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Looks like Forgeworlds Aeronautica Imperials will return.

From Atia on Bolter and Chainsword:

via Adeptus Astartes

from "The Eye" at GWHQ.

"Prepare yourself for a new boardgame involving flyers from all of the factions. It's call warplane or something like that, I'll get the name tomorrow as I forgot it... but you can play eldar, chaos, space marine and orks"

The first "specialist game" to be released and will be announced any time now!

Posters have been seen in the staff areas at GWHQ.

basically the concept of the old Aeronautica Imperialis

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318131-rumours-first-specialist-game-soon-aeronautica-imperialis/

Bit late aren't you?

I think it deserves it's own thread. The other thread isn't one I check for the new specialist game that's being released.

Yep, good idea it gets its own topic

 zedmeister wrote:
Bit late aren't you?

Not to late, but necessary.

I'm intrigued by this. I never played the original AI, but I loved the models and thought about getting into it until they stopped making it. I'll keep an eye out here.


Now if we could just skip ahead to Battlefleet Gothic...

I'm interested, I hope it actually is Aeronautica Imperialis and I hope the models come back, they were awesome little models and I still need to finish off my Imperial squadron.

It was a game I was interested in, but the price just for the book was more than I thought worth while. I would definitely be interested in a boxed game version.

 CptJake wrote:
It was a game I was interested in, but the price just for the book was more than I thought worth while. I would definitely be interested in a boxed game version.

It was definitely an excessively expensive game. The models themselves were very pricey as well, unfortunately I doubt it'll come through any cheaper with a fresh release.

The books were very good, but if all you wanted to do was play the game, they only contained a few pages of rules so made it difficult.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
It was a game I was interested in, but the price just for the book was more than I thought worth while. I would definitely be interested in a boxed game version.

It was definitely an excessively expensive game. The models themselves were very pricey as well, unfortunately I doubt it'll come through any cheaper with a fresh release.

The books were very good, but if all you wanted to do was play the game, they only contained a few pages of rules so made it difficult.

If it's another boxed game, I expect it will be plastic and so could well have a value proposition similar to the Calth box(ie, fairly spectacular relative to the old prices). What worries me on further reflection is we might end up with another Dreadfleet situation. Not in terms of the product being meh, but of the sales not being what GW had hoped and them cacking all over future release plans as a result - I know this new division is supposed to be semi-autonomous in the same way FW has been, but given the involvement of GW-proper in terms of plastics production I doubt they'll be quite as hands-off as they have been in the past. It just seems odd that they wouldn't kick off with a known quantity like Epic or BFG - AI was fun, but given the price issues you mention and it was a resin FW product it's not going to give a nostalgia boner to anywhere near as big of an audience as some of the bigger ex-SG properties would.

I vaguely remember reading the book had like 16 pages of rules. I had always hoped they would have released that via a free download.

We'll see, a boxed version may still be expensive, but it should contain everything you need to play, and I would think would have plastic figures. I'll be keeping an eye out for it.

If only it could use the X-Wing rules.

I reckon AI is being chosen partly because the rules are already written and partly the models are already in CAD. Tool in plastic, tweak and rework the rules into a new book. Chuck in some counters, box up, job done. A boxed game that's cheap as chips to produce. Release the models as plastic upgrades if the game does well enough...

 BrookM wrote:
If only it could use the X-Wing rules.

I thought both AI and X Wing just used a version of Wings of War rules?

Loved the AI books - compared to other GW books - especially Codexes .army books - i thought they were cheap considring the quality of the product.

Enjoyed the games I played of AI (far more than X Wing tbh)

 Mr Morden wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
If only it could use the X-Wing rules.

I thought both AI and X Wing just used a version of Wings of War rules?

Loved the AI books - compared to other GW books - especially Codexes .army books - i thought they were cheap considring the quality of the product.

Enjoyed the games I played of AI (far more than X Wing tbh)

It was cheap considering the books as a whole, because the books contained a lot more than just the rules, lots of background and awesome colour pictures. But that creates a barrier to entry because if you just want the rules to play a game the books were expensive given there was only a few pages of rules in them.

 BrookM wrote:
If only it could use the X-Wing rules.

Why not just do this?
There so many X-Wing ships around now that you can easily find a fitting stat card one for the AI flyers.
There are even point calculators around, plus fantastic online squad builder http://xwing-builder.co.uk/build#.


To be honest I am tempted atm to do a Robotech and Wing Commander conversion set based on X-Wing.

Hopefully they make the Thunderbolt smaller, as it was drastically out of scale.

Well that would be a must buy for me depending on how the aircraft look

Missed AI completely back in the day. What scale is it? BFG size?
Could its rules be adapted to fit 40k scale flyers just for laughs?

 Ratius wrote:
Missed AI completely back in the day. What scale is it? BFG size?
Could its rules be adapted to fit 40k scale flyers just for laughs?

BFG scale would make the models mere pinpricks on the tabletop It uses the same scale as Epic did, approximately 6mm.

 Ghaz wrote:

 Ratius wrote:
Missed AI completely back in the day. What scale is it? BFG size?
Could its rules be adapted to fit 40k scale flyers just for laughs?

BFG scale would make the models mere pinpricks on the tabletop It uses the same scale as Epic did, approximately 6mm.

I was under the impression the Forge World resin aircraft were a bit bigger than the GW metal ones for the same aircraft.

 CptJake wrote:

I was under the impression the Forge World resin aircraft were a bit bigger than the GW metal ones for the same aircraft.

Nah, the GW Metal Epic aircraft were woefully under scaled. The majority of the AI models were originally released for Epic (for 3rd Edition no less).

The FW epic models were all actually in scale with the infantry, whereas the GW metal ones were generally significantly undersized. That's where the discrepancy came from.

It's a boardgame setup. And we've seen that GW's latest boardgame efforts besides the now old Space Hulk have not been very good.

Most of the aircraft from Forge World were in scale; the Imperial Thunderbolt Fighter was far too big.

It's good for AI, but not so good for Epic, as now the aircraft look far too big compared to the ground vehicles.

 BrookM wrote:
If only it could use the X-Wing rules.

I have said that on several occasions! The AI system was so close already, all it really needs is the dial system and I think it would be great.

 AAN wrote:
Why not just do this?

I've said that on several occasions, too, but haven't gotten around to it. Frankly, yes - I'd rather someone else did the work. That's why I'm willing to pay for a game rulebook, right?

But if they re-release AI with the same exact rules, it will need a fix before I'll want to play it much. Maybe we'll find some game designer who is eager to do that, and willing to write it all up for us. Know anyone like that, Agis?

- H8

So only four factions, and it's allegedly called "Warplane"...

If there were Tau I'd probably be interested, but considering none of the factions appeal to me, and GW hasn't released a good board game since fething Space Hulk (which is old as dirt), I'm probably gonna pass.

Betrayal at Calth was actually a pretty good board game. Just sayin.....

Assassin one is fun but nothing super special. The only real crappy release was dreadfleet and even that's fun if you don't mind to much random.

Why would they implement space marine flyers before the Imperial Navy? The space marines just don't have the same kind of scale or impact in the air as the Imperial Navy.

I'm a big fan of X-wing as it is so this could be right up my street depending on the variety and quality of the models, anything Eldar, (all varieties!) Ork, Imperial Guard and Tau would make it an irresistible proposition.