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...so, I'm about reading to start fielding a Tetrad and I'm trying to wrap my head around the potential psyker powers.

Particularly the Change Discipline summoning a Burning Chariot...

Are they worth a damn?

I've go two NIB Burning Chariots... and I can't decide if I should convert them into herald on Chariots, or the Burning Chariots (to be used in game/or summoned via Change Discipline).

Thoughts?

 whembly wrote:
...so, I'm about reading to start fielding a Tetrad and I'm trying to wrap my head around the potential psyker powers.

Particularly the Change Discipline summoning a Burning Chariot...

Are they worth a damn?

I've go two NIB Burning Chariots... and I can't decide if I should convert them into herald on Chariots, or the Burning Chariots (to be used in game/or summoned via Change Discipline).

Thoughts?

Okay I run tetrad + Screamerstar and it's awesome, honestly you aren't going to summon chariots often though they are awesome in their niche. What you should though do is add some bases and one Burning chariot box gives you 3 Pink horrors, an exalted flamer, Tzherald on disc, and 2 Screamers. It's the best bang for your buck in the whole fing game. I bought 4 to start my Tzeentch army.

As for powers, with tetrad your going to basically be going on telepathy, Daemonology, and biomancy. Summoning will be done by heralds or horrors(at least that's what I do). Tetrad buffs itself and stomps, or doesn't and dies. If you go to the first post and read the tactics link it goes in depth in psyker powers and order to roll them, it's quite helpful when first starting the tetrad. The general theme is invis, shrouding, CE, iron arm, endurance are the priorities though warp speed is awesome. I know it's hard to get all that with only ml3 per prince(barring khorne of course), that's why I suggest reading the link in first post. Just keep in mind the order you make your Rolls at the start pretty much determines the game.


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As for change discipline, pretty much only horrors or heralds will take it, and that depends what I'm fighting.

I have read most of this post now and I'm really interested in playing a tetrad. I have 4 Princes, but no Daemons models, only CSM. I know it isn't optimal, but I don't play tournaments often, usually just casual. I do play KDK sometimes though and so I have a D-thirster. So I'm wondering how best to run a tetrad with CSM. A Cabal would provide 3-5 sorecers for more WC, but can get very expensive. You could probably fit 3 or maybe even 4 decently equipped sorcerers in with a fully buffed tetrad in 1850.


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Another idea I just had, what about the 3 helbrute formation that gives them iwnd and deep strike. Its only around 300 or 350 total points.

TasadarTheMadBear wrote:
I have read most of this post now and I'm really interested in playing a tetrad. I have 4 Princes, but no Daemons models, only CSM. I know it isn't optimal, but I don't play tournaments often, usually just casual. I do play KDK sometimes though and so I have a D-thirster. So I'm wondering how best to run a tetrad with CSM. A Cabal would provide 3-5 sorecers for more WC, but can get very expensive. You could probably fit 3 or maybe even 4 decently equipped sorcerers in with a fully buffed tetrad in 1850.


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Another idea I just had, what about the 3 helbrute formation that gives them iwnd and deep strike. Its only around 300 or 350 total points.

You should look into the Traitor's Hate book. There is a formation that gives you 1 Dark Apostle and 4-9 units of Cultists. All Cultists share the Apostle's Zealot rule within range of him (not sure the range, maybe 12"). Since Cultists are so cheap, you can use them as spare wounds for your Cabal Sorcerers. I would run 3-4 of them all rolling on Malefic for Summoning spam.
That way you can also use that D-Thirster if you roll possession (which I believe the FAQ allows you to conjure ANY Bloodthirster, even the Fearless KDK ones)

So you could have a Tetrad with 1 Dark Apostle, 3-4 Sorcerers in 4 units of Fearless (Zealot) Cultitsts. Make sure to take Spell Familiars for re-roll goodness.

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FAQ lets you summon any of the three names of bloodthirster, but the conjuration power specifies from codex chaos daemons. I don't recall the FAQ changing that part so no KDK thirster.

Fhionnuisce wrote:
FAQ lets you summon any of the three names of bloodthirster, but the conjuration power specifies from codex chaos daemons. I don't recall the FAQ changing that part so no KDK thirster.

Didn't they reprint that one in the Wulfen book? Or am I thinking of something else?

BRB draft FAQ, Psychic Phase section:
"Q: If you play Daemons and you successfully summon a Bloodthirster using the Daemonology psychic powers, what profile will the Bloodthirster have: the one in Codex: Chaos Daemons, or one of the ones in Codex: Khorne Daemonkin?
A:You can choose to use any of the army list entries from Codex: Chaos Daemons, Codex: Khorne Daemonkin or War Zone Fenris: Curse of the Wulfen – but not Skarbrand!"

The only advantage to fielding a Codex: Daemon D-Thirster is the greater rewards, but since a conjured Greater Daemon does not have access to greater rewards, why not conjure the Fearless one for KDK?
So Take the Tetrad, Cabal & Cultist formation, max out on Warp Charges, summon more FMCs. Or if you really want ObSec, just take a CSM CAD with 1 Sorcerer and 2-3 Cultist units, then join the Cabal to those units

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I misremembered that then. Much better!

Oh, and BTW, the cultist formation is called "The Lost and the Damned" and each time a unit is destroyed, roll a 4+ to place them into Ongoing reserves and Outflank them. So that could be a good way to keep bodies on the table for the Tetrad.