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GW has a great catalogue of fantasy plastics. Lots of it was stuff that was on my "someday" list.

Indeed, the same with me and Bretonnians.

Just goes to show, no time like the present.

Bretonnians? Easily covered by historical plastics. Problem solved

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Bretonnians? Easily covered by historical plastics. Problem solved

Historical plastics are often better quality too. Fireforge Miniatures Tuetonics and Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses for instance.

 Bottle wrote:
Wow, almost everything that became a Last Chancer at the start of the weekend has already sold out.

Could it almost suggest there was demand for generic fantasy humans, elves and dwarves!?

Not necessarily. Couple years back, the owner of one of my local FLGS was in Memphis and was given a tour of the US facilities. One item he noted, the stuff that was direct only, they only had 2 - 3 in stock in the US warehouse. That is how low demand was for those items. Most of these items that were cut were direct only for a while now, so there were probably not more than a dozen or so of each item world wide in stock at GW.

@Fenrir & Shadow Captain, very true but for future GW approved Bretonnians I'm going to have to kitbash.

Which is not a bad thing really, lots more variety and creativity.

 silent25 wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Wow, almost everything that became a Last Chancer at the start of the weekend has already sold out.

Could it almost suggest there was demand for generic fantasy humans, elves and dwarves!?

Not necessarily. Couple years back, the owner of one of my local FLGS was in Memphis and was given a tour of the US facilities. One item he noted, the stuff that was direct only, they only had 2 - 3 in stock in the US warehouse. That is how low demand was for those items. Most of these items that were cut were direct only for a while now, so there were probably not more than a dozen or so of each item world wide in stock at GW.

That is interesting. It would certainly explain how fast things have been selling out. I can't believe there are more than half a dozen people in the world who would buy those hideous treekin models. The plastic sets would presumably have a larger inventory which is why they have been hanging around a bit longer.

I was actually tempted to start a lot of those armies.

This made my wallet and my bucket list so happy. On the plus side I am SOO glad I got the last of my bretonnia fix last year.

Baron Klatz wrote:
@Fenrir & Shadow Captain, very true but for future GW approved Bretonnians I'm going to have to kitbash.

Which is not a bad thing really, lots more variety and creativity.

GW approved? Meaningless concept

Not if you want to be in their official tourneys or at least post on their facebook.

That and I really just don't like most of the other models out there but that's a personal thing.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Not if you want to be in their official tourneys or at least post on their facebook.

That's some harsh drawbacks right there

Non-existent tournament and posting on facebook page where you'll get far less viewers than having a plog on Dakka. Not something you'd want to miss, eh.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Not if you want to be in their official tourneys or at least post on their facebook.

That and I really just don't like most of the other models out there but that's a personal thing.

What tournaments? Is GW even doing tournaments for Age of Sigmar? Doesn't seem like a game that would work for a tournament, theres too much house ruling needed on the part of the organisers. They have to basically fix the game.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Bretonnians? Easily covered by historical plastics. Problem solved

Historical plastics are often better quality too. Fireforge Miniatures Tuetonics and Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses for instance.

And also, you know, the wrong scale entirely. Even GW's Bretonnians were barely in-scale with more modern human fantasy plastics, and they still looked totally out of place next to historicals.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Bretonnians? Easily covered by historical plastics. Problem solved

Historical plastics are often better quality too. Fireforge Miniatures Tuetonics and Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses for instance.

And also, you know, the wrong scale entirely. Even GW's Bretonnians were barely in-scale with more modern human fantasy plastics, and they still looked totally out of place next to historicals.

Answer = don't buy the poorly scaled GW stuff.


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Baron Klatz wrote:
Not if you want to be in their official tourneys or at least post on their facebook.

Oh man, seriously?? I can't do that? World. Ended.

Haha, just my personal preference for GW's models then I suppose.

A lot of their models sell poorly now, so low inventory, and they make the decision to dump them.

But...lets look at factors that affect other games or products:

-Advertising. NONE. Unless you go to the GW website, you don't know they exist.

-Not in stores. Neither their own, or FLGS.

-FLGS will not be flogging these. We have to order 100.00 in product from the website, so i can't just order the model you need. Plus, crappy discount.

-No game. They killed the game these go to. Models with less use have less sales.

So, a bit of a no brainer, once they started down the path of killing WFB, of course they get less and less demand for models and then cancel them entirely. It's really amazing though how other companies can keep models in print for years and turn a profit on them. GW somehow has forgotten how to do that. The accountants trim it all away until no game is left, and wonder why we don't buy.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Bretonnians? Easily covered by historical plastics. Problem solved

Historical plastics are often better quality too. Fireforge Miniatures Tuetonics and Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses for instance.

And also, you know, the wrong scale entirely. Even GW's Bretonnians were barely in-scale with more modern human fantasy plastics, and they still looked totally out of place next to historicals.

Answer = don't buy the poorly scaled GW stuff.


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Baron Klatz wrote:
Not if you want to be in their official tourneys or at least post on their facebook.

Oh man, seriously?? I can't do that? World. Ended.

GW apologists literally can rationalize everything.

Gw promises not to kill of armies. 2 armies are basically now dead due to no figures. having rules for something and selling of the only figures for it effectively killed those two armies. Im honestly surprised sisters are not in the sell of period yet.

and also not sure beastmen will stay either.

Oh but use x y or z. And free rules for age of blandmar... Pass thanks its not WFB its awful just awful. like those new creme eggs.

I only hope GW does Bretonians for Mordhiem. but knowing GW it will just be stomcasts again.

 Bottle wrote:
Wow, almost everything that became a Last Chancer at the start of the weekend has already sold out.

Could it almost suggest there was demand for generic fantasy humans, elves and dwarves!?

A lot of it was sold out before it even moved to Last Chance To Buy.

That's one of the things I hate about the LCTB fiasco the most: it wasn't even really a chance for many of the items. If they had warned us while they still had some stock left, slowly phasing the models out over a couple months, it would have given a lot of us a chance to buy that last box of wild riders or save up for Valten. Instead, we only find out the items are discontinued when they are already gone, and we are screwed if we wanted to finish off an army.


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For that matter, are there any decently heroic scale plastic knights on the market that will look good with Bretonnians heads on them?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

For that matter, are there any decently heroic scale plastic knights on the market that will look good with Bretonnians heads on them?

In my experience, the bretonnian heads (especially commoners) fit rather well on most 28mm historicals. The GW 'heroic bulkyness' is mostly a problem when trying to mix in entire models of them.

This guy has a lot of good comparasions:

http://psychosispc-themadhouseworkshop.blogspot.se/2012/03/fireforge-games-teutonic-knights-kit.html


http://psychosispc-themadhouseworkshop.blogspot.se/2011/12/gripping-beast-plastic-viking-hirdmen.html

The minis have been there for years, 10+, yelling at GW for not selling them anymore is harsh.

Waaargh wrote:
The minis have been there for years, 10+, yelling at GW for not selling them anymore is harsh.

better scrap space marines then. GW have basically just edited the same kit for at least that long.

Waaargh wrote:
The minis have been there for years, 10+, yelling at GW for not selling them anymore is harsh.

GW redesigned Necrons and they flew off the shelves. GW redesigned Dark Eldar and they flew off the shelves. GW even did a minor redesign to Tau and they're still flying off the shelves. I'm firmly of the mindset that had GW put the same effort into Fantasy they would have sold more than they did.

All new in box...

Edited by RiTides - Please don't make posts only linking to Ebay auctions in News & Rumors

Whelp. This is certainly a kick to the head.

My only issue is they have removed alot of iconic units and characters now.
My dwarves have lost more than 50% of their artillery choices.
Miners are gone too.

Only real bug I have is I still needed to buy a flame cannon and thorgrim grudgebearer.
So I'll now be paying premium eBay prices.
May need a 2nd bolt thrower now too.




Just hope they are leaving the lizards alone now as that's one thing that would be the final straw to me.

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:
Bretonnians? Easily covered by historical plastics. Problem solved

Historical plastics are often better quality too. Fireforge Miniatures Tuetonics and Perry Miniatures Wars of the Roses for instance.

And also, you know, the wrong scale entirely. Even GW's Bretonnians were barely in-scale with more modern human fantasy plastics, and they still looked totally out of place next to historicals.

Answer = don't buy the poorly scaled GW stuff.

Damn, what a stunning insight, now all I need to do is create an entirely new mathematics, use it to devise a workable concept of time travel, invent a machine that enables me to exploit said concept, then travel back into the past to tell my five year old self that rather than starting a collection of GW figures for the setting I found interesting and which would grow into my favourite fantasy world, I should wait and base my collection on historicals plastics that wouldn't exist for another 15 years. Genius!

Or perhaps you meant I should throw away the thousands of pounds worth and thousands of hours of effort worth of models I presently own and just pull a couple of grand out of my arse to rebuy a vaguely-equivalent amount of models from historicals companies? That would also be a supremely reasonable and extremely clever suggestion

I use myself as an example, but of course I'm hardly alone in already having a pretty substantial collection of GW figures, and I'm also hardly alone in preferring to maintain a consistent scale and aesthetic across that collection regardless of which company I buy the models from. You don't like heroic scale - that's nice, some of us do, or are willing to tolerate it because of other aspects of the design we like. Clamber down off that skyscraper-esque high horse of yours before you suffer oxygen deprivation.

So sad to see so many fantasy models going.

Some I really don't get, the plastic high elf bolt thrower?

My hope would be that we see new versions of some of the older kits. For instance a dual high elf spearmen / archers kit is long overdue. But I can't help but feel even if it did happen the new AoS styling would make them incompatible with anybodies WHFB army.

Held a small wake for Morathi a few days a go, she will be missed.


Sad to see so many go, but its understandable, they belong to a world that no longer exists, just hoping what ever comes out the Dark Aelf pile (when ever they get around to doing them) catches my interest, but its looking doubtful at this point.

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Held a small wake for Morathi a few days a go, she will be missed.


Sad to see so many go, but its understandable, they belong to a world that no longer exists, just hoping what ever comes out the Dark Aelf pile (when ever they get around to doing them) catches my interest, but its looking doubtful at this point.

Don't get too teary-eyed, she's still around. She's Malerion's high priestess from what little I've been able to find about the Shadowkin.

The AOS is just way too bland for my liking. I always enjoyed reading white dwarf articles like battle reports and especially stuff about Lore. I liked the tale of 4 gamers way back... the Stirland river patrol force with empire militias modelled to look like they're wading through a river, bugmans brewery, the big siege of middenheim battle report with the gigantic walls, the lustria skirmish campaign with bretonnian knights.

As a teenager 10 years ago i could only invest in one game to start with and chose lord of the rings (no regrets, I still think its one of the best gw war games). Then I started on 5th ed 40k splitting black reach with a friend. But I was always interested in warhammer fantasy too.

But over the years warhammer 40k evolved in ways I disliked, and gw in general grew extremely expensive, and white dwarf devolved into a shadow of its formed self. So my interest in 40k and fantasy waned, and I gravitated back to lord of the rings, and then non gw stuff (currently running z dungeons and dragons campaign).

Now they've nukd the fantasy setting and replaced it with something more bland and simplistic, with nowhere near as much of the richness as what came before.

The only Age of Sigmar models I can ever for see myself purchasing are some of the sigmarines but only ic i ever need Aasimar angels for dungeons and dragons.