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We're in December now and so by the end of the month we will have gone a year with out a single errata or answer to any questions on anything from Games Workshop.

Doesn't really give off a good impression does it?

Is it possible GW has stopped supporting the game in providing updates that way?

Maybe they think it would be better to release new rulebook with amendments and call it 7.1 edition?

GW has repeatedly stated over the past few years that they are a models company, not a games company (perhaps because they never bother to read their company's name?). As such, they have no vested interest in supporting Errata or FAQs. All we can do as a community is get over it and workout issues on our own. Thankfully, the interwebz exist!

SJ

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
GW has repeatedly stated over the past few years that they are a models company, not a games company (perhaps because they never bother to read their company's name?). As such, they have no vested interest in supporting Errata or FAQs. All we can do as a community is get over it and workout issues on our own. Thankfully, the interwebz exist!

SJ

Indeed, they replaced the button ''Gaming'' with ''Modeling and Painting'' at the main home page.
Don't bother with FAQs.

GW has abdicated, right or wrong, any and all responsibility for rules confusion or dispute beyond dice it off. Sucks, but the way it is for now.

That's part of the reason why the ITC rules are so popular and used because something has to fill the void.

 buddha wrote:
GW has abdicated, right or wrong, any and all responsibility for rules confusion or dispute beyond dice it off. Sucks, but the way it is for now.

That's part of the reason why the ITC rules are so popular and used because something has to fill the void.

Gotta forge that narrative, man. The rules are *intentionally* murky so you gotta forge that narrative as hard as you can!

....sigh

Can't improve on perfection amirite?

I did notice they went through sometime in the last day or two and removed the outdated FAQs for codexs that had been updated. The DA was up on Wednesday as was the imperial knight one and they are both gone now on the US site.

Damn shame.

I believe that once the current pace of getting all the rules and codices updated for 7th edition is done, we will see the codex pace slow down and GW will focus on updating the game with "slot in" formations and models (e.g. Kauyon/Mont'ka) without having to update the codices. When all are updated for 7th edition we might start seeing some FAQ's / Erratas where applicable.

But i could be totally wrong and 8th edition is due for release next year=)

I don't see a new edition any time soon. Several iterviews with GW staff have kinda said this is the edition to stay around for a while. Chances are we'll see more campaign books and splashing in new units. I kinda like that better.

See my signature about the narrative.

Huge cop out on GW's part for no FAQ's. No reason for them to have stopped doing them.

People please stop buying their books. The rules are garbage and when you buy it you are telling them,"Hi i will continue to support your poor writing for this hard cover edition with many highquality pictures and well written fluff that distract from the confusing and often conflicting rules forcing me and my friend to forge the narrative."

On the flip side, at least they didn't nuke the entire rule system and universe.

 DanielBeaver wrote:
On the flip side, at least they didn't nuke the entire rule system and universe.

Yet

I'm starting to think that is less and less likely. Though the numbers arn't official, AOS doesn't seem to be selling well. Any plans they might have had is probably going to be but on hold if the numbers are bad.

Well AoS alienated the fantasy community. We don't have a lot of 40k players looking at it.

In fact my GW is auctioning off their Lizardmen army.

They're thinking on releasing one for GMC shooting

Key word being thinking no doubt

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
GW has repeatedly stated over the past few years that they are a models company, not a games company (perhaps because they never bother to read their company's name?). As such, they have no vested interest in supporting Errata or FAQs. All we can do as a community is get over it and workout issues on our own. Thankfully, the interwebz exist!

SJ

in fact to up front the only reason we have rules at all anymore is beyond me, i think that if they had their way 40k and sigmar would have no rules at all right now and it would be models and bedtime stories. and if people dont believe me look no further then sigmars release list. everything is models and storybooks. to date weve had 2 count them TWO releases of rules before the advent calendar that were in any way brought in with fanfare or celebration

A lot of people seem very confident 7th edition is going to be around for a while, but those who were around at the time might remember we were hearing that very same thing about 6th edition. I won't be surprised if we get a new rulebook next year, and frankly no amount of hearsay is going to convince me that it's impossible.

As to the FAQs and erratas, yeah it's incredibly sad. Such minimal effort required and they don't do it. Totally inexcusable.

If it ain't broke don't fix it. Or rather, just fix it later down the road with a new codex, or campaign supplement that the customer has to shell out for.

Honestly I am not complaining, the last few campaign books have been excellent and coming from a Skaven player the 8th edition FAQ and Errata was bigger than my army book. I'd rather just live with the odd rules quibble than sort through 20+ pages of an FAQ.

Yes, that's an extreme example, but for the most part you can get your opponent to agree on an questionable rule one way or another, and for competitive play your TO should have their own FAQ and/or be able to make a decision on a ruling in advance of the tournament date.

 Vector Strike wrote:
They're thinking on releasing one for GMC shooting

It's the same as FW promising updates for the old books... you usually just wait for the next 'second edition' release that doesn't fix it!

Underling: "Sir, our models aren't selling well!"
Big Wig: "Increase the price of the models to compensate!"
Underling: "But sir..."
Big Wig: "Do you want to go in the box?"
Underling: "No! No box!"
Big Wig: "Good underling. Now, tell me what's this ruckus about "rules"? Do we sell "rules" for a "game"?"
Underling: "Yes sir, we do."
Big Wig: *points at box*
Underling: "I mean, uh, game, what game? What would a miniatures company be doing selling rules for a game? We make miniatures!"
Big Wig: "Correct. Now, go print some more of those book thingies, you know the sales catalogs."
Underling: "You mean codexes, sir?"
Big Wig: "You know, we still haven't let that guy who writes FAQ's out of his box. Perhaps he would like some company?"
Underling: "Right away, sir! Printing more sales catalogs!"
Big Wig: "Excellent." *tents fingers*

It seems like Big Wig doesn't understand the rules is what sells his product.

I much prefer the Infinity range and if both games stopped producing rules, I'd be more willing to by from Corvus Belli

I think GW should be congratulated for not having made a single error of typo or clarity in all their rules published this year.

 Cleatus wrote:
Underling: "Sir, our models aren't selling well!"
Big Wig: "Increase the price of the models to compensate!"
Underling: "But sir..."
Big Wig: "Do you want to go in the box?"
Underling: "No! No box!"
Big Wig: "Good underling. Now, tell me what's this ruckus about "rules"? Do we sell "rules" for a "game"?"
Underling: "Yes sir, we do."
Big Wig: *points at box*
Underling: "I mean, uh, game, what game? What would a miniatures company be doing selling rules for a game? We make miniatures!"
Big Wig: "Correct. Now, go print some more of those book thingies, you know the sales catalogs."
Underling: "You mean codexes, sir?"
Big Wig: "You know, we still haven't let that guy who writes FAQ's out of his box. Perhaps he would like some company?"
Underling: "Right away, sir! Printing more sales catalogs!"
Big Wig: "Excellent." *tents fingers*

The sad thing is, I suspect this is pretty close to the mark.

I really just want them to come out and fix the Ravenwing Detachment with 3 HQ's and only one option to field. I can understand them wanting players to coin flip grey areas, but when you make a codex with a glaring rules flaw, it needs to be fixed.

 buddha wrote:
GW has abdicated, right or wrong, any and all responsibility for rules confusion or dispute beyond dice it off. Sucks, but the way it is for now.

That's part of the reason why the ITC rules are so popular and used because something has to fill the void.

And thank goodness we have them. Now we can Nerf minority faction players of their good things while maintaining things like super friends on a simple majority mob vote. Who needs rule clarifications when you can just ask the mob if the new powerful rule set they don't use and would have to struggle against should be allowed!

Other things perceived as OP have been put to votes and Tau are hardly destroyed because one piece of there formation was changed.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I think GW should be congratulated for not having made a single error of typo or clarity in all their rules published this year.

The spanish version of the Dark Angels codex is absolute king of the hill btw. Sentences, even entire paragraphs left in English. No quality control, not an ounce of care, still premium prices. And this is no crazy internet gossip, one of the guys in my gaming group bought it.

I have seen other companies (from several fields) treating their customers poorly, but GW is simply a step beyond.