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2 choices for me

Vulkan because master craft all the things

And baliel, "DEEP STRIKE READY!"

 G00fySmiley wrote:
for the points cost a elder farseer

strongest overall ghazthraka in the formation where he can waaggh every turn for the 2++

Have they changed that formation? Last I heard, it required a Warboss, and Ghaz is not a "Warboss".

 Happyjew wrote:

 G00fySmiley wrote:
for the points cost a elder farseer

strongest overall ghazthraka in the formation where he can waaggh every turn for the 2++

Have they changed that formation? Last I heard, it required a Warboss, and Ghaz is not a "Warboss".

Its part of the larger Orkcurion now, where as long as you take ghazghkull as part of the Council of WAAAGH! to be your command formation, he gets the benefits of calling a WAAAGH! every turn including the first. One of the few things that came out sort of okay from the revised Ghazghkull supplement.

 Grimskul wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
Ork mek 15 points. Only dark eldar can do better.


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 Grimskul wrote:
...an Ork Warboss with the Lucky Stikk, who is pretty much able to tank anything that isn't AP2,.....

When was the last game your opponent did not have anything AP2 ?

Necrons don't have that much AP2 in abundance. Most of the time its mass gauss and things like wraiths, which granted do have occasional AP2 via rending but since they can't challenge I LoS all the rends onto the boyz and tank the rest on him. Lychguard are rarely seen in my meta (with warscythes at least) and he uses Zandrekh so no warscythes either from his Overlord HQ. At most he might sometimes run a judicator battalion but I handle them the same way as I do wraiths.

Isn't a warscychte ap1 S7 on every necron destroyer / overlord, seems to me like they would just challenge you and cut you in half.

 oldzoggy wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
Ork mek 15 points. Only dark eldar can do better.


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 Grimskul wrote:
...an Ork Warboss with the Lucky Stikk, who is pretty much able to tank anything that isn't AP2,.....

When was the last game your opponent did not have anything AP2 ?

Necrons don't have that much AP2 in abundance. Most of the time its mass gauss and things like wraiths, which granted do have occasional AP2 via rending but since they can't challenge I LoS all the rends onto the boyz and tank the rest on him. Lychguard are rarely seen in my meta (with warscythes at least) and he uses Zandrekh so no warscythes either from his Overlord HQ. At most he might sometimes run a judicator battalion but I handle them the same way as I do wraiths.

Isn't a warscychte ap1 S7 on every necron destroyer / overlord, seems to me like they would just challenge you and cut you in half.

Warscythes are the go-to wargear for DYI Necron HQ Lords but Zandrekh doesn't come with one (he has a staff of light) and in the instances where he does take an HQ with it, I always have either the Nob or other mook take the challenge for me. That's assuming that the Necron Lord catches me in combat since short of the veil of darkness or a catacomb command barge he doesn't have access to the transport mobility of a MAW. Also, since my MAW typically has a Painboy as well in his unit sometimes I just go balls deep and accept the challenge, Having only 3 attacks for the Necron Lord means your MAW has a reasonable chance of surviving.

 Sitpaintandplay wrote:
What's you number one powerhouse HQ choice and why?

My Emperor's Champion.

Not because it's a powerhouse, but because I've never seen it fail to make back double it's points in kills.
Many rages are had when I get to use him.

Dark artisan Haemonculus. A beastly WL trait and two monstrous body guards

5th edition - Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf.
3.5 Chaos Slannesh Deamon Prince.

Still run them both in my games.

Tau Commander. Easily. Though a Cadre Fireblade/Ethereal can fit niche builds well. I wish the Tau had more Command Suit varieties or something. It's a little boring always taking the same thing.

 oldzoggy wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

 oldzoggy wrote:
Ork mek 15 points. Only dark eldar can do better.


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 Grimskul wrote:
...an Ork Warboss with the Lucky Stikk, who is pretty much able to tank anything that isn't AP2,.....

When was the last game your opponent did not have anything AP2 ?

Necrons don't have that much AP2 in abundance. Most of the time its mass gauss and things like wraiths, which granted do have occasional AP2 via rending but since they can't challenge I LoS all the rends onto the boyz and tank the rest on him. Lychguard are rarely seen in my meta (with warscythes at least) and he uses Zandrekh so no warscythes either from his Overlord HQ. At most he might sometimes run a judicator battalion but I handle them the same way as I do wraiths.

Isn't a warscychte ap1 S7 on every necron destroyer / overlord, seems to me like they would just challenge you and cut you in half.

AP2 S7, actually (not that it makes a difference). There's a reason I'm one of the few people I know who uses Warscythe LG exclusively. Pretty much every army in my meta uses some form of TEQ deathstar and/or smashfucker. My only problem is getting them in range.

Having been decimated by a SM Chapter Master fully kitted, I'd have to vote for him.

Always chaos lord. I love giving them as many attacks as possible and charging them across the battlefield!

Archmagos Reductor with full utility. Because his flexibility. Expensive as an Imperial Knight.....

Zardu Layak.

He does so many things. Sure, he's only W2, but he can't do everything, and he has the coolest bodyguard ever.

Mega armoured warboss with Da Lucky Stick. Those 15 pt mess that don't use up a slot are nice to take challenges for nobz and might even keep an obsec trukk running long enough for some shenanigans after unloading.

A CSM DP with the Black Mace is decently killy, and can hurt nigh on anything.

I also take Ahriman a lot, but he's normally not worth it. But, you have the odd game where Psychic Shriek or Doombolt goes really well and you take a huge chunk of the opponent's army in one hit.

I generally use a Dark Angels Librarian on a bike. He's fairly inexpensive and a decent force multiplier. Plus, I hate spending too many points on a HQ.

 Camundongo wrote:
A CSM DP with the Black Mace is decently killy, and can hurt nigh on anything.

I also take Ahriman a lot, but he's normally not worth it. But, you have the odd game where Psychic Shriek or Doombolt goes really well and you take a huge chunk of the opponent's army in one hit.

How do you manage to get the DP into assault without it being shot out?

not tested him yet but for my csm i think he has alot of potential
Chaos lord o tzeench with votlw disc sigil spell familiar black mace scrolls of magnus last memory
Say hello to the level 2 chaos lord who thanks to the scrolls generates a new power every turn from a random discipline and if how im reading it he keeps his previously generated powers :p

I'm always a bit puzzled by the inclusion of smashfucker in these lists. Perhaps it's because I play pure MSU with no bit target, but I find his damage output abysmal for how costly he is. Whenever an opponent brings him out, I just ignore him and focus on the rest of the army. Hasn't failed me yet.

Pedro Kantor! ObSec Sternguard and +1 Attack bubble FTW!

Chaos Lord on Bike with Power Fist and Lightning Claw with a smattering of upgrades (Sigil of Corruption, or Aura of Dark Glory) makes for a great beatstick in higher points levels where one can afford it.

Otherwise I'd say the Farseer is ML3, decently survivable, and has access to the Singing Spear for 105pts. And that's hard to beat for points to performance in most fields.

Destroyer lord with the 'Nightbringers scythe thingy' (Fleshbane, Armourbane scythe thing), tachyon arrow and the Veil of Darkness.

Come at me bro.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
Destroyer lord with the 'Nightbringers scythe thingy' (Fleshbane, Armourbane scythe thing), tachyon arrow and the Veil of Darkness.

Come at me bro.

The Voidreaper ('Nightbringers scythe thingy') can't be taken with the Veil of Darkness. Only one Artifact of the Aeons per IC.

Canoness (2 Inferno Pistols, Mantle of Ophelia, Rosarius).

Two BS5 ignores cover melta shots on 3+/4++ Eterenal Warrior with Scout for 115 points (plus retinue).

 Selym wrote:

 Camundongo wrote:
A CSM DP with the Black Mace is decently killy, and can hurt nigh on anything.

I also take Ahriman a lot, but he's normally not worth it. But, you have the odd game where Psychic Shriek or Doombolt goes really well and you take a huge chunk of the opponent's army in one hit.

How do you manage to get the DP into assault without it being shot out?

My club tends to use a fair bit of LOS blocking terrain, so I normally can get him in close enough to jump a building into combat, though I won't deny that overwatch can be dicey. Normally I take a few powers from Biomancy to buff (fishing for Iron Arm and/or Endurance).

He won't always work, but used sensibly he can nasty. However, I also have to admit... I normally now use him as DP from an Allied CD detachment, simply because the rewards (namely the Greater Ones) let him be much nastier for less cost (and I'm planning on swapping him out altogether for a GD - even cheaper and that all important T6)

 EnTyme wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
Destroyer lord with the 'Nightbringers scythe thingy' (Fleshbane, Armourbane scythe thing), tachyon arrow and the Veil of Darkness.

Come at me bro.

The Voidreaper ('Nightbringers scythe thingy') can't be taken with the Veil of Darkness. Only one Artifact of the Aeons per IC.

Rest in Peace hopes and dreams.

You could always have him without the shroud, usually things that have AP 3 have AP 2, so it wont make much difference. The fleshbane and armourbane is too good to get rid of.

Do Dark Eldar have any good HQ after the last codex?

I run a lvl 3 sorcerer in terminator armour with a familiar. He's not a tank, but it's the best I can do with the Chaos Codex that fits my Thousand Sons. Ahriman perils too often to be worth it.

My 6th ed. Space Marines Deathwatch uses Tigurius

 Ashiraya wrote:
Zardu Layak.

He does so many things. Sure, he's only W2, but he can't do everything, and he has the coolest bodyguard ever.

This would be my pick, as well. You can find a use for him in ANY Word Bearers list, even if it's just standing back and summoning Daemons.

Wolf lord
Thunderwolf mount, runic armor, stormshield, krakenbone sword.

You've get 6 Str 6 Ap2 swings at I5. And he's T5, 4W, and a save line of 2+/3+/3++/4++/6++