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whembly wrote: ? Just arguing that he's not sugar coating it...
Who gives a feth what he does and doesn't sugar coat. What matters is what he delivers for people. And right now he and his party are working to repeal legislation that provides health insurance to people who otherwise wouldn't have it.
You want me to remove the sugar coating? What King is saying and doing is fething disgraceful, and everyone who for him and his party needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.
Medical expenses used to be the major cause of bankruptcy. Now it isn't because people can get coverage when they get sick. Nice to see you're in favour of dropping that.
ACA is beyond welfare, a hand up when you are down.
Nope, that's nonsense. If you're referring to the exchanges... uh people have to buy the insurance listed there. Perhaps you're talkign about the expansion of medicaid... in which case you're trying to say that medicaid at the old income limit was okay, but at the new income limit it 'goes beyond welfare'. That argument makes no sense and means nothing.
Let's talk about laws requiring hospitals and healthcare providers to publish their prices so we can comparison shop.
Is a good reform, especially if it were coupled with a reform requiring single pricing of procedures so people weren't forced to use insurers just to access their discounted rates.
Let's have a single independent law that says that insurnce cannot cancel for pre existing conditions.
This argument has sucked for 8 fething years now. How can you and so many others still be posting the same bad argument for so long.
Anyhow, its nonsense to think you can remove pre-existing conditions as a stand-alone. Because if people can access insurance once they are aware of a pre-existing condition, then they won't get insurance until then. You need healthy people paying in to offset the sick people, that's how insurance works. This means you need something to require people to get insurance before they need it. Let's call it a mandate. And then you have to accept that some people are quite poor, and so will need subsidies in able to afford the mandated insurance. Put all that together and you have ACA.
If you don't want insurance companies to be able to deny people coverage, then you need a structure like ACA. That's just how it is.
Let's start sending doctors and drug sales reps to jail for prescribing drugs that people do not need.
Mwahaha! Yeah, that's not going to open a legislative and ethical quagmire at all.
But, I will never support a law that takes money out of my pocket to pay for the healthcare for honey fething boo boo.
I don't think you understand what insurance is.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
But, I will never support a law that takes money out of my pocket to pay for the healthcare for honey fething boo boo.
I don't think you understand what insurance is.
He also just said that he'd rather a kid died than he contribute a tiny amount of money to save her life. I don't think he's going to listen to reason.
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I'm glad I'm not one of the few people I know who are only receiving lifesaving medication due to the ACA. If I were, I'd probably see my impending death sentence as a justification for earning an impending death sentence. "Nothing left to lose" and all that.
I guess what I'm saying is I wonder how many instant security concerns will be born out of this gleeful screwing of the sick and the poor.
I'm not necessarily getting "lifesaving" medication/treatment due to the ACA, but I do deal with some stuff that qualify as pre-existing conditions that are miserable to deal with without medication/treatment. Things that would have put me on an insurance company's coverage chopping block years ago, and things that will make getting health coverage a hell of a lot harder if not impossible while I'm finishing up my college degrees.
On top of that, I'm scheduled to have a surgery in a few months to deal with some nerve damage/mitigate any worse damage. I'm fething terrified of what's coming in the next few months, and whether I'm going to have to deal with the nerve pain for several years at a minimum - along with the long term damage of having it untreated. Today was one of the most miserable days of my life.
If it does end up with the projected repeal with minimal replacement, I really don't know what I'm going to do. Part of me would want to see everyone who is pretty much killed by a repeal to travel to D.C. and die in front of the White House and Congress. Drown them in our corpses.
I hoe things work out for you, whatever happens.
keep your chin up fella.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
BobtheInquisitor wrote: I'm glad I'm not one of the few people I know who are only receiving lifesaving medication due to the ACA. If I were, I'd probably see my impending death sentence as a justification for earning an impending death sentence. "Nothing left to lose" and all that.
I guess what I'm saying is I wonder how many instant security concerns will be born out of this gleeful screwing of the sick and the poor.
Amazing isn't it that the Trump movement can be born out of the despair of life of the downcast, unemployed and uninsured, but according to prominent right wingers that's just going to get worse because they have no right.
That's the amazing thing. People who support Trump are generally the ones that will be most hurt by Trump...
But, I will never support a law that takes money out of my pocket to pay for the healthcare for honey fething boo boo.
I don't think you understand what insurance is.
He also just said that he'd rather a kid died than he contribute a tiny amount of money to save her life. I don't think he's going to listen to reason.
Guess he's against his money being used to anything that doesn't directly benefit him...
So okay let's see. His money can't be used to say pay taxes of police of another city he never visit. Roads he doesn't use? No way! He paid the money! It's not going to be wasted on that! Etc etc etc.
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A Mississippi legislator has sponsored a bill that levies a $1,500 fine on any school that doesn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag within the first hour of class each school day.
Rep. William Shirley, a Republican whose District 84 covers Clark, Jasper and Newton counties, wants to amend Section 37-13-6 of the Mississippi Code of 1972. The code provides stipulations on the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools and when, where and how to present the flag on school grounds.
Shirley’s update would tack on a $1,500 fine for any “violation” of the code, although the bill says “any student or teacher who objects to reciting the oath of allegiance shall be excused from participating without penalty.”
According to Shirley’s House Bill 205, “The failure of any school or school district to require the teachers under their control to have all pupils repeat the oath of allegiance ... shall result in the school or district being assessed a fine for such violation. Any school district found not to be in compliance ... shall be fined in an amount of $1,500 for each violation.”
The mother of a West Harrison High School student said her son was threatened with disciplinary actions for refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance at school in October. Harrison County School District Superintendent Roy Gill said it was a misunderstanding.
School districts found in violation will be required to pay the fine 30 days from the date of the notice of violation.
If approved, the bill would take effect July 1.
TBF you can choose to sing "Tomorrow belongs to me" instead.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
But, I will never support a law that takes money out of my pocket to pay for the healthcare for honey fething boo boo.
I don't think you understand what insurance is.
He also just said that he'd rather a kid died than he contribute a tiny amount of money to save her life. I don't think he's going to listen to reason.
Guys, people don't buy insurance to be altruistic or because they want other people to have lower costs. People buy insurance to help themselves, it's wholly based on self interest. Why do I have home owner insurance? Because while my house isn't currently on fire and I don't expect it to burn down I don't want to have to be solely responsible for coughing up the remainder of my mortgage if it does. Same with health insurance, I have it because while I'm currently healthy if I were to get sick or injured I want the insurance company to use some of the money it makes off my premium payments to help defray my costs. I want health insurance to protect myself and my family, I don't care if my premiums and coverage makes healthcare more affordable or available for others, that's completely out of my control.
And just think of the things that could have been achieved if people stopped bitching about Roe v Wade and actually starting demanding the government live by it?
All the wasted time.
Agreed
LordofHats wrote: I don't know. Did a guy who bragged about not paying taxes, state support for committing acts of war that "wouldn't start a war", profess a profoundly out of touch perception of the mechanisms of politics, and was either too dim or too uncaring to notice the blatant white power message of his own political campaign just get elected president?
We had two terrible candidates. We had a South Park election.
LordofHats wrote: I need to stop wondering when people on the right might actually start looking at that end of politics introspectively.
Except that I'm not right wing. isidewith shows me as centrist, with libertarian leanings.
Co'tor Shas wrote: Yeah because we like stuff such as public schools, support for our poor, and well-funded hospitals.
But it was more the point, why is Indiana wasting money on this, instead of, say, cutting their debt more or increasing services. The point is that this isn't pointless political grandstanding, this is what they actually believe.
Kilkrazy wrote: Trump and the Republicans do not have the broad support of the American People for a repressive regime on gays and so on.
Don't buy into Trump's lies about an overwhelming victory. He got less than half the votes. He got one of the smallest EC votes for decades, and only managed that by squeaky thin margins in a couple of major swing states like Florida, plus the built-in conservative bias of the EC system.
The majority of the US public are not anti-gay, etc.
if Trump tries to bring in a gay-bashing bill, or a muslim-mashing measure, he's going to have to fight the will of the majority of the people.
I don't remember Trump running on a gay bashing platform. In fact wasn't he on stage with the Rainbow flag and said that same sex marriage was settled (or words to that effect)?
Remember when a small fringe said that Obama was going to round up people and put them in FEMA camps? Remember how crazy they sounded? Know you know how people spouting the gay internment camp nonsense sounds.
d-usa wrote: Can't believe that our intelligence community didn't realize it's a 4chan prank before briefing POTUS and POTUS-to-be.
Agenda > evidence
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A Mississippi legislator has sponsored a bill that levies a $1,500 fine on any school that doesn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag within the first hour of class each school day.
Sometimes I wonder why the Americans even bothered with a revolution...
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
A Mississippi legislator has sponsored a bill that levies a $1,500 fine on any school that doesn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag within the first hour of class each school day.
Sometimes I wonder why the Americans even bothered with a revolution...
Because British food sucked, and someone had a prophecy, a prophecy that there would come a Savior, a Hero, and that hero had a name: TexMex.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
A Mississippi legislator has sponsored a bill that levies a $1,500 fine on any school that doesn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag within the first hour of class each school day.
Sometimes I wonder why the Americans even bothered with a revolution...
Because British food sucked, and someone had a prophecy, a prophecy that there would come a Savior, a Hero, and that hero had a name: TexMex.
Hold your horses here, you Texans were Spanish or Mexican back then!
Don't try and claim credit for the work of the 13 colonies in 1776. (technically it should be 12 in my book, but that's a debate for another day )
And you lot were Confederates as well ! damn rebs!
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Kilkrazy wrote: Trump appeared at a rally flourishing a Rainbow Alliance flag to show LGBT support for his cause. It was upside down.
Say what you want about Trump, but the next 4 years will be comedy gold for us non-Americans.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
It will not be my intention to do anything that will benefit any American.
about 1;56 or so
.. I know what he meant but that is one glorious bit of phrasing indeed.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
A Mississippi legislator has sponsored a bill that levies a $1,500 fine on any school that doesn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag within the first hour of class each school day.
Sometimes I wonder why the Americans even bothered with a revolution...
Because British food sucked, and someone had a prophecy, a prophecy that there would come a Savior, a Hero, and that hero had a name: TexMex.
Hold your horses here, you Texans were Spanish or Mexican back then!
Don't try and claim credit for the work of the 13 colonies in 1776. (technically it should be 12 in my book, but that's a debate for another day )
And you lot were Confederates as well ! damn rebs!
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Kilkrazy wrote: Trump appeared at a rally flourishing a Rainbow Alliance flag to show LGBT support for his cause. It was upside down.
Say what you want about Trump, but the next 4 years will be comedy gold for us non-Americans.
A few dreamers knew one day that New Spain would merge with the colonies, and these forethinking steenking gringoes could see deliverance in the future.
The screaming that Trump is some anti-LGBT Torquemada is...misplaced. He doesn't care about that and never said anything negative about these issues-Jeez he's a NY Democrat.
In more important matters, Obama awarded his VP the highest civilian award the President can give for..,just being there. Not to be outdone Trump has promised to give the same award to the new Trump Hotel he's announced will be starting up...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
He should form a select group to plug these leaks, have them answer only to the Oval office, should be called plumbers, and also to be on the safe side, they should meet at least once a month in the Watergate Hotel
I'm not sure that the Watergate Hotel has any wet rooms available though!
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
He should form a select group to plug these leaks, have them answer only to the Oval office, should be called plumbers, and also to be on the safe side, they should meet at least once a month in the Watergate Hotel
I'm not sure that the Watergate Hotel has any wet rooms available though!
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
A Mississippi legislator has sponsored a bill that levies a $1,500 fine on any school that doesn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag within the first hour of class each school day.
Sometimes I wonder why the Americans even bothered with a revolution...
A Mississippi legislator has sponsored a bill that levies a $1,500 fine on any school that doesn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag within the first hour of class each school day.
Sometimes I wonder why the Americans even bothered with a revolution...
Because coffee>tea.
Very very foolish words.
This documentary footage, featuring the Duke of Wellington, highlights the British preference for tea over coffee.
I suggest watching the clip from 2:10 minutes.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
A Mississippi legislator has sponsored a bill that levies a $1,500 fine on any school that doesn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag within the first hour of class each school day.
Sometimes I wonder why the Americans even bothered with a revolution...
Because British food sucked, and someone had a prophecy, a prophecy that there would come a Savior, a Hero, and that hero had a name: TexMex.
Hold your horses here, you Texans were Spanish or Mexican back then!
Don't try and claim credit for the work of the 13 colonies in 1776. (technically it should be 12 in my book, but that's a debate for another day )
And you lot were Confederates as well ! damn rebs!
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Kilkrazy wrote: Trump appeared at a rally flourishing a Rainbow Alliance flag to show LGBT support for his cause. It was upside down.
Say what you want about Trump, but the next 4 years will be comedy gold for us non-Americans.
A few dreamers knew one day that New Spain would merge with the colonies, and these forethinking steenking gringoes could see deliverance in the future.
The screaming that Trump is some anti-LGBT Torquemada is...misplaced. He doesn't care about that and never said anything negative about these issues-Jeez he's a NY Democrat.
In more important matters, Obama awarded his VP the highest civilian award the President can give for..,just being there. Not to be outdone Trump has promised to give the same award to the new Trump Hotel he's announced will be starting up...
That swipe at Biden is just fething ignorant. "...just being there." Really? Doesn't have anything to do with rewarding a half a century of public service? Biden wasn't some rich kid turned politician. He came from a working class background and has been consistently ranked amongst the least wealthy in the Senate. Wow! A working man, from a working-class family dedicating his life to public service not to line his own pocket, but to serve and you take an off-hand swipe at him because he got some very due acknowledgement from the POTUS? What's that all about!
A Mississippi legislator has sponsored a bill that levies a $1,500 fine on any school that doesn’t recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag within the first hour of class each school day.
Sometimes I wonder why the Americans even bothered with a revolution...
Because British food sucked, and someone had a prophecy, a prophecy that there would come a Savior, a Hero, and that hero had a name: TexMex.
Hold your horses here, you Texans were Spanish or Mexican back then!
Don't try and claim credit for the work of the 13 colonies in 1776. (technically it should be 12 in my book, but that's a debate for another day )
And you lot were Confederates as well ! damn rebs!
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Kilkrazy wrote: Trump appeared at a rally flourishing a Rainbow Alliance flag to show LGBT support for his cause. It was upside down.
Say what you want about Trump, but the next 4 years will be comedy gold for us non-Americans.
A few dreamers knew one day that New Spain would merge with the colonies, and these forethinking steenking gringoes could see deliverance in the future.
The screaming that Trump is some anti-LGBT Torquemada is...misplaced. He doesn't care about that and never said anything negative about these issues-Jeez he's a NY Democrat.
In more important matters, Obama awarded his VP the highest civilian award the President can give for..,just being there. Not to be outdone Trump has promised to give the same award to the new Trump Hotel he's announced will be starting up...
That swipe at Biden is just fething ignorant. "...just being there." Really? Doesn't have anything to do with rewarding a half a century of public service? Biden wasn't some rich kid turned politician. He came from a working class background and has been consistently ranked amongst the least wealthy in the Senate. Wow! A working man, from a working-class family dedicating his life to public service not to line his own pocket, but to serve and you take an off-hand swipe at him because he got some very due acknowledgement from the POTUS? What's that all about!
Because it is Obama and frazz hates anything that the president has or will do regardless
The screaming that Trump is some anti-LGBT Torquemada is...misplaced. He doesn't care about that and never said anything negative about these issues-Jeez he's a NY Democrat.
The screaming that Trump is some anti-LGBT Torquemada is...misplaced. He doesn't care about that and never said anything negative about these issues-Jeez he's a NY Democrat.
...who picked Mike Pence as his running mate.
And actions speak louder than words.
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
That swipe at Biden is just fething ignorant. "...just being there." Really? Ignorant-I like that. I like Biden. i think Biden would have beaten Trump. But he hasn't done antying worthy of a medal. Sorry.
Doesn't have anything to do with rewarding a half a century of public service? ***Translation getting paid a buttload of money sucking off the taxpayer.
He came from a working class background ***So did I. Where's my medal.
and has been consistently ranked amongst the least wealthy in the Senate. ***So he gets a medal for being the least rich? Thats your standard and you called me ignorant?
Wow! A working man, from a working-class family dedicating his life to public service ****Translation a politician, dedicated his life to being a paid politcian. So all polticians deserve medals now? Where's Nixon's medal? How about George W Bush?
not to line his own pocket, but to serve ***I missed where he refused the lifetime paycheck. Please tell me more.
and you take an off-hand swipe at him because he got some very due acknowledgement from the POTUS? ***Yep, because he didn't do anything worthy of a medal.
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Because it is Obama and frazz hates anything that the president has or will do regardless
Only someone who hasn't read my posts would type that. But thats ok, I get it. You're on Team D an if you're not on Team D then you're scum, just like people on Team R view anyone not on Team R.
The screaming that Trump is some anti-LGBT Torquemada is...misplaced. He doesn't care about that and never said anything negative about these issues-Jeez he's a NY Democrat.
...who picked Mike Pence as his running mate.
And Pence is apparently the AntiChrist for...reasons.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Wait, wait, let me predict the next few posts. I'm going to ask you if you seriously think Mike Pence isn't anti-LGBT, you're going to say that he never made conversion therapy part of his platform because that's what we just talked about, I'm going to mention some of his stances like barring homosexuals from the military, redirecting federal funds from 'organizations that celebrate and encourage behaviors that spread HIV' to places that 'provide assistance to those seeking to change their sexual behavior' (which totally isn't code for 'take away AIDS research funding and give it to conversion therapy centers), his support of the horrific 'troubled teen' industry, or his opposition to both same-sex marriage and civil unions. Then you're going to say something about weiner dogs and it's all going to get swallowed up by the thread for about a week until the next time you don't understand why someone dislikes Pence.
That seems about right, right?
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That swipe at Biden is just fething ignorant. "...just being there." Really?
Ignorant-I like that. I like Biden. i think Biden would have beaten Trump. But he hasn't done antying worthy of a medal. Sorry.
Doesn't have anything to do with rewarding a half a century of public service?
***Translation getting paid a buttload of money sucking off the taxpayer.
He came from a working class background
***So did I. Where's my medal.
and has been consistently ranked amongst the least wealthy in the Senate.
***So he gets a medal for being the least rich? Thats your standard and you called me ignorant?
Wow! A working man, from a working-class family dedicating his life to public service
****Translation a politician, dedicated his life to being a paid politcian. So all polticians deserve medals now? Where's Nixon's medal? How about George W Bush?
not to line his own pocket, but to serve
***I missed where he refused the lifetime paycheck. Please tell me more.
and you take an off-hand swipe at him because he got some very due acknowledgement from the POTUS?
***Yep, because he didn't do anything worthy of a medal.
BW: So, after refinement, your knock on his receiving an accolade for a lifetime dedicated to public service is basically that a) he didn't work his whole life for free and b) a criminal like Nixon didn't get one, so it's bogus. Yeah, ignorance is pretty much where I'm viewing your insult as coming from. You can be as partisan as you like, don't care, but you're over the line on this one.
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That swipe at Biden is just fething ignorant. "...just being there." Really?
Ignorant-I like that. I like Biden. i think Biden would have beaten Trump. But he hasn't done antying worthy of a medal. Sorry.
Doesn't have anything to do with rewarding a half a century of public service?
***Translation getting paid a buttload of money sucking off the taxpayer.
He came from a working class background
***So did I. Where's my medal.
and has been consistently ranked amongst the least wealthy in the Senate.
***So he gets a medal for being the least rich? Thats your standard and you called me ignorant?
Wow! A working man, from a working-class family dedicating his life to public service
****Translation a politician, dedicated his life to being a paid politcian. So all polticians deserve medals now? Where's Nixon's medal? How about George W Bush?
not to line his own pocket, but to serve
***I missed where he refused the lifetime paycheck. Please tell me more.
and you take an off-hand swipe at him because he got some very due acknowledgement from the POTUS?
***Yep, because he didn't do anything worthy of a medal.
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Because it is Obama and frazz hates anything that the president has or will do regardless
Only someone who hasn't read my posts would type that. But thats ok, I get it. You're on Team D an if you're not on Team D then you're scum, just like people on Team R view anyone not on Team R.
The screaming that Trump is some anti-LGBT Torquemada is...misplaced. He doesn't care about that and never said anything negative about these issues-Jeez he's a NY Democrat.
...who picked Mike Pence as his running mate.
And Pence is apparently the AntiChrist for...reasons.
There are plenty of republicans I respect, a good example is Kronk or Bigwaagh. But no frazz you bash on Obama at every turn so it is safe to say you do not like the man.
Also pence is anti lgbtq and if you can't see that, well there is no hope for you at this point
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whembly wrote: ? Just arguing that he's not sugar coating it...
Who gives a feth what he does and doesn't sugar coat. What matters is what he delivers for people. And right now he and his party are working to repeal legislation that provides health insurance to people who otherwise wouldn't have it.
A) they were elected largely over the repeal of the ACA
B) you're assuming that nothing will be done to help those in need. Methinks your blinders need some adjust'n.
You want me to remove the sugar coating? What King is saying and doing is fething disgraceful, and everyone who for him and his party needs to take a long, hard look at themselves.
*picks up mirror*
Yep, still wants ACA repealed and have our congressional critters another crack at making the system better.
*puts down mirror*
*raises eyebrow towards sebster*
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d-usa wrote: Biden' qualification for the medal seem to be pretty much in line with the vast majority of other people that have gotten the medal.
It's the PresidentialMedal of Freedom. Obama can give it to anyone he wants.
I watched the press conference, where Biden was surprised... it was endearing and have no issues with it really.
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Because it is Obama and frazz hates anything that the president has or will do regardless
Only someone who hasn't read my posts would type that. But thats ok, I get it. You're on Team D an if you're not on Team D then you're scum, just like people on Team R view anyone not on Team R.
The screaming that Trump is some anti-LGBT Torquemada is...misplaced. He doesn't care about that and never said anything negative about these issues-Jeez he's a NY Democrat.
...who picked Mike Pence as his running mate.
And Pence is apparently the AntiChrist for...reasons.
There are plenty of republicans I respect, a good example is Kronk or Bigwaagh. But no frazz you bash on Obama at every turn so it is safe to say you do not like the man.
Also pence is anti lgbtq and if you can't see that, well there is no hope for you at this point
There's a substantial portion of the conservative/Republican party that is anti-lgbtq, so for them Pence is the second coming of Christ. I have a bunch of friends who are conservatives/Republicans, but pretty much as soon as starts talking about how much they like Pence, I immediately lose respect for them. The guy is a walking pro-choice/gay rights nightmare.
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