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Further confirmation of the big Magnus being the one slated for release; the photograph of the discarded box that started all these rumours originally clearly shows the big one as the cover image.
Quite aside from it being non-sensical from a production PoV to use the wrong mini to test the box layout, it would also be illegal if sold like that.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
So people are saying the Ahriman in this thread is the new plastic one? He looks identical to the metal one. Kharn changed quite a bit. Why would they make a carbon copy of Ahriman?
- "Squats are NEVER being done. Ever. You will see fishman in space before Squats. And there is no love for fishmans in space :("
So is this confirmation that Squats are being done? I mean Fishmans in Space, are they not Tau? I see a lot of people saying Tau are fish on land. So since we already have it, does it mean Squats are done and just waiting for a release?
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
- Custodes are older than Thunder Warriors. Info about their creation is heavily guarded by the Emperor. No packers.
- Thousand Sons will have scalable psychic powers.
- Inferno should be ready for pre-release February the 4th!
- "Squats are NEVER being done. Ever. You will see fishman in space before Squats. And there is no love for fishmans in space :("
Custodes older than TW... how could the Emperor produce crude SM after creating Custodes, the best marine-y guys ever?
Scalable psychic powers are awesome.
Only Feb??? Damn
Why do people keep hope on squats?
Davor wrote:So is this confirmation that Squats are being done? I mean Fishmans in Space, are they not Tau? I see a lot of people saying Tau are fish on land. So since we already have it, does it mean Squats are done and just waiting for a release?
Tau aren't fish.
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- Custodes are older than Thunder Warriors. Info about their creation is heavily guarded by the Emperor. No packers.
- Thousand Sons will have scalable psychic powers.
- Inferno should be ready for pre-release February the 4th!
- "Squats are NEVER being done. Ever. You will see fishman in space before Squats. And there is no love for fishmans in space :("
Custodes older than TW... how could the Emperor produce crude SM after creating Custodes, the best marine-y guys ever?
Scalable psychic powers are awesome.
Only Feb??? Damn
Why do people keep hope on squats?
Davor wrote:So is this confirmation that Squats are being done? I mean Fishmans in Space, are they not Tau? I see a lot of people saying Tau are fish on land. So since we already have it, does it mean Squats are done and just waiting for a release?
Tau aren't fish.
Space Sharks though I for one would love to see a race of Space Octopi. Technically they aren't fish either, but feth it, I want an army of Cthulu.
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A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
- Custodes are older than Thunder Warriors. Info about their creation is heavily guarded by the Emperor. No packers.
Custodes older than TW... how could the Emperor produce crude SM after creating Custodes, the best marine-y guys ever?
Because Custodes aren't super-marines. They are prototype Primarchs.
Consider, a Space Marine is an ordinary human surgically implanted with cultured organs that mess with his biochemistry to make them super-human in many ways. Those organs can reproduce themselves but an individual marine, assuming all the hormonal messing around even leaves them fertile, would produce nothing more or less than a normal human child if he mated with a human woman and didn't accidentally kill her.
A Primarch, on the other hand, is a wholly engineered being, built from the ground (or indeed, if Magnus is to be believed, the very soul) upwards to be exactly what they are. They may or may not be "fertile" but their entire species is male, assuming they are even all the same species as each other.
The Marine project was stabilised by donations from the Primarchs, which is why the Legions all have characters that match their donor which at a minimum means they were completed after the start of the Primarch project.
So how did the Emperor create the Custodes? Same way he created the Primarchs but on a much reduced scale. I reckon they are similarly wholly engineered and thus a separate species of their own, unable to self replicate because the Emperor never gave them the means. They may be "immortal" in that they don't age but I bet the Emperor never left any notes on how to make more to replace combat losses.
I bet they're resource intensive to spawn too, like needing special nutrients and daily care in the vat to mature properly.
Which goes back to why the Marine project was started in the first place: the Emperor couldn't make enough Custodes fast enough to win a war for control of Earth so he made (or commissioned; there are several things that suggest that at least some of the work on it was not His own) the Marine implants to quickly generate an overwhelming, easily replaceable force from the masses of humans that were just running around outside the lab.
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"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
Davor wrote: I mean Fishmans in Space, are they not Tau? I see a lot of people saying Tau are fish on land.
Tau are not fish. The fish names for their units are Imperial code names, much like how NATO had their own names for all the Soviet tanks/aircraft/etc.
There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices.
Davor wrote: I mean Fishmans in Space, are they not Tau? I see a lot of people saying Tau are fish on land.
Tau are not fish. The fish names for their units are Imperial code names, much like how NATO had their own names for all the Soviet tanks/aircraft/etc.
Indeed not; Tau are clearly space goats.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
casvalremdeikun wrote: Sword is in the first image Ghaz posted, Center sprue near the bottom.
So it is. Not sure how I missed that one. Still can't see a different head, but its hard to tell without being able to see both sides of the sprues.
And now that I see them off the sprue, I can see them on the sprue as well. Right next to the gigantic sword I missed earlier. I'm going to go hang my head in shame now.
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Vector Strike wrote: Custodes older than TW... how could the Emperor produce crude SM after creating Custodes, the best marine-y guys ever?
Same reason why Emperor did not create armies of primarch? Too time consuming to create enough custodes to take over the galaxy. Space marines are mass production stuff.
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Man, I love the turret of that hover tank! So sweet... would love if they'd sell it separately (seems unlikely, though).
That dreadnought (Contemptor?) model is really awesome, too!
But Magnus has to be my least favorite 40k model in the last year... looks terrible to me, and even worse given that it's so large with so little detail (imo).
MajorTom11 wrote: Now that we have had a closer look at this massive model, I like most of it, but the cybernetics randomly in the arms... WHY? Ugh design choice imho
Because he is/was a Space Marine and still has his power armour interfaces/black carapace. I think it's a nice callback to his origins.
MajorTom11 wrote: Now that we have had a closer look at this massive model, I like most of it, but the cybernetics randomly in the arms... WHY? Ugh design choice imho
Because he is/was a Space Marine and still has his power armour interfaces/black carapace. I think it's a nice callback to his origins.
Ummm... he isn't a space marine, he's a primarch, they did not come out of the same process and as far as I know.. And interfaces and black carapace I could live with, it is the bicep being apparently complete cyber cabling under the skin that makes no sense to me. Also, Daemon Princi'ing used to mean a bit more than wings and bird feet, would have liked to see a bit more tzeentch in his DNA but again, it is just my preference...
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Mr_Rose wrote: Further confirmation of the big Magnus being the one slated for release; the photograph of the discarded box that started all these rumours originally clearly shows the big one as the cover image.
Quite aside from it being non-sensical from a production PoV to use the wrong mini to test the box layout, it would also be illegal if sold like that.
I don't think anyone was actually questioning this...
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
SickSix wrote: Well Magnus is a modelling marvel. The size, the detail, the magnificence of him.
And thank god the horns don't actually cover his eyes!
The Custodes Dread is super sexy!
Designed by Matt Holland of new tau and plastic Thunderwolves fame.
As a weird aside, my favourite GW designer is Alex hedstrom. I have not seen his name attached to any products in the last couple of years so I asked Darren Latham on Twitter if he is still with the company. I was assured that he is. He previously designed the whole space hulk boxed game by himself, so it is safe to assume that he is working on something big.
Skerr wrote: I am trying to wrap my head around what scalable psychic powers could be. Any thoughts out there?
Perhaps powers increase with army size? I dunno...
Looking forward to seeing tzaangors.
Probably means the powers can be cast as basic or advanced.
Or also "If you use 1 dice to cast, this effect, if you use 2 dice to cast base effect +1" etc would be a easy way to scale. More power you throw at a spell the more It can do "usually"
Davor wrote: I mean Fishmans in Space, are they not Tau? I see a lot of people saying Tau are fish on land.
Tau are not fish. The fish names for their units are Imperial code names, much like how NATO had their own names for all the Soviet tanks/aircraft/etc.
Tau have hooves. Presumably, they chew of the cud.
Man, I love the turret of that hover tank! So sweet... would love if they'd sell it separately (seems unlikely, though).
That dreadnought (Contemptor?) model is really awesome, too!
But Magnus has to be my least favorite 40k model in the last year... looks terrible to me, and even worse given that it's so large with so little detail (imo).
those hover tanks are sexy
are you sure Magnus has little detail???
his armor and wings look to be dripping in detail...
I know what i'm getting for Christmas
Because Custodes aren't super-marines. They are prototype Primarchs.
Consider, a Space Marine is an ordinary human surgically implanted with cultured organs that mess with his biochemistry to make them super-human in many ways. Those organs can reproduce themselves but an individual marine, assuming all the hormonal messing around even leaves them fertile, would produce nothing more or less than a normal human child if he mated with a human woman and didn't accidentally kill her.
A Primarch, on the other hand, is a wholly engineered being, built from the ground (or indeed, if Magnus is to be believed, the very soul) upwards to be exactly what they are. They may or may not be "fertile" but their entire species is male, assuming they are even all the same species as each other.
The Marine project was stabilised by donations from the Primarchs, which is why the Legions all have characters that match their donor which at a minimum means they were completed after the start of the Primarch project.
So how did the Emperor create the Custodes? Same way he created the Primarchs but on a much reduced scale. I reckon they are similarly wholly engineered and thus a separate species of their own, unable to self replicate because the Emperor never gave them the means. They may be "immortal" in that they don't age but I bet the Emperor never left any notes on how to make more to replace combat losses.
I bet they're resource intensive to spawn too, like needing special nutrients and daily care in the vat to mature properly.
Which goes back to why the Marine project was started in the first place: the Emperor couldn't make enough Custodes fast enough to win a war for control of Earth so he made (or commissioned; there are several things that suggest that at least some of the work on it was not His own) the Marine implants to quickly generate an overwhelming, easily replaceable force from the masses of humans that were just running around outside the lab.
Beta-test Primarchs... never thought on that angle. Thanks for the info.
- Custodes are older than Thunder Warriors. Info about their creation is heavily guarded by the Emperor. No packers.
Custodes older than TW... how could the Emperor produce crude SM after creating Custodes, the best marine-y guys ever?
Because Custodes aren't super-marines. They are prototype Primarchs.
Consider, a Space Marine is an ordinary human surgically implanted with cultured organs that mess with his biochemistry to make them super-human in many ways. Those organs can reproduce themselves but an individual marine, assuming all the hormonal messing around even leaves them fertile, would produce nothing more or less than a normal human child if he mated with a human woman and didn't accidentally kill her.
A Primarch, on the other hand, is a wholly engineered being, built from the ground (or indeed, if Magnus is to be believed, the very soul) upwards to be exactly what they are. They may or may not be "fertile" but their entire species is male, assuming they are even all the same species as each other.
The Marine project was stabilised by donations from the Primarchs, which is why the Legions all have characters that match their donor which at a minimum means they were completed after the start of the Primarch project.
So how did the Emperor create the Custodes? Same way he created the Primarchs but on a much reduced scale. I reckon they are similarly wholly engineered and thus a separate species of their own, unable to self replicate because the Emperor never gave them the means. They may be "immortal" in that they don't age but I bet the Emperor never left any notes on how to make more to replace combat losses.
I bet they're resource intensive to spawn too, like needing special nutrients and daily care in the vat to mature properly.
Which goes back to why the Marine project was started in the first place: the Emperor couldn't make enough Custodes fast enough to win a war for control of Earth so he made (or commissioned; there are several things that suggest that at least some of the work on it was not His own) the Marine implants to quickly generate an overwhelming, easily replaceable force from the masses of humans that were just running around outside the lab.
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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