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 Anpu-adom wrote:
Yeah... the only problem is that you never had enough faith points for an actual army... in an edition that didn't allow allies.

I dunno - at 1850pts it'd be a squeeze, but I never had that many "Faithful" units in my old Sisters list and I seemed to do okay. You don't have enough for a 3++ on everyone every turn - but you shouldn't have that anyway.

We'll see where sisters are after Imperial Agents...

Back in here, probably:

and then we'll see what the new year brings.

Finally, this whole Imperial Agents release seems to be a way to gauge interest in Sisters... between the "Made to Order" releases and redoing Sisters bundles. It is all advertizing for this line. The price of regular bolter sisters has come down somewhat (look at the 5 Bolters for $35 over what was once 3 for $27) and the prices for special weapons haven't increased.

I don't think it is. I think it's an attempt to consolidate all the minor Imperium factions into a single book, which may be the first step on the road to trimming down the number of full armies GW is writing Codexes for - or alternatively, it may provide an impetus for GW to start developing Sisters as a full army in their own right once again. Grey Knights too.

Either way, C:IA seems like another supplement aimed at Marines players to me, rather than an attempt to make Inquisition armies a legitimate choice in 40k.

 Anpu-adom wrote:
...We'll see where sisters are after Imperial Agents...

In the exact same place, probably. BoLS posted scans of the Sisters' special rules page and the whole thing is just a copy-paste from the current book.

Sisters were never rumored to be coming out until 2017 and I could have sworn they said the Sisters stuff form this year is just a taste. It also makes no sense to release a 7th sisters dex so close to 8th.

 Gamgee wrote:
Sisters were never rumored to be coming out until 2017 and I could have sworn they said the Sisters stuff form this year is just a taste. It also makes no sense to release a 7th sisters dex so close to 8th.

There isn't going to be a codex. This is the last sisters release we'll see for 2-3 years if ever. They haven't even started working on models yet. The Magnus video was just a cruel joke.

ERJAK wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Sisters were never rumored to be coming out until 2017 and I could have sworn they said the Sisters stuff form this year is just a taste. It also makes no sense to release a 7th sisters dex so close to 8th.

There isn't going to be a codex. This is the last sisters release we'll see for 2-3 years if ever. They haven't even started working on models yet. The Magnus video was just a cruel joke.

I have to agree with this statement. These Sisters of Battle models have been out of production for years. Why would GW suddenly spend time, resources, and money on bringing them back into production and printing out their codex if they have a new line of plastic models and a new codex to be released within a couple months? It's not the first time GW has pulled a fast one on a Codex (Imperial Knight Titans comes to mind), but it would be a HUGE step back from the way GW has been operating for most of this year. GW would have to realize the backlash they would get for pulling such a move, considering their new foray into social media and actually starting to pay attention to what their player base says.

This is a bad sign for the Sisters of Battle.

From BoLS


So, full codex in print and the existing models back in boxes and in shops.

I'm happy about the book, not thrilled about the models.

About model pricing, GW can't keep GSC Acolytes on the shelves at $8 each for 8 point plastic models, so $8 for a metal sister isn't even that ridiculous any more.

 adamsouza wrote:

About model pricing, GW can't keep GSC Acolytes on the shelves at $8 each for 8 point plastic models, so $8 for a metal sister isn't even that ridiculous any more.

With Acolytes you're paying £5/ $8 for brand new sculpts in fully poseable plastic kits, plus enough bits to cover all the options for a 5-model squad. With Sisters you get what you're given, which is a selection of ten year old sculpts in two-piece metal kits. They're fantastic models, don't get me wrong, but it's still pretty steep.

The GSC models are also backed up by a really strong Codex. Sisters, not so much.

 adamsouza wrote:
From BoLS

Spoiler:

This 136-page full-colour Codex presents background and rules for a number of smaller Imperial factions, whose forces fight alongside other armies of the Emperor. Use the rules, datasheets, wargear and detachments included to add members of the following operatives to any army of the Imperium:

– A full army list for the Battle Sisters of the Adepta Sororitas
– Tech-Priest Enginseers and Servitors of the Adeptus Mechanicus
– Valkyries of the Aeronautica Imperialis
– Battle Psykers and Astropaths of the Astra Telepathica
– Priests of the Adeptus Ministorum
– Kill Teams and Corvus Blackstars of the Deathwatch
– Terminator Squads and Nemesis Dreadknights of the Grey Knights
– The Legion of the Damned
– Assassins of the Officio Assassinorum
– Inquisitors of the Inquisition

So, full codex in print and the existing models back in boxes and in shops.

I'm happy about the book, not thrilled about the models.

About model pricing, GW can't keep GSC Acolytes on the shelves at $8 each for 8 point plastic models, so $8 for a metal sister isn't even that ridiculous any more.

It also doesn't help that with Celestine gone there is NEVER a reason to buy or bring the most expensive group of models.

Seraphim were underwhelming before, without Celestine there is NEVER a reason to take them over dominions.

Maybe I own Serpahim, and think the models look nice...

ERJAK wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
From BoLS

Spoiler:

This 136-page full-colour Codex presents background and rules for a number of smaller Imperial factions, whose forces fight alongside other armies of the Emperor. Use the rules, datasheets, wargear and detachments included to add members of the following operatives to any army of the Imperium:

– A full army list for the Battle Sisters of the Adepta Sororitas
– Tech-Priest Enginseers and Servitors of the Adeptus Mechanicus
– Valkyries of the Aeronautica Imperialis
– Battle Psykers and Astropaths of the Astra Telepathica
– Priests of the Adeptus Ministorum
– Kill Teams and Corvus Blackstars of the Deathwatch
– Terminator Squads and Nemesis Dreadknights of the Grey Knights
– The Legion of the Damned
– Assassins of the Officio Assassinorum
– Inquisitors of the Inquisition

So, full codex in print and the existing models back in boxes and in shops.

I'm happy about the book, not thrilled about the models.

About model pricing, GW can't keep GSC Acolytes on the shelves at $8 each for 8 point plastic models, so $8 for a metal sister isn't even that ridiculous any more.

It also doesn't help that with Celestine gone there is NEVER a reason to buy or bring the most expensive group of models.

Seraphim were underwhelming before, without Celestine there is NEVER a reason to take them over dominions.

I have to disagree. Seraphim bring 4 S3 shred templates for about 100 points. (Plus a few Bolt Pistols.) It's a little outdone by some other armies, sure, but what in the Sisters of Battle codex isn't?

Waaaghpower wrote:
I have to disagree. Seraphim bring 4 S3 shred templates for about 100 points. (Plus a few Bolt Pistols.) It's a little outdone by some other armies, sure, but what in the Sisters of Battle codex isn't?

Dominions bring Scout, more vehicles, and special weapons that Ignore Cover once per game. Difficult to recommend Seraphim over that.

 BBAP wrote:

Waaaghpower wrote:
I have to disagree. Seraphim bring 4 S3 shred templates for about 100 points. (Plus a few Bolt Pistols.) It's a little outdone by some other armies, sure, but what in the Sisters of Battle codex isn't?

Dominions bring Scout, more vehicles, and special weapons that Ignore Cover once per game. Difficult to recommend Seraphim over that.

You're also not always gonna have shred, with celestine gone it's only what 65-70% chance? Dominions you can take a laud hailer for 10 points and have multiple squads rerolling aof

I'm in the Dominion camp as well... REALLY don't like the metal Seraphim models.
It seems that the new decurion/composite detachment for sisters will allow them to automatically pass AOF and gives them ObSec. That's nice. Hopefully it is whole detachment has ObSec like the SM.
Really happy with the rumored formation for Exorcists... Bring 2, roll 2d6 take the highest for number of shots for both of them. It greatly increases the odds. By my math, you have an 86.1% chance of getting 3 or better shots! Much improved over the normal 66%.


Edit: Added statistics

Edit; yeah... not in the book

That decurion stuff was a 4chan fan-dex thing. It's not in the C:IA book.

Did anyone bring up the fact that the Retributor Squad is 100% useless for a Retributor Squad yet?

Superior with Power Weapon.
4 Multi-Meltas.
5 Sisters with Bolters.

Not a single model is actually useful for a Retributor Squad.

 Anpu-adom wrote:
Weird...
I think that the 5 Sister "Battle Sister Upgrade" pack is only $8 more than the 3 BS pack that it replaced. Do I have that right?
3 for $27
5 for $35

3 for £10.75 versus 5 for £20 in the UK. So a bit more expensive now (+12%). I think you're just benefiting from the post-Brexit collapse of Sterling.

And the rising strength of the dollar. Isn't international finance fun?

so let me get this straight. The new sisters "Codex" is just a reprint with 1 of our 3 hq choices cut out?

 Mythantor wrote:
so let me get this straight. The new sisters "Codex" is just a reprint with 1 of our 3 hq choices cut out?

You say that like you're surprised.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Mythantor wrote:
so let me get this straight. The new sisters "Codex" is just a reprint with 1 of our 3 hq choices cut out?

You say that like you're surprised.

Maybe they will at least fix the acts of faith that simply dont work like the celestians.

 Mythantor wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Mythantor wrote:
so let me get this straight. The new sisters "Codex" is just a reprint with 1 of our 3 hq choices cut out?

You say that like you're surprised.

Maybe they will at least fix the acts of faith that simply dont work like the celestians.

Hold onto that optimism, you're gonna need it.

 adamsouza wrote:
So, full codex in print and the existing models back in boxes and in shops. I'm happy about the book, not thrilled about the models.

Far as I can see the models is all you'll get - the physical book is out of stock. So no book for christmas...

Spetulhu wrote:

 adamsouza wrote:
So, full codex in print and the existing models back in boxes and in shops. I'm happy about the book, not thrilled about the models.

Far as I can see the models is all you'll get - the physical book is out of stock. So no book for christmas...

Models?

We just got the one - the Canoness copied off that terrible John Blanche piece from one of the Codices' cover.

The rest are either squad boxes or previously-discontinued models being brought back into production.

 Mythantor wrote:
so let me get this straight. The new sisters "Codex" is just a reprint with 1 of our 3 hq choices cut out?

What are you complaining about? Uriah Jacobus is still in there, and everyone knows the drunken old hobo with the shotgun is the iconic SoB HQ character!

... right?

Eh, it's a *trade*. New Canoness comes in, old Special goes out.

Though the idea of a S3 T3 Lord of War does amuse me.

Yeah... love the gender equity in the fact that the only all female army of the Imperium has NO female special characters and as many male characters as female characters.
This is a problem, GW.

Doesn't help that the male character looks like someone's gropey old uncle either.

 Anpu-adom wrote:
Yeah... love the gender equity in the fact that the only all female army of the Imperium has NO female special characters and as many male characters as female characters.
This is a problem, GW.

There's also the Imperial Guard, which is a very diverse organization that has plenty of women in it.

And it has a stripper-Commissar, an OOP Catachan with grenade launcher, and two female members of the Last Chancers.

Other than those four, all men.


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Know what I'd like to see?

Some female Priest models.

 Pouncey wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:
Yeah... love the gender equity in the fact that the only all female army of the Imperium has NO female special characters and as many male characters as female characters.
This is a problem, GW.

There's also the Imperial Guard, which is a very diverse organization that has plenty of women in it.

And it has a stripper-Commissar, an OOP Catachan with grenade launcher, and two female members of the Last Chancers.

Other than those four, all men.

Not so. Cadian Guard are nearly all female. Same with Tallarn. You just can't tell because of the bulky, functional uniforms, unisex armoring, and service haircuts.

This is really an argument for boobplate, simply to make it clear to players like you which models are male, and which are female!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

 Anpu-adom wrote:
Yeah... love the gender equity in the fact that the only all female army of the Imperium has NO female special characters and as many male characters as female characters.
This is a problem, GW.

There's also the Imperial Guard, which is a very diverse organization that has plenty of women in it.

And it has a stripper-Commissar, an OOP Catachan with grenade launcher, and two female members of the Last Chancers.

Other than those four, all men.

Not so. Cadian Guard are nearly all female. Same with Tallarn. You just can't tell because of the bulky, functional uniforms, unisex armoring, and service haircuts.

This is really an argument for boobplate, simply to make it clear to players like you which models are male, and which are female!

I appreciate the attempt at humor, but it's become very clear that Sisters of Battle will never receive their plastic models.

I'm just gonna quit 40k. Probably donate my models to some local store. Keep the sentimental conversions as art pieces.

There's no sense continuing to hold onto a game that will never give me what I need to enjoy it.