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Given the bloated unrealistic proportions of the Cadian figures it would be very easy to make more feminine looking figures for Cadians.

It could also be done with Space Marines.

The problem is that the torso has always been a basis for GWs model design as in they design the torso and then build everything to fit that, making everything in a kit interchangeable. Providing different sized torsos in a kit would be a challenge for how their kits work.

Pretend your whole army is Female. Problem solved.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Given the bloated unrealistic proportions of the Cadian figures it would be very easy to make more feminine looking figures for Cadians.

It could also be done with Space Marines.

But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Or the fact that the Big-E is sexist because dystopian future. Should we have Brothers of Battle? Oh wait... Astartes

The title really does say it all as this truly is an irrelevant, non-issue. This is simply a game where we suspend reality while we are playing. Really could care less if my opponent stated that their Space Marine army was all women...it is their army so they can claim whatever they want. We are already suspending reality, so that extra step is meaningless to all but those who live and die by the "lore" of the 40K universe.

As for all of the heads being men, I would disagree as I have met plenty of women with crew cuts, generally masculine features, and who try to make their appearance as masculine as possible. A head does not need long tresses to make it a female head.

Lastly, those who feel that their models just have to have a more feminine appearance can always kit bash with other games' models and/or modify the models themselves. If GW is not giving you what you want then do it yourself.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Not all monks are the same culturally.

Wasn't there a country that had battle monks? I remember seeing it on extra history but the country escapes me.

I want to say japan.
Because japan

So why aren't there female X-Wing pilots, and why isn't that an issue? (there actually originally was one; it was pulled).

Grey Knights, Space Wolves, White Scars, Blood Angels, et. al. are still all "brotherhoods" dedicated and created by the God-Emperor, which is why we tend to think of them as spacefaring battle monks -- the Knights Templar of the future.

Also, it's worthwhile noting that in English, "monk" refers to a male. So a female monk is... uh.. not a monk It would be like looking for the male nuns. And no, Eric Idle in Nuns on the Run doesn't count

People are actually very upset wth the Star Wars line and its...representation of females currently.

Akiasura wrote:
People are actually very upset wth the Star Wars line and its...representation of females currently.

Until every thing in the world is gender/racially equal, someone somewhere will find something to complain about. What about Disney's line of heros? Can males complain about the fact that disney hasn't done a movie with a Male main character.......since Tarzan?

People will find a way to be offended because they are bored. simple as that. sorry to all those I insulted but ohh well

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

There's also the general tone of a profoundly fascist and immoral empire in decline, that exists primarily as a distorted corruption of legions of idealized Nietzschean ubermensches... sexism is built into the whole thematic concept of 40k.

That's not to say you can't have nuanced and non-sexist characterization of women inside of a thematically sexist world -- that's basically Mad Men, right?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Or the fact that the Big-E is sexist because dystopian future. Should we have Brothers of Battle? Oh wait... Astartes

Actually, Big-E is probably not sexist, the people who have taken over since he was basically put into stasis are. Honestly, the whole Imperium of Man is basically supposed to be a backwards, sexist, bigotted place full of corruption and terrible things.

The Tau are the idealistic and progressive folks who have a merit based system that has sling shotted them to the top.

The Dark Eldar aren't sexist, but they're sex crazed, they're all about sexuality and the concept of alluring but deadly.

Most other things are genderless and have that whole generic gorilla body thing going on.

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Or the fact that the Big-E is sexist because dystopian future. Should we have Brothers of Battle? Oh wait... Astartes

Actually, Big-E is probably not sexist, the people who have taken over since he was basically put into stasis are. Honestly, the whole Imperium of Man is basically supposed to be a backwards, sexist, bigotted place full of corruption and terrible things.

The Tau are the idealistic and progressive folks who have a merit based system that has sling shotted them to the top.

The Dark Eldar aren't sexist, but they're sex crazed, they're all about sexuality and the concept of alluring but deadly.

Most other things are genderless and have that whole generic gorilla body thing going on.

I am just going to laugh at that a little bit

Rey is a Jedi... That's good enough for me.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Or the fact that the Big-E is sexist because dystopian future. Should we have Brothers of Battle? Oh wait... Astartes

Actually, Big-E is probably not sexist, the people who have taken over since he was basically put into stasis are. Honestly, the whole Imperium of Man is basically supposed to be a backwards, sexist, bigotted place full of corruption and terrible things.

The Tau are the idealistic and progressive folks who have a merit based system that has sling shotted them to the top.

The Dark Eldar aren't sexist, but they're sex crazed, they're all about sexuality and the concept of alluring but deadly.

Most other things are genderless and have that whole generic gorilla body thing going on.

I am just going to laugh at that a little bit

Go on...

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Or the fact that the Big-E is sexist because dystopian future. Should we have Brothers of Battle? Oh wait... Astartes

Actually, Big-E is probably not sexist, the people who have taken over since he was basically put into stasis are. Honestly, the whole Imperium of Man is basically supposed to be a backwards, sexist, bigotted place full of corruption and terrible things.

The Tau are the idealistic and progressive folks who have a merit based system that has sling shotted them to the top.

The Dark Eldar aren't sexist, but they're sex crazed, they're all about sexuality and the concept of alluring but deadly.

Most other things are genderless and have that whole generic gorilla body thing going on.

I am just going to laugh at that a little bit

Go on...

They have a merit system of sorts, but you are predetermined to serve in a certain field because you were bred for that field. You have no say about it, even if you happen to be better in another caste. Recent fluff also turned most Tau commanders into Donkey Caves, except Farsight. I believe he was a respectable leader.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Or the fact that the Big-E is sexist because dystopian future. Should we have Brothers of Battle? Oh wait... Astartes

Actually, Big-E is probably not sexist, the people who have taken over since he was basically put into stasis are. Honestly, the whole Imperium of Man is basically supposed to be a backwards, sexist, bigotted place full of corruption and terrible things.

The Tau are the idealistic and progressive folks who have a merit based system that has sling shotted them to the top.

The Dark Eldar aren't sexist, but they're sex crazed, they're all about sexuality and the concept of alluring but deadly.

Most other things are genderless and have that whole generic gorilla body thing going on.

I am just going to laugh at that a little bit

Go on...

They have a merit system of sorts, but you are predetermined to serve in a certain field because you were bred for that field. You have no say about it, even if you happen to be better in another caste. Recent fluff also turned most Tau commanders into Donkey Caves, except Farsight. I believe he was a respectable leader.

They're not at all restricted to their caste, it just happens that because they're raised and bred for it that they generally stay in that class because that's what they specialize in. However, we have Tau like O'vesa who is an Earth Caste but goes onto the battlefield in a Riptide suit, along with any Riptide that has an Earth Caste Pilot Array. Heck, you can even be non-Tau and still advance in the ranks of Tau, living as a full Tau citizen, there are even Gue'vessa on the home planet of T'au just living it up. You also have a lot of say in where you fall in a caste or how you move around the society, characters like Dark Strider or Fireblades are literally characters who decided they wanted to be in a specific part of their caste, and they're fully allowed to be. Again, it's not that they are just given a class and stay in it, it's that the long term breeding has lead them to be extremely specialized, so in almost every case it's rare that they'd be able to transition caste, but we've seen then behave as other castes on occasion, as in the case of O'vesa.

Their generals are fine, Shadowsun is uh-mazing.

well, 1) he spent way to much time complaining about the lack of girl space marines, 2) yeah, its odd that GW doesn't make plastic cadians (barring that female models would ONLY have a different head for it to remain "non sexist" as they would all be in the same armor, and 3) really? of all things to complain about in the world, he chose "no girls in warhammer"?

Beyond that, if you REALLY wanted female models, fething make them or buy 3rd party. This is someone whining for the sake of having something to whine about.

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Or the fact that the Big-E is sexist because dystopian future. Should we have Brothers of Battle? Oh wait... Astartes

Actually, Big-E is probably not sexist, the people who have taken over since he was basically put into stasis are. Honestly, the whole Imperium of Man is basically supposed to be a backwards, sexist, bigotted place full of corruption and terrible things.

The Tau are the idealistic and progressive folks who have a merit based system that has sling shotted them to the top.

The Dark Eldar aren't sexist, but they're sex crazed, they're all about sexuality and the concept of alluring but deadly.

Most other things are genderless and have that whole generic gorilla body thing going on.

I am just going to laugh at that a little bit

Go on...

They have a merit system of sorts, but you are predetermined to serve in a certain field because you were bred for that field. You have no say about it, even if you happen to be better in another caste. Recent fluff also turned most Tau commanders into Donkey Caves, except Farsight. I believe he was a respectable leader.

They're not at all restricted to their caste, it just happens that because they're raised and bred for it that they generally stay in that class because that's what they specialize in. However, we have Tau like O'vesa who is an Earth Caste but goes onto the battlefield in a Riptide suit, along with any Riptide that has an Earth Caste Pilot Array. Heck, you can even be non-Tau and still advance in the ranks of Tau, living as a full Tau citizen, there are even Gue'vessa on the home planet of T'au just living it up. You also have a lot of say in where you fall in a caste or how you move around the society, characters like Dark Strider or Fireblades are literally characters who decided they wanted to be in a specific part of their caste, and they're fully allowed to be. Again, it's not that they are just given a class and stay in it, it's that the long term breeding has lead them to be extremely specialized, so in almost every case it's rare that they'd be able to transition caste, but we've seen then behave as other castes on occasion, as in the case of O'vesa.

Their generals are fine, Shadowsun is uh-mazing.

O'vesa is Farsight Enclaves I thought. Didn't Farsight say the Greater Good was a lie?

(also, I think that who ever added the female heads to the new Tau kit needs a promotion. My buddy used to have nothing but the same male head on all his Shas'ui. It was disturbing.)

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Or the fact that the Big-E is sexist because dystopian future. Should we have Brothers of Battle? Oh wait... Astartes

Actually, Big-E is probably not sexist, the people who have taken over since he was basically put into stasis are. Honestly, the whole Imperium of Man is basically supposed to be a backwards, sexist, bigotted place full of corruption and terrible things.

The Tau are the idealistic and progressive folks who have a merit based system that has sling shotted them to the top.

The Dark Eldar aren't sexist, but they're sex crazed, they're all about sexuality and the concept of alluring but deadly.

Most other things are genderless and have that whole generic gorilla body thing going on.

I am just going to laugh at that a little bit

Go on...

They have a merit system of sorts, but you are predetermined to serve in a certain field because you were bred for that field. You have no say about it, even if you happen to be better in another caste. Recent fluff also turned most Tau commanders into Donkey Caves, except Farsight. I believe he was a respectable leader.

They're not at all restricted to their caste, it just happens that because they're raised and bred for it that they generally stay in that class because that's what they specialize in. However, we have Tau like O'vesa who is an Earth Caste but goes onto the battlefield in a Riptide suit, along with any Riptide that has an Earth Caste Pilot Array. Heck, you can even be non-Tau and still advance in the ranks of Tau, living as a full Tau citizen, there are even Gue'vessa on the home planet of T'au just living it up. You also have a lot of say in where you fall in a caste or how you move around the society, characters like Dark Strider or Fireblades are literally characters who decided they wanted to be in a specific part of their caste, and they're fully allowed to be. Again, it's not that they are just given a class and stay in it, it's that the long term breeding has lead them to be extremely specialized, so in almost every case it's rare that they'd be able to transition caste, but we've seen then behave as other castes on occasion, as in the case of O'vesa.

Their generals are fine, Shadowsun is uh-mazing.

O'vesa is Farsight Enclaves I thought. Didn't Farsight say the Greater Good was a lie?

(also, I think that who ever added the female heads to the new Tau kit needs a promotion. My buddy used to have nothing but the same male head on all his Shas'ui. It was disturbing.)

Kind of, sort of, I think it was more that the Ethereals were a lie, and they very much are because at the end of the day they're still very fallible people. Heck, Aun'va was more upset that the FSE was doing well, without his guidance, more than anything else. Just because the Tau are progressive and idealized doesn't mean they are without fault, it just means they show a lot of good qualities. There is no such thing as someone, or some group, that's all good or all bad, everyone and everything will have some amount of flaws.

(Yup, that was a very positive change and it would be nice to make those changes to future guard kits. Though I think it's fine leaving Space Marines all male, and just supporting Sororitos more.)

I honestly wonder what would happen if they made plastic sisters that were modular like Space marines were... The fan base would eat those up.

As someone who enjoyed Sisters when they came out in third edition with a codex, I'd be on board for buying them up.

It's really stupid they don't support Sisters, because frankly they're already just shy of being an amazing army, since all they're missing is just some variety in their units. They have a ton of special weapons, but they're all the same special weapons, they have one of the best special characters, but they're units need some love, they have a great tank, but then no interesting special units.

I mean heck, look at how much discussion there is on here every time a Sisters thread pops up. I think everyone wants more Sisters, they're a fun army. I'm pretty sure everyone here wants female IG heads too, there's no loss to any of this, that's what makes these articles so frustrating, they just undermine the wants of the player base with strange claims of sexism.

Edit: Were sisters around in the 30k? That would be an amazing place to put them for a test run. Plus it would give me that much more reason to pick them up.

 Tinkrr wrote:
As someone who enjoyed Sisters when they came out in third edition with a codex, I'd be on board for buying them up.

It's really stupid they don't support Sisters, because frankly they're already just shy of being an amazing army, since all they're missing is just some variety in their units. They have a ton of special weapons, but they're all the same special weapons, they have one of the best special characters, but they're units need some love, they have a great tank, but then no interesting special units.

I mean heck, look at how much discussion there is on here every time a Sisters thread pops up. I think everyone wants more Sisters, they're a fun army. I'm pretty sure everyone here wants female IG heads too, there's no loss to any of this, that's what makes these articles so frustrating, they just undermine the wants of the player base with strange claims of sexism.

Edit: Were sisters around in the 30k? That would be an amazing place to put them for a test run. Plus it would give me that much more reason to pick them up.

I believe sisters came after words, after Goge Vandire and the Brides of the Emperor. There were Sisters of Silence, an all female army of Culexes assassins.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:
As someone who enjoyed Sisters when they came out in third edition with a codex, I'd be on board for buying them up.

It's really stupid they don't support Sisters, because frankly they're already just shy of being an amazing army, since all they're missing is just some variety in their units. They have a ton of special weapons, but they're all the same special weapons, they have one of the best special characters, but they're units need some love, they have a great tank, but then no interesting special units.

I mean heck, look at how much discussion there is on here every time a Sisters thread pops up. I think everyone wants more Sisters, they're a fun army. I'm pretty sure everyone here wants female IG heads too, there's no loss to any of this, that's what makes these articles so frustrating, they just undermine the wants of the player base with strange claims of sexism.

Edit: Were sisters around in the 30k? That would be an amazing place to put them for a test run. Plus it would give me that much more reason to pick them up.

I believe sisters came after words, after Goge Vandire and the Brides of the Emperor. There were Sisters of Silence, an all female army of Culexes assassins.

I wouldn't go that far. they were an all female army of blanks, but no training beyond SoB, and with basically the same equipment.

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
But Space marines can't be female because... Space monks.

Space wolves are space monks? White Scars are space monks? Damn. Who would have known?

Or the fact that the Big-E is sexist because dystopian future. Should we have Brothers of Battle? Oh wait... Astartes

Actually, Big-E is probably not sexist, the people who have taken over since he was basically put into stasis are. Honestly, the whole Imperium of Man is basically supposed to be a backwards, sexist, bigotted place full of corruption and terrible things.

The Tau are the idealistic and progressive folks who have a merit based system that has sling shotted them to the top.

The Dark Eldar aren't sexist, but they're sex crazed, they're all about sexuality and the concept of alluring but deadly.

Most other things are genderless and have that whole generic gorilla body thing going on.

I am just going to laugh at that a little bit

Go on...

They have a merit system of sorts, but you are predetermined to serve in a certain field because you were bred for that field. You have no say about it, even if you happen to be better in another caste. Recent fluff also turned most Tau commanders into Donkey Caves, except Farsight. I believe he was a respectable leader.

They're not at all restricted to their caste, it just happens that because they're raised and bred for it that they generally stay in that class because that's what they specialize in. However, we have Tau like O'vesa who is an Earth Caste but goes onto the battlefield in a Riptide suit, along with any Riptide that has an Earth Caste Pilot Array. Heck, you can even be non-Tau and still advance in the ranks of Tau, living as a full Tau citizen, there are even Gue'vessa on the home planet of T'au just living it up. You also have a lot of say in where you fall in a caste or how you move around the society, characters like Dark Strider or Fireblades are literally characters who decided they wanted to be in a specific part of their caste, and they're fully allowed to be. Again, it's not that they are just given a class and stay in it, it's that the long term breeding has lead them to be extremely specialized, so in almost every case it's rare that they'd be able to transition caste, but we've seen then behave as other castes on occasion, as in the case of O'vesa.

Their generals are fine, Shadowsun is uh-mazing.

In the Farsight Enclave which is sort of rebelling against the caste system of the Ethereals' rule, isn't it?

See, that would be pretty cool to see, and could give a lot more identity to the army than melta-flamers. Plus it would be cool to see what they gave an army of blanks back in the past, seeing as even the IG had some rather fancy equipment that outshines a lot of what is around in 40k.

Yeh I really want sisters to have more than just plasma pistols as well. Their close range would work well with something like the plasma caviler while helping them stay away from marines by not just tossing them a plasma gun.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:
As someone who enjoyed Sisters when they came out in third edition with a codex, I'd be on board for buying them up.

It's really stupid they don't support Sisters, because frankly they're already just shy of being an amazing army, since all they're missing is just some variety in their units. They have a ton of special weapons, but they're all the same special weapons, they have one of the best special characters, but they're units need some love, they have a great tank, but then no interesting special units.

I mean heck, look at how much discussion there is on here every time a Sisters thread pops up. I think everyone wants more Sisters, they're a fun army. I'm pretty sure everyone here wants female IG heads too, there's no loss to any of this, that's what makes these articles so frustrating, they just undermine the wants of the player base with strange claims of sexism.

Edit: Were sisters around in the 30k? That would be an amazing place to put them for a test run. Plus it would give me that much more reason to pick them up.

I believe sisters came after words, after Goge Vandire and the Brides of the Emperor. There were Sisters of Silence, an all female army of Culexes assassins.

Sisters of Battle WERE the Brides of the Emperor and were the Daughter of the Emperor warrior monastic cult based on a remote low tech agri-world before that.