in his 30s to get so agro over winning...he didn't even lose!

 master of ordinance wrote:
I have an opponent with a nasty penchant for using broken as hell formations and combos, such as bringing a Libby conclave and Invisibility ing a triple Vindicator squadron. He also loes to bring 30K units (primarily primarchs) in to 40K without any prior warning and has been known to hide them until mid game in transports.
He will then complain about other armies rules, such as GK out psyching him, DA airwing and IG Orders.

In fact some of my favourite complaints are:

"Guard orders are overpowered, they should be a once per game thing like chapter tactics" (this was after I FRFSRF 3 Veteran sections in a 'friendly' game where we had agreed not to use anything bigger than walkers and he had deployed a Primarch)

"Guard tanks are over powered, you need to bring less of them (I had 7 in a 2K game)"

"This game, lets each pick one unit which our opponent cant use" (Then justified this in that I could pick Librarians and stop his psychic spam. I politely declined)

"The Guard are not about the tanks, they are about the men on the front line"

"I think that two or three tanks is enough for a guard army"

There is also the club manager. He is a great guy but keeps making remarks about my Leman Russ - I use Bolt Action Churchills (my army is themed around the British East Lancashire units) and how they are "too small" (the fact that they are only slightly smaller than a LRBT is beside the point) and that I should "buy some proper tanks".
Oddly enough when I offered him the chance to purchase them for me he declined.....

Its in the 40k rule book that if your opponent asks for your list you have to show it to them. You don't need to be a victim of such nasty surprises!