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 Grimtuff wrote:

 skoffs wrote:
Seriously, though, it's a mess.
They really should have done it on a week by week, army by army basis.
ie. "Alright, guys, this week is Blood Angels! Please post your BA related questions below. You have until Saturday to ask your questions (ONE per person. Ask two and we'll just skip you) and then we'll move on to the next army."

Doing it like that actually acknowledges that there are MASSIVE problems with the game though.

You'd get the same muppets asking stupid questions / trolling / "venting" regardless of how they did it. Facebook is hardly a bastion of reasoned discourse. They should've just done something through the stores instead.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Yea instead of being happy that they are communicating and doing FAQ's plenty of people are asking obviously unrelated questions to ensure this is a failure. There are plenty of silly or flat outdated rules and costs but this should be seized upon to ask for clear answers to ambiguous rules.

It's a great step in the right directions, let's hope the comments don't blow up into a mess.

its 2 hours and 750 comments in and already its full of turds asking useless questions and people writing paragraphs about their homebrew rules. Its going as well as expected, a dumpster fire.

You also get people trying to answer when they don't understand half of the question.

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Yea instead of being happy that they are communicating and doing FAQ's plenty of people are asking obviously unrelated questions to ensure this is a failure. There are plenty of silly or flat outdated rules and costs but this should be seized upon to ask for clear answers to ambiguous rules.

It's a great step in the right directions, let's hope the comments don't blow up into a mess.

its 2 hours and 750 comments in and already its full of turds asking useless questions and people writing paragraphs about their homebrew rules. Its going as well as expected, a dumpster fire.

Yea I noticed lol. People want answers but they are refusing to be reasonable. Odds are this ends in a mess with no real answers, there is no way in hell I would want to filter through that garbage fire. Would have been easier to collect data from store managers who have already gotten lists of questions from their clients.

 Ghaz wrote:
You also get people trying to answer when they don't understand half of the question.

So much of this. Shame FB doesn't offer a way to turn off replies to comments.


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 Red Corsair wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Yea instead of being happy that they are communicating and doing FAQ's plenty of people are asking obviously unrelated questions to ensure this is a failure. There are plenty of silly or flat outdated rules and costs but this should be seized upon to ask for clear answers to ambiguous rules.

It's a great step in the right directions, let's hope the comments don't blow up into a mess.

its 2 hours and 750 comments in and already its full of turds asking useless questions and people writing paragraphs about their homebrew rules. Its going as well as expected, a dumpster fire.

Yea I noticed lol. People want answers but they are refusing to be reasonable. Odds are this ends in a mess with no real answers, there is no way in hell I would want to filter through that garbage fire. Would have been easier to collect data from store managers who have already gotten lists of questions from their clients.

Or, you know, look at the emails received at their dedicated "FAQ" email address.

I asked if the warp spider flicker jump was meant to be unlimited or limited to once per shooting phase.

I suggest we just try to thumb up the good questions and hope that they can filter through it afterwards. But there are many better ways to do this, yeah. Atleast their trying!

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Yea instead of being happy that they are communicating and doing FAQ's plenty of people are asking obviously unrelated questions to ensure this is a failure. There are plenty of silly or flat outdated rules and costs but this should be seized upon to ask for clear answers to ambiguous rules.

It's a great step in the right directions, let's hope the comments don't blow up into a mess.

its 2 hours and 750 comments in and already its full of turds asking useless questions and people writing paragraphs about their homebrew rules. Its going as well as expected, a dumpster fire.

Yea I noticed lol. People want answers but they are refusing to be reasonable. Odds are this ends in a mess with no real answers, there is no way in hell I would want to filter through that garbage fire. Would have been easier to collect data from store managers who have already gotten lists of questions from their clients.

In my experience even asking some of the more glaring rules queries to GW staff results in comments of "Idiots on the internet with too much time on their hands wanting to argue anything". Or words to that effect.

skarsol wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
You also get people trying to answer when they don't understand half of the question.

So much of this. Shame FB doesn't offer a way to turn off replies to comments.


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 Red Corsair wrote:

 Ravenous D wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Yea instead of being happy that they are communicating and doing FAQ's plenty of people are asking obviously unrelated questions to ensure this is a failure. There are plenty of silly or flat outdated rules and costs but this should be seized upon to ask for clear answers to ambiguous rules.

It's a great step in the right directions, let's hope the comments don't blow up into a mess.

its 2 hours and 750 comments in and already its full of turds asking useless questions and people writing paragraphs about their homebrew rules. Its going as well as expected, a dumpster fire.

Yea I noticed lol. People want answers but they are refusing to be reasonable. Odds are this ends in a mess with no real answers, there is no way in hell I would want to filter through that garbage fire. Would have been easier to collect data from store managers who have already gotten lists of questions from their clients.

Or, you know, look at the emails received at their dedicated "FAQ" email address.

I am honestly surprised they didn't simply hyperlink an email address for users to submit questions. I get that having them all viewable in theory should cut down on some redundancy but realistically nobody is going to read through thousands of posts before asking their own question. Actually, the smartest route they could have gone is to simply download the ITC, ETC and NOVA FAQ's and just use their questions but with GW's official answers to them.

Asking people openly for rules questions is not the right way to go. Im starting to sympathize with GW anytime they step forward to address the public because after 24 years in this hobby I have to say a majority of people in it are useless goob gaks that couldn't tell a rulebook from crayon.

They need to ask a dedicate group of people that actually play the game. They could have easily approached frontline and filtered out their stupidity of the ITC. The work is already done and anyone that is knowledgeable about 40k could tell you what's up.

Oh well. It was a good effort.

This may not be the best way, but it is the most visible. This is being done to SHOW us that they are willing to listen for PR.

I will assume that they will actually go through it, because why be negative?

I added the one rules problem that has been nagging at me for YEARS!!! Ever since the rule was introduced in 5E if I remember correctly.
Feel free to like my post, maybe they will take the 10 most liked questions or something instead of having to read through that hellscape.
No idea how to link my comment or if it's even possible, just search for Daniel Karlsson and you will find it.

And NO, this question has never been answered and regardless of what "you" think is the right answer people will disagree with you. I'd rule it that skimmers can't deepstrike mishap from landing on friendly or enemy models but when I brought this up in the rules section I got shouted down with that deepstrike doesn't count as movement (though for some god forsaken reason they still claimed it counted as having moved).

This rule is a game changer, perhaps the rule that could have the biggest impact in the game and how it's played.
Monoliths could now deepstrike without fear of mishap, DE could deepstrike more aggressively and so could everyone else with deepstriking skimmers. Who else other than DE and Necrons have skimmers than can deepstrike though?

Daniel Karlsson This is one of the most important and game changing rules questions that hasn't been answered since the rule was introduced in 5th Edition.
SKIMMERS
MOVING SKIMMERS - Last line
"If a Skimmer is forced to end its move over friendly or enemy models, move the Skimmer the minimum distance so that no models are left underneath it."

When can this happen? Only time in the game that I can think of is during deepstrike. Does this mean that Skimmers can not Deepstrike Mishap from scattering onto friendly or enemy models?
You still mishap if you scatter off the table but not on friendly or enemy models.
I've been told this is not the case because deepstrike does NOT count as movement, it counts as having moved but NOT movement.
Please clarify when this can happen and if deepstrike counts as movement or not.

 DarkBlack wrote:
This may not be the best way, but it is the most visible. This is being done to SHOW us that they are willing to listen for PR.

I will assume that they will actually go through it, because why be negative?

Oh I agree, its awesome GW is taking the effort. Its just not going to be a productive use of their time. Like others have already said, just go to ITC, ETC, and NOVA FAQs and just filter out the dumb.

That Skimmer question has been asked at least 5 times in that post, so it's not just you.

The only query Ive had recently was the Patriarch/psychic shriek thing, otherwise I mostly play with opponents mature enough to work out disagreements or, at worst, dice it off.

On the plus side, yes this does have much more visibility than just asking for submissions by email, and by collating the results into new FAQs it provides a consistent answer, as opposed to a half-dozen email responses sent to individual people that may conflict or be internally inconsistent.

On the minus side, people are stupid, and they get stupider in groups. There is every chance actual, useful questions will get swamped by the meaningless chaff. I'm old enough to remember the Official GW forums back in the day and their gargantuan, meandering FAQ threads that, while they occasionally had welcome, insightful input from the devs, all too often devolved into a baying mob of nonsense. I'm sure they played more than a small part in GW's long hiatus from interacting with customers online

 Ravenous D wrote:

 DarkBlack wrote:
This may not be the best way, but it is the most visible. This is being done to SHOW us that they are willing to listen for PR.

I will assume that they will actually go through it, because why be negative?

Oh I agree, its awesome GW is taking the effort. Its just not going to be a productive use of their time. Like others have already said, just go to ITC, ETC, and NOVA FAQs and just filter out the dumb.

Perhaps they already have the FaQ ready, and put on a show.
Its also a way to see how many people they can lure to their FB.
Cynical suspicions aside, the whole FB thing and interaction with the customers is actually great news!

I would hope they have that much forethought to just put it up there for a show and get their FAQs from people that actually have a brain in their heads free from the effects of paint chips and lodged crayons.

Good someone asked the Hunter Cadre question about Coordinated Firepower.

If I go in a store and someone stinks, do my nurgle/ pestilential troops get a bonus in game?

"Is the Wraithknight's extremely low cost just a misprint?"

I'm not willing to reactivate my Facebook right now for a variety of reasons, but has anyone asked about the Tau Hunter Contingent and how special rules are supposed to interact with the squad-joining mechanic (in an intelligent way)?

This is absolutely great, there's a whole bunch of positively angry grognards trying to police people's questions. The comedy writes itself

Threw in the squadron tank shock dilemma.

The amount of people who don't read the rulebook are freaking staggering haha

"Can Centurions ride in Drop Pods?"

MilkmanAl wrote:
I'm not willing to reactivate my Facebook right now for a variety of reasons, but has anyone asked about the Tau Hunter Contingent and how special rules are supposed to interact with the squad-joining mechanic (in an intelligent way)?

I am also not on Facebook, but expect the answer to this question to be something like "we don't see a problem here, but if your opponent agree....."

Requizen wrote:
The amount of people who don't read the rulebook are freaking staggering haha

"Can Centurions ride in Drop Pods?"

But can they ride on them! Yee haw!

Has anyone asked about 1+ fnp because that's another ganky rule.

gungo wrote:
Has anyone asked about 1+ fnp because that's another ganky rule.

atleast a few people have yeh

 Ravenous D wrote:
Asking people openly for rules questions is not the right way to go. Im starting to sympathize with GW anytime they step forward to address the public because after 24 years in this hobby I have to say a majority of people in it are useless goob gaks that couldn't tell a rulebook from crayon.

They need to ask a dedicate group of people that actually play the game. They could have easily approached frontline and filtered out their stupidity of the ITC. The work is already done and anyone that is knowledgeable about 40k could tell you what's up.

Oh well. It was a good effort.

It's absolutely the right thing to do. They are doing what people have been crying out for these last few years and they are making a big public show of it. Win for us, PR win for them. They knew they would have a lot of comments to sift through, but I'm sure they will manage. From what I can see pretty much 75% of the comments are duplicate questions. It doesn't take long to skim over them.

Also for a genuine FAQ the need the 'idiot' questions that are actually explained in the rules,

because they still confuse a lot of players