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 Verviedi wrote:
For the sake of all people who don't like downloading files, here is the report in Google Docs form. MoO, if you upload your own Google Doc version, I'll remove this.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yWvw2_Z4G98x7_EgpgoYwuiRAy0feM8fen-Ffmdn44E

And now to actually read it.

Much appreciated. Will now read.

As a side question --- does Timmy read DakkaDakka and does he know about this?

 master of ordinance wrote:

Oh, and apparently IA volume two book two is out of date, so using Super Heavies from there is cheating, one should draw them from the GW Apocalypse book, even if they do not exist within it.

Is that where he gets the rules for his Terminus Ultra?

Bravo good Sir! Bravo!
Your battle rep is a thing of beauty and amusement.

The fact the primarch is considered on par with Magnus (psychically) is little insulting lore wise. (which is obviously nothing compared to turning a lost legion that was COMPLETELY annihilated from recorded history into his own personal mary sue army)

 Wolfblade wrote:
The fact the primarch is considered on par with Magnus (psychically) is little insulting lore wise. (which is obviously nothing compared to turning a lost legion into his own personal mary sue army)

That's why the OP converted them to the way of the crater.

 Insectum7 wrote:
Admittedly, it's a little petty of me, but I love clobbering guys like that in 40K. Resoundingly winning against a cheater while you yourself are playing completely straight is just the best.

Bonus points if they throw dice.

Life's too short for that gak. Better just to not play him any more. As the daughter would say "thanks, I'm good."


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 master of ordinance wrote:
Well I say met. I was waiting for a bus and he happened to show up.

Have you considered a restraining order?

I got a groat says the next iteration of Mutran-Ra will have Eternal Warrior. For the same points.

In the future, maybe Timmy should spend a few less points on blinging up characters, and a few more points on some credible anti-armor units. Just a thought.

I actually wouldn't mind taking on the Soul Eaters with my Dark Angels successors. "FIRST legion, fool! What!

 Grand.Master.Raziel wrote:
I got a groat says the next iteration of Mutran-Ra will have Eternal Warrior. For the same points.

In the future, maybe Timmy should spend a few less points on blinging up characters, and a few more points on some credible anti-armor units. Just a thought.

I actually wouldn't mind taking on the Soul Eaters with my Dark Angels successors. "FIRST legion, fool! What!

Yeah ML5 was a face palm. A space marine equal to Magnus.
Next tule. Cast on 2+ and ignore perils?

Plus eternal warrior of course....
Maybe a strengh d sword too lol?

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:
The fact the primarch is considered on par with Magnus (psychically) is little insulting lore wise. (which is obviously nothing compared to turning a lost legion into his own personal mary sue army)

That's why the OP converted them to the way of the crater.

Can I use that phrase?

I'm sorry, ML 5? For 175 points?

Wut?

 gnome_idea_what wrote:

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 Wolfblade wrote:
The fact the primarch is considered on par with Magnus (psychically) is little insulting lore wise. (which is obviously nothing compared to turning a lost legion into his own personal mary sue army)

That's why the OP converted them to the way of the crater.

Can I use that phrase?

I got no issue with that just be aware I don't own the copyright you will have to send ten cents to my FLGS manager every time you do.

 JNAProductions wrote:
I'm sorry, ML 5? For 175 points?

Wut?

And T5..... Marine. With so thing like a refractor field.

 jhe90 wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
I'm sorry, ML 5? For 175 points?

Wut?

And T5..... Marine. With so thing like a refractor field.

He's riding an invisible bike that trades mobility for durability...makes perfect sense.

Otto Weston wrote:

As a side question --- does Timmy read DakkaDakka and does he know about this?

Obviously Timmy does not know anything about this, and no, he does not really read Dakka anymore. When mentioned Dakka to him years back he commented on how he had come here looking for free rules and the such but found nothing, and when I suggested a couple of years back that he put his homebrews up here so that other Dakkanoughts could help balance them he said: "Why should I let strangers nerf my army".

Scott-S6 wrote:
Is that where he gets the rules for his Terminus Ultra?

No idea in all honesty.

Dakka Wolf wrote:Bravo good Sir! Bravo!
Your battle rep is a thing of beauty and amusement.

I am glad that you enjoyed it

Wolfblade wrote:The fact the primarch is considered on par with Magnus (psychically) is little insulting lore wise. (which is obviously nothing compared to turning a lost legion that was COMPLETELY annihilated from recorded history into his own personal mary sue army)

It is not a Primarch, it is a Praetor special character of some sort. He didnt bring his homebrew Primarch this time, and yes, I know exactly what you mean about his bringing back a lost legion, myself and the VikingPirate have brought it up with him, but he just reeled off the old GW speel about them allowing people to make up their own chapters, so it should be fine in 30K as well.

Grand.Master.Raziel wrote:I got a groat says the next iteration of Mutran-Ra will have Eternal Warrior. For the same points.

It would not surprise me.

In the future, maybe Timmy should spend a few less points on blinging up characters, and a few more points on some credible anti-armor units. Just a thought.

But if he did that he would not be able to bring his super killy mary sues!

JNAProductions wrote:I'm sorry, ML 5? For 175 points?

Wut?

Dont ask. I have no doubt that the other stats are just as broken, although I never got to sample them owing to Mutran-Ra hiding like a coward the entire game before making the mistake of running away from the Sisters of Silence and into a Demolition Cannon shell.

jhe90 wrote:

And T5..... Marine. With so thing like a refractor field.

Put it this way: Timmy does not think that S and T 5 are that bad for Marines. One of his older homebrews was a Chapter Master with Primarch equivalent stats,

Then I proppse.

Wargear. Nerf bat.

Any unit can take nerf bat that's not a tank, flier or walker/mc/gmc

Counts as a one handed weapon for rules wise.
On hit. Any homebrew. All stats and mastery levels are reduced to one. Any buffs are reduced to 1 inch range and and all weapons profiles reduced to str 1.

1 point per model.

Troll buster.

If this rile disagreed the nerf bat takes a second profile.
Strength D. Ap1. Flesh bane. Armour bane, sunder, 2+ poison, machine killer, master crafted, relic weapon, prefered enemy homebrew.

Ignores reanimation protocols, fnp, armour saves and only can take inv save at D. AP1. With special rules apply.

Optinal Nerf arrow...

Same rules.
Fired a users BS.
Range unlimited, ignore cover, .. Can be guided by tau using marker lights.

In your next game you should 'borrow' one of his homebrew characters and use it as a part of your army and go out of your way to make it kill as much of his army as possible and then see what his response is he can hardly call it op because that would be admitting that his original character was broken

 jhe90 wrote:
Then I proppse.

Wargear. Nerf bat.

Any unit can take nerf bat that's not a tank, flier or walker/mc/gmc

Counts as a one handed weapon for rules wise.
On hit. Any homebrew. All stats and mastery levels are reduced to one. Any buffs are reduced to 1 inch range and and all weapons profiles reduced to str 1.

1 point per model.

Troll buster.

If this rile disagreed the nerf bat takes a second profile.
Strength D. Ap1. Flesh bane. Armour bane, sunder, 2+ poison, machine killer, master crafted, relic weapon, prefered enemy homebrew.

Ignores reanimation protocols, fnp, armour saves and only can take inv save at D. AP1. With special rules apply.

Optinal Nerf arrow...

Same rules.
Fired a users BS.
Range unlimited, ignore cover, .. Can be guided by tau using marker lights.

I am so going to model that on a Thunderwolf.
Got an Apoc game next week and one of the SW apoc formations can charge from reserves.
Just gotta survive our Timmy's full BS Overwatch.

Nah, model it with a rubber shield and a squeezy bottle of PVA.

PVA Glue

Range: 36"
S: 1
AP: -
Type: Assault 3
Special Rules: Beam, Glue

OR

Range: Melee
S: User
AP: -
Special Rules: Glue

Glue: Any unit hit by a weapon with the Glue special rule gains the Sticky special rule. In addition to this, if a weapon with the glue special rule has more than one shot then each shot can be made against a different target, with the usual LOS and range restrictions, if the player wishes.

Sticky: A model with the Sticky special rule moves as if moving through difficult terrain and has its Initiative stat reduced to 1 if applicable. This effect lasts until the model spends a whole game turn in a River. If one model in a unit has this special rule then all models in the unit gain it as they all attempt to clean the Sticky model, getting sticky themselves. Models do not lose the Sticky rule by leaving units affected by Sticky.

Rubber Shield

A model carrying a Rubber shield has a 6+ Invulnerable save. In addition to this, any attacks made against the bearer of the Rubber Shield by models with the Sticky special Rule do not affect the bearer of the Rubber Shield or any unit they are attached to but are instead reflected back against the firing model where they will score an automatic hit. If the attack is a blast then you do not need to roll scatter, the blast will score a direct hit on the firing model. Hits reflected in this manner may not be passed to other models via Look out, Sir! To Wound rolls and Armour penetration are resolved using the Strength of the weapon fired by the model, and saves and vehicle damage using the AP of the weapon fired by the model.

The player controlling the model with the Rubber Shield may also call out "I am rubber and you are glue and so whatever you throw at me will bounce off and stick to you!" if they wish to do so.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
Then I proppse.

Wargear. Nerf bat.

Any unit can take nerf bat that's not a tank, flier or walker/mc/gmc

Counts as a one handed weapon for rules wise.
On hit. Any homebrew. All stats and mastery levels are reduced to one. Any buffs are reduced to 1 inch range and and all weapons profiles reduced to str 1.

1 point per model.

Troll buster.

If this rile disagreed the nerf bat takes a second profile.
Strength D. Ap1. Flesh bane. Armour bane, sunder, 2+ poison, machine killer, master crafted, relic weapon, prefered enemy homebrew.

Ignores reanimation protocols, fnp, armour saves and only can take inv save at D. AP1. With special rules apply.

Optinal Nerf arrow...

Same rules.
Fired a users BS.
Range unlimited, ignore cover, .. Can be guided by tau using marker lights.

I am so going to model that on a Thunderwolf.
Got an Apoc game next week and one of the SW apoc formations can charge from reserves.
Just gotta survive our Timmy's full BS Overwatch.

I think I missed force and instant death but yeah... I'm not sure even without anything could survive that short of a titan, super heavy etc. Maybe forgot giving I lance ir melts... But id need then to range nerf arrow....

20 feet... Then all inside 3 metres double pen

If model that. We NEED pictures.

 jhe90 wrote:

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
Then I proppse.

Wargear. Nerf bat.

Any unit can take nerf bat that's not a tank, flier or walker/mc/gmc

Counts as a one handed weapon for rules wise.
On hit. Any homebrew. All stats and mastery levels are reduced to one. Any buffs are reduced to 1 inch range and and all weapons profiles reduced to str 1.

1 point per model.

Troll buster.

If this rile disagreed the nerf bat takes a second profile.
Strength D. Ap1. Flesh bane. Armour bane, sunder, 2+ poison, machine killer, master crafted, relic weapon, prefered enemy homebrew.

Ignores reanimation protocols, fnp, armour saves and only can take inv save at D. AP1. With special rules apply.

Optinal Nerf arrow...

Same rules.
Fired a users BS.
Range unlimited, ignore cover, .. Can be guided by tau using marker lights.

I am so going to model that on a Thunderwolf.
Got an Apoc game next week and one of the SW apoc formations can charge from reserves.
Just gotta survive our Timmy's full BS Overwatch.

I think I missed force and instant death but yeah... I'm not sure even without anything could survive that short of a titan, super heavy etc. Maybe forgot giving I lance ir melts... But id need then to range nerf arrow....

20 feet... Then all inside 3 metres double pen

If model that. We NEED pictures.

Will do.
Hope the first profile for each also has S- like Markerlights, doesn't actually do any damage, just Nerfs.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:
Then I proppse.

Wargear. Nerf bat.

Any unit can take nerf bat that's not a tank, flier or walker/mc/gmc

Counts as a one handed weapon for rules wise.
On hit. Any homebrew. All stats and mastery levels are reduced to one. Any buffs are reduced to 1 inch range and and all weapons profiles reduced to str 1.

1 point per model.

Troll buster.

If this rile disagreed the nerf bat takes a second profile.
Strength D. Ap1. Flesh bane. Armour bane, sunder, 2+ poison, machine killer, master crafted, relic weapon, prefered enemy homebrew.

Ignores reanimation protocols, fnp, armour saves and only can take inv save at D. AP1. With special rules apply.

Optinal Nerf arrow...

Same rules.
Fired a users BS.
Range unlimited, ignore cover, .. Can be guided by tau using marker lights.

I am so going to model that on a Thunderwolf.
Got an Apoc game next week and one of the SW apoc formations can charge from reserves.
Just gotta survive our Timmy's full BS Overwatch.

I think I missed force and instant death but yeah... I'm not sure even without anything could survive that short of a titan, super heavy etc. Maybe forgot giving I lance ir melts... But id need then to range nerf arrow....

20 feet... Then all inside 3 metres double pen

If model that. We NEED pictures.

Will do.
Hope the first profile for each also has S- like Markerlights, doesn't actually do any damage, just Nerfs.

Yeah.. S-

Just knocks everything to 1 and renders a homebrew worse than a grot. No damage as to wound etc. Its a marker light. Nerf arrows can be boosted by marker light for added BS... already has ignore cover by default.

Nerf arrow and nerf bat both only take troll buster profile if opponent disagrees with nerf bat.

If you wanted you probably could make a grenade profile too...

 Frazzled wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
Admittedly, it's a little petty of me, but I love clobbering guys like that in 40K. Resoundingly winning against a cheater while you yourself are playing completely straight is just the best.

Bonus points if they throw dice.

Life's too short for that gak. Better just to not play him any more. As the daughter would say "thanks, I'm good."

Not if I'm having fun.

 master of ordinance wrote:

Scott-S6 wrote:
Is that where he gets the rules for his Terminus Ultra?

No idea in all honesty.

That was sarcasm. The only current datasheet for the terminus ultra is in an Ultramarines only apoc formation so his complaints about which current book you source your rules from is enormously hypocritical.

 master of ordinance wrote:

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
Why is IA2:2e out of date? Any reason?

GW Apocalypse apparently supersedes it.

A GW staff member said so. Apparently.

Last I checked unless a book explicitly overwrites another book updating proceeds unit-by-unit. And given that 6e Apocalypse has all of one unit that was in IA2...

Scott-S6 wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:

Scott-S6 wrote:
Is that where he gets the rules for his Terminus Ultra?

No idea in all honesty.

That was sarcasm. The only current datasheet for the terminus ultra is in an Ultramarines only apoc formation so his complaints about which current book you source your rules from is enormously hypocritical.

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for that, next time he moans I will bring that up.

jhe90 wrote:Then I proppse.

Wargear. Nerf bat.

Any unit can take nerf bat that's not a tank, flier or walker/mc/gmc

Counts as a one handed weapon for rules wise.
On hit. Any homebrew. All stats and mastery levels are reduced to one. Any buffs are reduced to 1 inch range and and all weapons profiles reduced to str 1.

1 point per model.

Troll buster.

If this rile disagreed the nerf bat takes a second profile.
Strength D. Ap1. Flesh bane. Armour bane, sunder, 2+ poison, machine killer, master crafted, relic weapon, prefered enemy homebrew.

Ignores reanimation protocols, fnp, armour saves and only can take inv save at D. AP1. With special rules apply.

Optinal Nerf arrow...

Same rules.
Fired a users BS.
Range unlimited, ignore cover, .. Can be guided by tau using marker lights.

Nice , though I dont think I need something quite that powerful yet....

Personally, I'm more of a fan of the Leman Russ Ridiculanator from the previous thread.

That was a fun read.

Thank you!

 kronk wrote:
That was a fun read.

Thank you!

Your welcome...

Oh, and Timmy has just messaged me. He wants me to torrent either the Mechanicum or Crusade Imperialis for him as he wants to buy a Knight for his legions.

Torrent a French cookbook and replace the cover with the Mechanicum cover. Shouldn't be too hard finding a pic to enlarge.

 master of ordinance wrote:

Scott-S6 wrote:

 master of ordinance wrote:

Scott-S6 wrote:
Is that where he gets the rules for his Terminus Ultra?

No idea in all honesty.

That was sarcasm. The only current datasheet for the terminus ultra is in an Ultramarines only apoc formation so his complaints about which current book you source your rules from is enormously hypocritical.

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for that, next time he moans I will bring that up.

There was a datasheet for 4e Apocalypse that had the Terminus Ultra independent of the Apocalypse formation, but I suspect the Apocalypse formation overwrote it.