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So, This is just out of curiosity, What would the Tau players out there use to take out a Knight? (Not a big problem for me since we only use super heavies/gargantuans if both players agree to it)

Personaly I got my Stormsurge! I like it, But even though it takes out Baneblades and Fellblades left and right, It has never managed to kill a Knight, of the Imperial or Renegade or Daemon variety.. xD I always get super bad luck and his shield blocks it all or I miss.. xD

So I started wondering, What is other people facing Knights and titans and super heavies with? Do you usre your trusty Stormsurge? Or mayhaps Fusion Blaster armed deep striking Crisis Suits? Or something else?

/MSU firewarriors armed with haywire grenades/ (sarcasm)

Rip tides, what else? you can only take so many hits and since they can fire and jet pack, they are just going to keep forceing you to get closer, then hit you from 2 sides.

Riptide would be my first choice, but a Hammerhead (with Rail Gun) can inflict damage quite easily as well on them (at least, they did when I was using it. Not sure what other people's experience with it are)

Fusion Suits, Stormsurge, or in casual games Hammerhead railguns.

Thing about tau to remember is as well, especially vs a knight, they dont necessarily need big guns to pen it with. They have a much better chance of glancing it off the table in turn one.

Saw that happen twice at a store i got to, dude was running 2 knights and some deep strike units, both games he got tabled turn one from getting glanced off the table.

The gimmick is to attack it from more than one side. Stormsurges are great but the player with the knight will likely place the shield in that direction. So if you can get a tank/Riptide/Fusion CS squad fire from a different direction, you should be OK.

Retaliation cadre has a host of really good options against knights. The key to killing knights is attacking it from both sides. So multiple small deep strike units are really effective against it. Str7 is fine for this and tau have it in abundance without even tailoring a list. If you have fusions - even better.

I run this almost every game now when I play tau.
Retaliation cadre

Commander - penchip - 2 rocket pods - irridium
3x Missile sides with smart missiles(plasma would work good too depending on your meta) targets locks. +6 missle drones. (Relentless in this formation )

Then I take 3 2 man crisis teams - usually 1 has fussion 1 has plasma and 1 has CIB.

The riptide takes HBC and fusion.




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 Loremaster Of Awesomeness wrote:
Riptide would be my first choice, but a Hammerhead (with Rail Gun) can inflict damage quite easily as well on them (at least, they did when I was using it. Not sure what other people's experience with it are)

If it's a long strike hes a sure bet to do some serious damage to a knight. 1 Game I killed a typhon with just a gun rig railgun and long strike. It's a lucky shot but super heavies melt to ap1.

Once my brother was playing against three knights and every knight died turn two because of the all of the EMP firewarriors he brought.

Don't do that though, its a terrible tactic and will lose you the game, but it is still funny to me that he actually made it work.

I run an Optimized Stealth Cadre (because I have a ton of old Stealth Suits and love them) so I usually don't have a problem with Knights, being able to hit them in the rear armour with the formation.

Genestealers, on the other hand...

Stormsurge, Melta Crisis and Y'vahra.

my burst tide with ecpa in Dawns Blade has been doing work. about 4 how a volley before shields. and it's mostly immune to the return fire.

otherwise the usual, fusion suits, tank hunting broadsides, and I like d's CuB suits to the rear.

Hunter contingent you'd need a storm surge I reckon.

 Fruzzle wrote:
my burst tide with ecpa in Dawns Blade has been doing work. about 4 how a volley before shields. and it's mostly immune to the return fire.

otherwise the usual, fusion suits, tank hunting broadsides, and I like d's CuB suits to the rear.

Hunter contingent you'd need a storm surge I reckon.

I see alot of good solutions vs Imperial and renegade knights. But how do you handle the demon knight with its all around 5+ invuln and quite possibly cursed earth and grimoured back up. After reading the tau dex recently (not a player of tau...yet) I think they as a faction have the best methods of dealing with alot of 40k super heavy and monsterous/gigantic monsterous creatures. As a matter of fact its hard to see how a good tau list loses at all. As a chaos player I fear fighting them far more than any other faction. But my take is, and its one of only theory hammer, I would try Stormsurge D missle shots first (if you can land markerlights on them) with fusion crisis suits as a back up. I wouldnt count on glancing a knight to death if you are not playing necrons. Esp with renegade knight lists are running lots of heretek psykers for that side av 13. Not saying it cant a happen, just I would not count on it.

These need more mentions.

Fusion suits. 4 suits, 8 meltas, 208 points.

Pirhana wing with fusion. Not as good at dedicated anti-armor, but if you've 5+ fish it's good. If you've the full formation than sort your drones black out the sun. They will get no +1 night fighting cover from your guns.

Broadsides do /okay/

Suits with 2 CiBs do well too, especially with a commander with puretide chip. I run my commander with two cibs. Add in three suits with ion blaster, and with the tank hunter they do 5 glances on average to front armor (when given marker support) and 10 against rear armor.

Riptides are alright at dropping Knights, but aren't stellar and can easily get cornered.

I think the Optimised Stealth Cadre was designed to take out Knights.