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Another day, another 'look how pathetic this guy is' thread.

Sigh.

Wolfblade wrote:Has he ever agreed to an army swap? I doubt he will as that would jeopardize his ego, but still. Maybe refuse to play him until he does. And obviously flat out refuse to play his made up legion if he refuses to accept any form of balance.

(I mean, a free libby being BAD? In what world are free units bad? Or at worst, a major discount on a land raider.)

Nope, the closest he has ever come to was building a second army and giving it to his opponent to play.
I pretty much refuse to play him anyway (baring moments of drunkenness)
Oh most definitely, he has already been informed of my opinion (It is a wishlist power army with no downsides and one will refuse to face it unless it is altered drastically)

jhe90 wrote:

Basic.. Make him pay for every upgrade...
But being Timmy ... Free relics and TDA....

Refuse to play that legion...
If you do he only say you did it once before... Why not now.n

In all honesty I would not be surprised.
And as I have said above, I am not going to play it.

Ashiraya wrote:Another day, another 'look how pathetic this guy is' thread.

Sigh.

If you have ever actually followed the saga this started as a way for me to vent my frustrations. It has developed into a method for me to vent my disbelief at Timmy's apparent inability to grasp concepts like 'balance' and 'fair'. Hell, he seems to think "1.5K points" menas the other guy brings 1.5K and he brings 2-2.5K. Likewise with 1K games, but if you so mush as dare bring a powerful unit or something that he was not expecting then you must be cheating. Remember, this is the person whom claimed that having both a Macro Cannon and a Stormsword in a 3K game was OP, but it was perfectly fine for him to bring two Vindicatos, a Vindicator Laser destroyer, an Autocannon pred, a Melta pred, a Executioner pred, a Landraider, a Spartan, a Typhon and a contemptor.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Another day, another 'look how pathetic this guy is' thread.

Sigh.

Not following along with the last 3 threads when the links were posted in page 1 of the current thread.

Sigh.

See two can play that game.

...What? That someone makes three separate threads to tell us how bad one local guy is somehow makes it better?

What fruitful discussion is there to be had in pointing fingers and laughing?

If he is so horrible then just don't play against him.

 Ashiraya wrote:
...What fruitful discussion is there to be had in pointing fingers and laughing?...

I'm still waiting for an explanation of what Timmy was trying to do with his Legion so I can offer a constructive counter-proposal...

 Ashiraya wrote:
...What? That someone makes three separate threads to tell us how bad one local guy is somehow makes it better?

What fruitful discussion is there to be had in pointing fingers and laughing?

If he is so horrible then just don't play against him.

Well, we can make suggestions on what might be effective to manage/compromise the player's behaviour, as I have tried to do. Unfortunately any suggestions I make seem to get shot down.

What's wrong with pointing and laughing?
Almost everyone knows a 'Timmy' so it's funny to hear about a Timmy who is so far gone and unreasonable you have to assume he's fictional, if he's acually real it's funnier still, but it makes me think my group's 'Timmy' isn't a lost cause...yet...

 Dakka Wolf wrote:
What's wrong with pointing and laughing?
Almost everyone knows a 'Timmy' so it's funny to hear about a Timmy who is so far gone and unreasonable you have to assume he's fictional, if he's acually real it's funnier still, but it makes me think my group's 'Timmy' isn't a lost cause...yet...

It is in essence just a circle-jerk of egos all feeding one anothers superiority complexes and further validating their own self worth as they tell themselves they will never be as bad as 'that' guy in their own minds. Frankly its a disgusting and subtle form of self-agrandizment and as a patron of slannesh I declair we need more of these threads so I can wallow in my own pride and smugness I do thoroughly enjoy these stories.

 Ashiraya wrote:
...What? That someone makes three separate threads to tell us how bad one local guy is somehow makes it better?

What fruitful discussion is there to be had in pointing fingers and laughing?

If he is so horrible then just don't play against him.

Because, sometimes you just gotta unleash your anger and frustrations with someone being a total cheesemonger. I have ran into this stuff before too and it sucks to play against. It would frustrate anyone if your local "casual" meta was just full of power playing and no tactics. Especially, if you are trying to incorporate tactics into your under-powered army as much as possible, while dealing with the same rotten cheese everyday.

Reavas wrote:

 Dakka Wolf wrote:
What's wrong with pointing and laughing?
Almost everyone knows a 'Timmy' so it's funny to hear about a Timmy who is so far gone and unreasonable you have to assume he's fictional, if he's acually real it's funnier still, but it makes me think my group's 'Timmy' isn't a lost cause...yet...

It is in essence just a circle-jerk of egos all feeding one anothers superiority complexes and further validating their own self worth as they tell themselves they will never be as bad as 'that' guy in their own minds. Frankly its a disgusting and subtle form of self-agrandizment and as a patron of slannesh I declair we need more of these threads so I can wallow in my own pride and smugness I do thoroughly enjoy these stories.

I'd say that's an excellent point but I find myself struggling to keep track of whose side you're on. I wonder which Chaos God gets his jollies from confusion.

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
...What fruitful discussion is there to be had in pointing fingers and laughing?...

I'm still waiting for an explanation of what Timmy was trying to do with his Legion so I can offer a constructive counter-proposal...

Well, his original intention was Assault/Buff psychic. But it has pretty much turned (inevitably) into a wishlist army at the last check, which was a week ago.

Well, we can make suggestions on what might be effective to manage/compromise the player's behaviour, as I have tried to do. Unfortunately any suggestions I make seem to get shot down

They where good, but the best one has to be "just not play him". Guess what a lot of people have started doing The 30K crowd already rejected him when he tried to bring MK 7 marines and a Rapier consisting of four Lascannon barrels stuck on to the prow of a Landspeeder. Horus the Cheese outright refuses to speak with him and myself and the Vikingpirate pretty much dont play against him anymore either, unless it is as part of a multiplayer game. The only one we are really worried about is Gene as he is a genuinely nice guy and a new comer, and does not seem to realise that Timmy is dicking him over.


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Dakka Wolf wrote:What's wrong with pointing and laughing?
Almost everyone knows a 'Timmy' so it's funny to hear about a Timmy who is so far gone and unreasonable you have to assume he's fictional, if he's acually real it's funnier still, but it makes me think my group's 'Timmy' isn't a lost cause...yet...

This should say something. Members of Dakka think that he made up, such is his level of awfulness and yet sadly he exists.

Ashiraya wrote:...What? That someone makes three separate threads to tell us how bad one local guy is somehow makes it better?

What fruitful discussion is there to be had in pointing fingers and laughing?

If he is so horrible then just don't play against him.

Three threads? Look up^. People struggle to believe that he exists. THAT should say something.

 MrVulcanator wrote:
Just finished reading this and the rest of the Timmy Saga. Gotta say he's hilarious.

I kind of hope that you'll record a game with him sometime so we can have some ghits and shiggles.

Ask and thy shall receive, he has just contacted me asking for an all infantry game, unknown points level yet but will probably want to use his legion. I am not inclined to take it, but if you want a genuine battrep about a game with him then let just say. I have nothing else to do on the club night.

Do it. We must have a report of this. Can you post pictures too?

I second Verviedi's comment.

Yeah let's see this legion that gets a free librarian as a limitation... Plus your stuff too, obviously

Okay, its a go.
Timmy has also updated his RoW apparently:
If you kill the free Libby you get +2 VP's
If you kill the Veteran section with the Landraider, AND their Landraider you get +1 VP.

Oh, and one of the special charaters allows you to bring Predator's and Vindicator's as none-comp Troops. This is apparently balanced by the squadrons giving the enemy +3 VP's if they are destroyed.

Didn't this TImmy have some issue with tanks?

pm713 wrote:
Didn't this TImmy have some issue with tanks?

Yes

pm713 wrote:
Didn't this TImmy have some issue with tanks?

As long as the tanks are on his side, I'm sure they're okay. He wouldn't use anything one could see as unbalanced, surely not!

 master of ordinance wrote:

pm713 wrote:
Didn't this TImmy have some issue with tanks?

Yes

I'm guessing their tanks are the exception to that problem.

Sounds like a riot.
If you win he might want to check your dice for weights.

Kick Timmy's ass and drink his tears! I look forward to hearing about it.

Bring some of your own free stuff too, under your own special formation. Fair is fair after all...

I vote for not playing against home brew stuff in general, but that's just me.

 master of ordinance wrote:
Okay, its a go.
Timmy has also updated his RoW apparently:
If you kill the free Libby you get +2 VP's
If you kill the Veteran section with the Landraider, AND their Landraider you get +1 VP.

Oh, and one of the special charaters allows you to bring Predator's and Vindicator's as none-comp Troops. This is apparently balanced by the squadrons giving the enemy +3 VP's if they are destroyed.

On the plus side, you know he's going to bring that stuff now so you can load up on a ton of anti-tank weaponry

I can't stop reading about this trainwreck player. Please keep us informed. You're the hero Dakka deserves for playing him!

 kronk wrote:
I can't stop reading about this trainwreck player. Please keep us informed. You're the hero Dakka deserves for playing him!

Thanks Kronk

I have informed the others (barring Gene [and Timmy, obviously]) about this thread, and its fellows, so they can contribute if they wish to do so (big hint guys).

Okay, so an update on Timmy, and the coming test this Monday. It was going to be an "all infantry" game at 1.5K this Monday ( he does not go any lower) but just today I recieved this gem:

Monday up to 2k normal lists but will you use the death watch as ur primary army and use guard as alies as if you bring tons of tanks how am i supposed to see if the soul eaters are any good

So, Timmy now wants to dictate his opponents army too. And apparently he has a major problem with tanks.

I'm in awe, MoO.

Honestly, I'd tell him the agreed upon game was 1.5k and you'll bring whatever you please. He doesn't get to dictate your army any more than you get to dictate his homebrew bullgak. (Though if you did dictate it to him I imagine it would be infinitely better written and more balanced!)

Do keep us informed. I've been following the saga of Timmy for a while.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

 master of ordinance wrote:

 kronk wrote:
I can't stop reading about this trainwreck player. Please keep us informed. You're the hero Dakka deserves for playing him!

Thanks Kronk

I have informed the others (barring Gene [and Timmy, obviously]) about this thread, and its fellows, so they can contribute if they wish to do so (big hint guys).

Okay, so an update on Timmy, and the coming test this Monday. It was going to be an "all infantry" game at 1.5K this Monday ( he does not go any lower) but just today I recieved this gem:

Monday up to 2k normal lists but will you use the death watch as ur primary army and use guard as alies as if you bring tons of tanks how am i supposed to see if the soul eaters are any good

So, Timmy now wants to dictate his opponents army too. And apparently he has a major problem with tanks.

Refuse him and tell him him setting his opponent's army up for failure will not tell him if his legion is any good. And also a good list brings AT. ergo, if he doesn't bring AT, his list is bad.

Example: If I bring only guardians in an eldar list, is the eldar codex bad? No, of course not, my list building was simply crap choices, which makes them SEEM bad.

Guys:
I have a sodding Stormlord AND a Marocannon emplacement.
Do you really think I am going to let Timmy dictate my army to me?