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So I've noticed that every territory is being dominated by order. Also each pie chart from each region is roughly the same, which is pretty lame. You don't really get the sense that your actions mean anything in the large scheme of things. The charts more or less represent the volume of players that play each faction, and lets face it, order is pretty stacked. Not sure GW thought this one through...

Death= 1 army (undead)

Destruction= 2 armies (Orks and Ogres)

Chaos= 1.5 armies (Chaos and super-niche Beastmen)

Order= 8 armies ( Empire, Dwarves, Sylvenith, Serephon, Britonia, High Elves, Dark Elves, Stormcast)

Maybe part of the story will be a further alliance between the Great Alliances.

All of GW's campaigns have been rigged to date. Order is supposed to win. If you're reading the narrative, Order is striking back and taking back their territory and winning.

Additionally, order has more factions and I would guess more players due to there being more factions (and the sylvaneth release has swelled their numbers for right now)

too many stormcast armies made from starter sets. im sure chaos will start to make its way in. We are literally on day 2............a bit too early to call it a dud.

Yeah it's rigged just like the 13th black crusade was.

Gw is to gutless to leave major world? Universe shaping events to chance.

Problem is that order and chaos(don't forget skaven is chaos now) is pretty much made up of majority of the old world factions. Plus they had several proper new releases. While death has only one battletome and even then it was a repackage. We have nothing that is pecking people's interest to play Death. We still have the same old zombies, Skeletons, grave guard and black knights haven't been reboxed. We don't even have a plastic vampire yet. So it's not really surprising this is happening. Plus destruction have the new Iron jaw's which are pretty popular with players. If I want to properly do my zombies I have the order in bases and the models are pretty old also.

Let's not forget the tomb king players who most likely left in droves. If death had a tomb king release that would of helped a ton instead of doing ghouls. Don't get me wrong ghouls are cool their fluff is awesome but let's be real here most undead players don't do ghoul armies. So yeah of course it's rigged it's the reason why my GW manager said order is going to win straight up. Unless GW give's some sort of help to the other factions order is going to take this by a landslide.

I wouldn't say its rigged, but it IS favored for Order. And I believe that's by design; short of explicitly stating so the fluff has been very clear that Order is still threatened but has the upper hand in defending those cities. Also I doubt the timing of this with the Sylvaneth release was coincidental. The design is supposed to give the edge to Order, which I understand is indeed a buzzkill for some players. Personally I find it more engaging that way; realistically by the fluff each alliance would not have an equal chance here. Order would have the strongest shot at victory, followed by Chaos, then by Destruction/Death, which is what we are seeing initially. As for how things flow from here... we'll see. I would bet the numbers will shift this weekend since many stores probably have only a couple or even no games logged yet.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I wouldn't say its rigged, but it IS favored for Order. And I believe that's by design; short of explicitly stating so the fluff has been very clear that Order is still threatened but has the upper hand in defending those cities. Also I doubt the timing of this with the Sylvaneth release was coincidental. The design is supposed to give the edge to Order, which I understand is indeed a buzzkill for some players. Personally I find it more engaging that way; realistically by the fluff each alliance would not have an equal chance here. Order would have the strongest shot at victory, followed by Chaos, then by Destruction/Death, which is what we are seeing initially. As for how things flow from here... we'll see. I would bet the numbers will shift this weekend since many stores probably have only a couple or even no games logged yet.

Pretty much, order also had several new shiny releases unlike death. We have no chance of taking a city. I am at least hoping for a contested city at least.

 shinros wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I wouldn't say its rigged, but it IS favored for Order. And I believe that's by design; short of explicitly stating so the fluff has been very clear that Order is still threatened but has the upper hand in defending those cities. Also I doubt the timing of this with the Sylvaneth release was coincidental. The design is supposed to give the edge to Order, which I understand is indeed a buzzkill for some players. Personally I find it more engaging that way; realistically by the fluff each alliance would not have an equal chance here. Order would have the strongest shot at victory, followed by Chaos, then by Destruction/Death, which is what we are seeing initially. As for how things flow from here... we'll see. I would bet the numbers will shift this weekend since many stores probably have only a couple or even no games logged yet.

Pretty much, order also had several new shiny releases unlike death. We have no chance of taking a city. I am at least hoping for a contested city at least.

Also, its not like 'Order wins all cities so they win 100% in the fluf' they just say the results will be used to shape the fluff going forward. If order wins by a huge margin we will probably see that in the fluff, but if Order gets a narrow win only by virtue of getting 1/3 of a city when the rest is split up we will probably see that reflected instead. It isn't simply win or lose here, the proportions matter. Plus the fluff may very well skew things away from Order to compensate for their advantage; we don't know. If people want to throw up their hands and call it pointless already they can, but that seems like an awfully boring way of reacting and isn't the point here to have fun?

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I wouldn't say its rigged, but it IS favored for Order. And I believe that's by design; short of explicitly stating so the fluff has been very clear that Order is still threatened but has the upper hand in defending those cities. Also I doubt the timing of this with the Sylvaneth release was coincidental. The design is supposed to give the edge to Order, which I understand is indeed a buzzkill for some players. Personally I find it more engaging that way; realistically by the fluff each alliance would not have an equal chance here. Order would have the strongest shot at victory, followed by Chaos, then by Destruction/Death, which is what we are seeing initially. As for how things flow from here... we'll see. I would bet the numbers will shift this weekend since many stores probably have only a couple or even no games logged yet.

Pretty much, order also had several new shiny releases unlike death. We have no chance of taking a city. I am at least hoping for a contested city at least.

Also, its not like 'Order wins all cities so they win 100% in the fluf' they just say the results will be used to shape the fluff going forward. If order wins by a huge margin we will probably see that in the fluff, but if Order gets a narrow win only by virtue of getting 1/3 of a city when the rest is split up we will probably see that reflected instead. It isn't simply win or lose here, the proportions matter. Plus the fluff may very well skew things away from Order to compensate for their advantage; we don't know. If people want to throw up their hands and call it pointless already they can, but that seems like an awfully boring way of reacting and isn't the point here to have fun?

Oh don't get me wrong I am going to keep trying and winning battles for nagash.

"Chaos Lords, Mortarchs and Warbosses: are you just going to stand there and let the God King claim the realm of Ghyran?"

It's just that I am making the point that GW is saying in their new post "Hey destruction and Death chaos and order are kicking your butts what are you doing?" I am just slightly rolling my eyes at what they are saying hell some people on facebook are surprised Death is losing by this much. It's not all that surprising to me when you have to smallest faction and the least updates and least amount of fluff out of the alliances. I am just a little salty. Don't mind me I am having fun.

Anyway it's too early to tell GW may surprise us with something.

 shinros wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I wouldn't say its rigged, but it IS favored for Order. And I believe that's by design; short of explicitly stating so the fluff has been very clear that Order is still threatened but has the upper hand in defending those cities. Also I doubt the timing of this with the Sylvaneth release was coincidental. The design is supposed to give the edge to Order, which I understand is indeed a buzzkill for some players. Personally I find it more engaging that way; realistically by the fluff each alliance would not have an equal chance here. Order would have the strongest shot at victory, followed by Chaos, then by Destruction/Death, which is what we are seeing initially. As for how things flow from here... we'll see. I would bet the numbers will shift this weekend since many stores probably have only a couple or even no games logged yet.

Pretty much, order also had several new shiny releases unlike death. We have no chance of taking a city. I am at least hoping for a contested city at least.

Also, its not like 'Order wins all cities so they win 100% in the fluf' they just say the results will be used to shape the fluff going forward. If order wins by a huge margin we will probably see that in the fluff, but if Order gets a narrow win only by virtue of getting 1/3 of a city when the rest is split up we will probably see that reflected instead. It isn't simply win or lose here, the proportions matter. Plus the fluff may very well skew things away from Order to compensate for their advantage; we don't know. If people want to throw up their hands and call it pointless already they can, but that seems like an awfully boring way of reacting and isn't the point here to have fun?

Oh don't get me wrong I am going to keep trying and winning battles for nagash.

"Chaos Lords, Mortarchs and Warbosses: are you just going to stand there and let the God King claim the realm of Ghyran?"

It's just that I am making the point that GW is saying in their new post "Hey destruction and Death chaos and order are kicking your butts what are you doing?" I am just slightly rolling my eyes at what they are saying hell some people on facebook are surprised Death is losing by this much. It's not all that surprising to me when you have to smallest faction and the least updates and least amount of fluff out of the alliances. I am just a little salty. Don't mind me I am having fun.

Anyway it's too early to tell GW may surprise us with something.

Dont stress it bro, all these other factions will die eventually and we get it all anyhow. Death always wins in the end.

 thekingofkings wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 shinros wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I wouldn't say its rigged, but it IS favored for Order. And I believe that's by design; short of explicitly stating so the fluff has been very clear that Order is still threatened but has the upper hand in defending those cities. Also I doubt the timing of this with the Sylvaneth release was coincidental. The design is supposed to give the edge to Order, which I understand is indeed a buzzkill for some players. Personally I find it more engaging that way; realistically by the fluff each alliance would not have an equal chance here. Order would have the strongest shot at victory, followed by Chaos, then by Destruction/Death, which is what we are seeing initially. As for how things flow from here... we'll see. I would bet the numbers will shift this weekend since many stores probably have only a couple or even no games logged yet.

Pretty much, order also had several new shiny releases unlike death. We have no chance of taking a city. I am at least hoping for a contested city at least.

Also, its not like 'Order wins all cities so they win 100% in the fluf' they just say the results will be used to shape the fluff going forward. If order wins by a huge margin we will probably see that in the fluff, but if Order gets a narrow win only by virtue of getting 1/3 of a city when the rest is split up we will probably see that reflected instead. It isn't simply win or lose here, the proportions matter. Plus the fluff may very well skew things away from Order to compensate for their advantage; we don't know. If people want to throw up their hands and call it pointless already they can, but that seems like an awfully boring way of reacting and isn't the point here to have fun?

Oh don't get me wrong I am going to keep trying and winning battles for nagash.

"Chaos Lords, Mortarchs and Warbosses: are you just going to stand there and let the God King claim the realm of Ghyran?"

It's just that I am making the point that GW is saying in their new post "Hey destruction and Death chaos and order are kicking your butts what are you doing?" I am just slightly rolling my eyes at what they are saying hell some people on facebook are surprised Death is losing by this much. It's not all that surprising to me when you have to smallest faction and the least updates and least amount of fluff out of the alliances. I am just a little salty. Don't mind me I am having fun.

Anyway it's too early to tell GW may surprise us with something.

Dont stress it bro, all these other factions will die eventually and we get it all anyhow. Death always wins in the end.

Ha, indeed death is inevitable.

Still people on facebook telling us to try harder in the comment's slightly vexed me a bit.

Should've said buy harder

Order's got a nice edge but this is only day two of a month long campaign.

If wars were decided by the initial wins then England conquered France in the hundred years war, America was won by the south and all the states are independent from eachother and Hitler is the second Emperor of Europe after Napoleon.

It's too early to say but Order may exhaust itself from these initial pushes and lose one or two of the cities. (Sigmar forbid)

Baron Klatz wrote:
Order's got a nice edge but this is only day two of a month long campaign.

If wars were decided by the initial wins then England conquered France in the hundred years war, America was won by the south and all the states are independent from eachother and Hitler is the second Emperor of Europe after Napoleon.

It's too early to say but Order may exhaust itself from these initial pushes and lose one or two of the cities. (Sigmar forbid)

My dream outcome is Death taking a city we need some fluff.

I'm sure you'll get your unholy spotlight one way or another. Nagash is too big of a attention hog to ignore being shoved to the sidelines.

This year of AoS has also been a year of Order so it's not surprising. Also it's good for the fluff, since up to now Chaos were winning everywhere

It is only day two for this stuff, so give it some time! There hasn't been a saturday and sunday yet for more people to take time off and game!

Day 2 and someone is upset. Wow.

Just to echo, order has gotten more releases, and as stated Sylva got a big release so that's even more.

Did you forget Archaeon won last time? Chaos blew up the old world. Hes more powerful then the 4(5?) gods as in the fluff, everything they throw at him he beats. They are actually afraid of his power

Looking at the Season of War website, I checked all of the participating stores in my area (Cincinnati, Dayton and Columbus OH; Lexington and Louisville KY and Indianapolis IN). So far only two stores have reported any battles and those two don't look like they've had more than a handful of battles. Its way too early yet to come to any conclusions about the campaign.

I mean, I hope it's not rigged, and I don't know that I'd buy the argument that they intentionally planned out their releases this way to favour Order, but I'm glad that for the most part Order is holding.

Chaos already won and destroyed the old world, and they'd won Storm of Chaos too.

Nagash is just a twit - betrays Sigmar twice (first time before the whole stormcast thing) and then still has the gall to go around telling all and sundry that somehow HE's been betrayed.

Can't complain about Gork (or was it Mork) though, Sigmar should have probably seen that one coming. And at least he isn't a whiny deluded clown who thinks everyone else is the problem.

woah.
The map looks the same now but check your local store for live updates. We just finished our first game and the week 1 scenario was an excellent scenario for any level of army count. Don't agree at all that it's stacked, even though my Fyreslayers favor Order (or, at least until the next higher bidder comes along... )

bob82ca wrote:
So I've noticed that every territory is being dominated by order. Also each pie chart from each region is roughly the same, which is pretty lame. You don't really get the sense that your actions mean anything in the large scheme of things. The charts more or less represent the volume of players that play each faction, and lets face it, order is pretty stacked. Not sure GW thought this one through...

Death= 1 army (undead)

Destruction= 2 armies (Orks and Ogres)

Chaos= 1.5 armies (Chaos and super-niche Beastmen)

Order= 8 armies ( Empire, Dwarves, Sylvenith, Serephon, Britonia, High Elves, Dark Elves, Stormcast)

Just going to have to poke fun at you real quick. Simplifying chaos into 1.5 is ridiculous. Obviously you have a bone to pick with order because you have split them all up. So let me do the same for chaos. Beastmen, skaven, 4 varieties of demons, chaos warriors, and a random smattering of other units that could equal 8 armies as well. Once again another random person on the internet needing to find a reason to be mad at GW.

Also, Order gets Bretonnia but Death doesn't get Tomb kings? (I know what Shinros said about their players but there are still AoS tomb king armies as much as Bretonnian ones.)

Chaos also has chaos dwarfs and Destruction has Grots.(alot of spider Grotling armies out there)

Baron Klatz wrote:
Also, Order gets Bretonnia but Death doesn't get Tomb kings? (I know what Shinros said about their players but there are still AoS tomb king armies as much as Bretonnian ones.)

Chaos also has chaos dwarfs and Destruction has Grots.(alot of spider Grotling armies out there)

I was making the point that Bret's and Tomb King players quit in droves for obvious reasons if tomb kings have been updated for AOS that would of helped Death's win percentage. Still even if it's like the second day look at the win percentage graph only chaos has any hope of catching up and the actual numbers are on the grand alliance community order is charging ahead in terms of points unless majority of them stop playing it's going to stay that way. Still the campaign is about fun and doing the hobby so that's what I will do.

I'm not sure if it's global, but at least around here they don't count the results of same faction match ups. So order vs order means nothing at all to the campaign results and doesn't get counted.

As it is destruction is currently in the lead as well, not that it matters so much overall it seems.

But the biggest thing going for order are the stormcast and the sylvaneth hype train mostly.

IT IS 2 DAYS IN!!!!!!

Like really people why is this a conversation? 2 days in...... could we please at least read the first chapter before judging the entire content of the book

Wait a second, isn't it the first week that is the most restrictive in what could be used for it?

 Ghaz wrote:
Looking at the Season of War website, I checked all of the participating stores in my area (Cincinnati, Dayton and Columbus OH; Lexington and Louisville KY and Indianapolis IN). So far only two stores have reported any battles and those two don't look like they've had more than a handful of battles. Its way too early yet to come to any conclusions about the campaign.

Louisville is going to have about six - eight battles done over the weekend for it. Though we are heavily chaos dominant.

 namiel wrote:
IT IS 2 DAYS IN!!!!!!

Like really people why is this a conversation? 2 days in...... could we please at least read the first chapter before judging the entire content of the book

GW has a long way to go before people can trust them completely. What part of that you don't understand? GW rigged results before. GW totally ignored results before. So why are you yelling at us?

Hey that is great you think GW is all rainbows and unicorns now, but for a lot of us, while we are giving GW a second, third, forth chance, we may forgive, but we don't forget. For us we know GW is not all rainbows and unicorns so are leary.