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More likely to deal with people just sitting inside playing the game, that hurts business by wasting space and is understandable. But this is like the opposite way to go about it, just do discounts or things depending on their team or something like other businesses have; would look much better than a big "go away" sign at least.

 Dreadwinter wrote:
The funny thing is, you only need to stand at their door to catch anything inside the building. It is kinda cute that they are trying to keep people out as if they own the Pokemon.

That is because the signs are written by people who don't understand the game at all, just like media that reports on it. When they posted articles about the guy who walked off the cliff to catch Pokemon or the girl who crossed a busy street to catch them. They blame the game for putting Pokemon in places they have to go.... but what media doesn't understand, if it is on the screen (ie: they knew one was there) then that means they can click on it from where they were. They don't have to go anywhere else. It isn't like there is an arrow saying across the street a Pokemon will spawn or that over the cliff one will spawn.

Video games are still just a punching bag for the media really, that is until older memes from 3 years ago catch on (to them) so they decide to report on them.

Well, ya gotta admit that Pokemon Go makes it easy.

AFP wrote:Bosnia's Pokemon Go players urged to avoid wartime mine fields

Well, that's a headline you'd never see associated with GTA5.

I saw my first stampede yesterday, when a Wartortle dropped downtown. Dozens of people running across train tracks and past shops at 11 at night to catch a bundle of pixels while I sedately drove up to it and popped it into my ball.

What a bizarre time we live in!

 Gitzbitah wrote:
...while I sedately drove up to it and popped it into my ball.

What a bizarre time we live in!

You got that right!

Yay, i hatched a Pikachu this morning! It's so cute when i tap on him and he jumps up and does his electric shock emote.

Ah the fun times of reinforcing a gym to see yet another valor gang hatchback pull up and take the gym, only for me to take it back again right after and leave an immovable jolteon to deal with their pidgeot spam.

 n0t_u wrote:
Ah the fun times of reinforcing a gym to see yet another valor gang hatchback pull up and take the gym, only for me to take it back again right after and leave an immovable jolteon to deal with their pidgeot spam.

I'm not sure whether or not I enjoy how easy it is to take over a gym. It's great to take down other team's gyms, but sometimes I see folks take down my stuff, only to replace it with 6-700CP junk. I'm thinking I may just take over every gym in town and leave 33CP Pidgeys behind me.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 n0t_u wrote:
Ah the fun times of reinforcing a gym to see yet another valor gang hatchback pull up and take the gym, only for me to take it back again right after and leave an immovable jolteon to deal with their pidgeot spam.

I'm not sure whether or not I enjoy how easy it is to take over a gym. It's great to take down other team's gyms, but sometimes I see folks take down my stuff, only to replace it with 6-700CP junk. I'm thinking I may just take over every gym in town and leave 33CP Pidgeys behind me.

I'm only just hitting into the 600s now so I tend to take out the 200-300cp gyms if I see them or try to boost up my team's ones if I can. But in general my town and the ones around it have been dominated by red team, so I try to get some blue gyms into it whenever I can.

You can still whittle down a gym filled with 1500CP Pokémon if you have the patience and items. I don't think you even necessarily have to defeat the Pokémon in the gym- just fighting knocks off 100 prestige.

That just my conjecture from what I've observed others fighting gyms I've taken over. I haven't tried taking on a big gym with a smaller Pokémon yet, but I'm hoping to try it out this evening if I get the time.

Gyms are maybe a little too easy to take down. I have solo rolled a level 10 gym to the ground before. (I'd do it more often if pokestops would give more potions and less pokeballs! Pretty decent xp.)

Once you get in the 20's and have some of the good gym fighters near max cp for your level, the only thing stopping you from taking any gym ever is your potion supply. Even some of our top Pokemon in town like a few 2k+ dragonites can't stop me.

I appreciate that they want the game to not stagnate with impregnable gyms, but due to the attacker getting 6 dudes, getting to line up type advantages, and the cpu sucking at playing (doesn't dodge, attacks very slowly,) as well as the fact that the attacker can drain prestige just for beating the low guys and running, and can slowly reduce the gym to just your super high guy and then attack it with 6 'mons...

It just seems a bit overkill in attacker advantage. Pretty much the only way to keep a gym is if it's some out of the way gym that no one ever goes by, and thus no one ever takes a swing at it.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
I'm not sure whether or not I enjoy how easy it is to take over a gym. It's great to take down other team's gyms, but sometimes I see folks take down my stuff, only to replace it with 6-700CP junk. I'm thinking I may just take over every gym in town and leave 33CP Pidgeys behind me.

That is probably mostly solo or a couple people, instead of an actual team. The easy part is taking down lower level gyms when they are only level 5 or below. It is unfortunately very hard (if solo) to level a gym to level 10, to fully stock it up. Although a group of 5-10 players (really want 10 so each player leaves one Pokemon) is what you want to take over, level to 10 and then leave.

When you do that, you usually can get 10 Gyms taken over and maxed out and then collect your daily rewards. Then no one cares about those Gyms (at least from that group) until 20 hours have passed so they can collect rewards again.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
You can still whittle down a gym filled with 1500CP Pokémon if you have the patience and items. I don't think you even necessarily have to defeat the Pokémon in the gym- just fighting knocks off 100 prestige.

That just my conjecture from what I've observed others fighting gyms I've taken over. I haven't tried taking on a big gym with a smaller Pokémon yet, but I'm hoping to try it out this evening if I get the time.

It works, just with only the same little ones its very hard to hold anything. Especially when most of these red gyms start at 1200 anyway too.

 niv-mizzet wrote:
It just seems a bit overkill in attacker advantage. Pretty much the only way to keep a gym is if it's some out of the way gym that no one ever goes by, and thus no one ever takes a swing at it.

Gyms aren't meant to be kept though. They are meant to change hands. They are only meant to be held long enough for people to collect their max gyms. The AI will be updated and can be slightly effected as some are learning the meta and min/maxing. The majority of players however will not care about it, but there is a good portion that are working on the min/max meta part of it.

A good resource site for tracking skills is the following:

http://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/pokemon-list

This website is a comprehensive database with tons of useful info, including but not limited to breakdowns of the DPS each of the skills carry with them. When you evolve a Pokemon, he re-rolls his skills at random - and it's kind of miserable because the skills are NOT even in power.

Keep in mind that STAB is in effect here (Same Type Attack Bonus) and what it means is if the Pokemon uses a skill that's the same attack type as their inherent type, they get a 25% damage bonus. This means if Gyarados rolls Bite, which deals Dark Damage, he's not actually doing his maximum damage potential on his Basic since he's a Water Pokemon.

Also, while attacking your guy attacks as fast as you can tap / the skill cooldown can refresh, but on defense you will ALWAYS attack at 1.5 sec per attack. What this means is someone with a lower DPS 15 dmg Basic OR a higher DPS 10 dmg Basic (higher because it attacks twice as fast) would actually want the 15 dmg attack on defense, as it means they're maximizing the 1.5 sec attacks. Havinbg a faster 10 dmg attack on defense means nothing to you.

So if you plan on using it for defense, go for the slower bigger dmg attacks, if it's offense use the faster higher DPS attacks. Defense is kind of irrelevant right now anyway so I'd favor focusing on the ones that roll higher DPS attacks for offense.

Now let's talk about the lovely world of IVs...

IVs are invisible variable stats you don't actually see. They represent ATK, DEF and STAM and these IVs can roll a random +15 to each of the stats. This has a direct impact on CP, meaning two fully leveled pokemons can actually have very different final CP values.

How can you easily calculate something you can't see, though? Well, of course redditors have us covered:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wbtIc33K45iU1ScUnkB0PlslJ-eLaJlSZY47sPME2Uk/copy

What this spreadsheet does is give you a calculator to see "how good" your pokemon rolled IVs. Unlike skills, IVs DO carry over from evolution, meaning you could theoretically scout the lower evos of something you plan on making for a very good IV % roll.

Say you have 10 Squirtles and you want to make a Blastoise. In the one hand, your plan might be to auto evolve the one that's leveled up the most to make life easy for you. That's totally fine as a strategy - but if you're min/maxing, you're actually going to want to plug all 10 in to that calculator, find one that's like 90%+ on their IV rolls and go with that one, regardless of how leveled it is. Once evolved, if it rolled good skills he's your keeper. If he rolled bad skills, you may want to give up on him and try again from scratch!

Again, this is a min/max strategy and isn't for everyone. Plenty of people will play the game NEVER knowing about IVs or paying attention to it. I am not one of those people though =P And believe me, I'm pretty bummed at how many 30-50% dudes I have. I had no idea about IVs in the beginning and now that I do, I REGRET A LOT OF MY DECISIONS.

This is all pretty complicated end game stuff, so if it's greek to you and you don't care, just ignore it and keep playing however you want.

Aww shoot so there are IVs? Boo.

 Dark Severance wrote:

 niv-mizzet wrote:
It just seems a bit overkill in attacker advantage. Pretty much the only way to keep a gym is if it's some out of the way gym that no one ever goes by, and thus no one ever takes a swing at it.

Gyms aren't meant to be kept though. They are meant to change hands. They are only meant to be held long enough for people to collect their max gyms.

Uh who are you talking to? I know this already, and even said it in the post you quoted from. Let me reiterate: I don't want gyms to be impregnable and stagnate the game, I just think it's waaaaaay too much of a cakewalk for the attacker right now. I already know it's intentionally weighted that way, I just think they missed the mark a bit. Getting to line up for type superiority and bringing 6 guys is already plenty advantage. Getting to chip away at the prestige with poor performance attacks and fighting against awful cpu defenders just makes it silly easy.

On a related note, they should really make it where the attacker that cleared a gym gets like...30 seconds to install what he wants in the empty gym first before other people are given the option. I see a lot of people (mystics especially) just wait until you clear the gym and instantly insert another defender before the attacker has even gotten to click back into the gym menu. That seems like less than sporting technique to me.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Yay, i hatched a Pikachu this morning! It's so cute when i tap on him and he jumps up and does his electric shock emote.

And he actually says "Pikachu!", too, instead of making the Gameboy-esque noises that everyone else makes. Which I guess is also kinda cute.

Team Instinct has been doing some work the past few days. Whenever I get off work there's at least like 4-5 gyms taken over, so I've been going to each one and either training or just stuffing a Pokemon right in there and collecting a gym bonus. Got 2000 stardust and 40 coins today.

I also just hit trainer level 20, and holy gak I feel like I've wasted everything so far, lol. One of the first Pokemon I found after I leveled up was a CP600+ Eevee. That'll turn into something nice I'm sure, but I'm not really sure what to evolve it into. I have two Jolteons, one Vaporeon and one Flareon. I have another CP500+ Eevee and exactly 50 candy so I can get two more big ones but I dunno what to make them into. None of the ones I have right now are all that impressive, my strongest one is a CP1008 Jolteon that only has like 76hp, the other three are mid-800s.

Vaporeon and Flareon would be good choices then cause you already have a Jolteon over 1k.

This server issue is getting annoying. Last night I launched my only lucky egg ready to mass evolve and the server went down for the whole night. Super pissed.

Do you think its worth complaining to get my egg back? Would that even work or is it just the worst luck?

Get a Vaporeon when you can. It's obviously more powerful than the other two eeveelutions.

 Sidstyler wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Yay, i hatched a Pikachu this morning! It's so cute when i tap on him and he jumps up and does his electric shock emote.

And he actually says "Pikachu!", too, instead of making the Gameboy-esque noises that everyone else makes. Which I guess is also kinda cute.

Team Instinct has been doing some work the past few days. Whenever I get off work there's at least like 4-5 gyms taken over, so I've been going to each one and either training or just stuffing a Pokemon right in there and collecting a gym bonus. Got 2000 stardust and 40 coins today.

I also just hit trainer level 20, and holy gak I feel like I've wasted everything so far, lol. One of the first Pokemon I found after I leveled up was a CP600+ Eevee. That'll turn into something nice I'm sure, but I'm not really sure what to evolve it into. I have two Jolteons, one Vaporeon and one Flareon. I have another CP500+ Eevee and exactly 50 candy so I can get two more big ones but I dunno what to make them into. None of the ones I have right now are all that impressive, my strongest one is a CP1008 Jolteon that only has like 76hp, the other three are mid-800s.

If you want to be a contender in the gym scene, vaporeons all day every day. They attack fast, and have almost snorlax-levels of hp, double what the other eevee-lutions have. Also among the top tier gym fighter Pokemon, there aren't any electric types, and the only high tier grass type usually has a psychic primary attack. (Exeggcutor) Also also being an eeveelution means it's hilariously more common than the other top tier gym fighters like snorlax, dragonite, exegg, lapras, etc.

I keep a first string of 3 2k vaporeons that get powered up every level first thing.

 nurgle86 wrote:
This server issue is getting annoying. Last night I launched my only lucky egg ready to mass evolve and the server went down for the whole night. Super pissed.

Do you think its worth complaining to get my egg back? Would that even work or is it just the worst luck?

Could try, but I don't think you'll get anything back from it. There's been a ton of people complaining about incense and lucky eggs being eaten like that.

Looks like datamining payout showing what the max CP is for each Pokemon.

http://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/pokemon-list

Seems that they've done some improvements with the server issues now, yesterday was the first day when there was no daily server jam when US comes online after a working day.

Means that I can chase some night pokemons here at EU side

 Dark Severance wrote:
Looks like datamining payout showing what the max CP is for each Pokemon.

http://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/pokemon-list

I was just wondering the other day if there was a "max" CP or if it just kept going and going, and you'd eventually see people with Pokemon in the 4k-5k+ level or something crazy like that.

it appears Oliver stone thinks Pokemon Go is the beginning of a new great evil of intelligence gathering:

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gaming/2016/07/pokemon-go-invasion-oliver-stone-snowden-surveillance/

And yet I bet he owns a smart phone. Does he not realize that ability has been there for years.

Pokemon Go doesn't actually bring anything new to the ability to track and monitor that doesn't already exist. The only thing is turning location, but Facebook and other companies have already had the ability to use location to tailor ads to you on your phone. There isn't anything else that Pokemon Go does that other apps and companies don't already provide.

Now I can understand if these things weren't already possible and easier done already, but they are so why would they use Pokemon Go.

Let's keep this thread for discussion about the actual game.

Anyone can start up a different thread to discuss any of the various non-game related...theories, if they want.

I think I might be done. Every time I go out, it's either Pidgey or Rattata.

Just give me something that isn't freaking normal type!