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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 09:30:24
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Laughing Man wrote: reds8n wrote: That would be the in reference to the tweet in which Trump advertised a lobster restaurant in Maine by mistake right ?
Nope. He tweeted an actual honest to god endorsement of LL Bean the other day.
He tweeted a positive comment about LL Bean to show support for the company and for freedom of speech because organizations were demanding a boycott of the company and that LL Bean fire one of the 50+ Bean family owners because she donated money to Trump's campaign. Automatically Appended Next Post: First you guys agree that most politicians aren't worth much:
BigWaaagh wrote: Breotan wrote:
Given the elitist attitudes displayed by of many of our Senators, I'm thinking more than a few don't understand the point of public service either.
BTW, I'm actually not taking a shot at Biden here, just making a comment about Senators in general.
And given the truth of that observation, it only makes Biden that much more deserving of his award. I could name half a dozen Senators off the top of my head that I wouldn't take for one Biden.
Then a further clarification that Breotan believes (paraphrasing here) that the people should expect a VP or senator to execute their job responsibilities in a professional manner and actually doing so shouldn't be so rare and noteworthy as to be deserving of a presidential commendation and it's misinterpreted as a blanket statement that all politicians are scum.
BigWaaagh wrote: Breotan wrote:My opinion on this whole Biden thing is that he didn't deserve it and the President shouldn't have awarded it. I hold this belief for all previous Presidents who gave the award to the Vice Presidents who served under them. Serving as the President or Vice President of the USA is its own reward - there shouldn't be a medal for it.
Our top officials giving each other awards like this stinks of tin pot nation stuff like Kaddafi who had a ton of awards on his chest, all of which he gave himself.
I don't care which party does it or to whom or for how long it's been going on. It's unbecoming of the office.
Yes, they're all bad people, doing bad things for bad reasons... Really? No distinguishment at all? Just feth 'em all?! Wow! This level of boilerplate "I'm broken, surrender and just hate everything" cynicism, is just kind of pathetic. I take that back, it's a lot of pathetic.
Then you guys go on for several more posts back and forth because even though it's 2017 already and social attitudes have changed you guys don't want to just admit you're totally into each other and enjoy chatting each other up because you want to play hard to get and pretend that you don't really enjoy the discussion you insist on propagating because the other guy has political cooties. It's ok guys we're all here for you, there's a lot of love in the room, embrace it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 10:43:51
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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Laughing Man wrote: reds8n wrote: That would be the in reference to the tweet in which Trump advertised a lobster restaurant in Maine by mistake right ?
Nope. He tweeted an actual honest to god endorsement of LL Bean the other day.
see here :
https://twitter.com/AndyRichter/status/819602533165346816
Short vers. of what he's doing: Linda Bean is RW crank on board of @LLBean. She's a big Trump donor, and has her own lobster biz.
She has nothing to do w day-to-day @LLBean which is fairly apolitical brand that does much local good. They've publicly repudiated her
So Trump, quid pro quo, tweets support for her & @LLBean, but tags her lobster biz. He says "Buy LLBean" but doesn't tag them.
He knows damn well tweeting "buy LLBean" will spark a wholly undeserved boycott, while promoting Linda's biz to like-minded Trumpsters
So out of sheer ego-driven vindictiveness, he attempts to harm a historic US business, which in turn hurts Maine's economy. feth him.
or -- TBF -- he's an idiot who can't type/tag people correctly.
Which is worse ? You decide !
https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/820034215697928196
Excellent Trump appointment for Secretary of Homeland Security, General John Kelly & I discuss border security with my wall model on table.
.. we have two options here :
The whole Stonehenge bit from Spinal Tap or the more recent school bit from Zoolander
"Donald gave me a drawing that said 18 inches. Now, whether or not he knows the difference between feet and inches is not my problem. I do what I'm told."
On a side note :
poor quality modelling really eh ? No layering or detail in the weathering effect. No scenic base either & the wire is woefully out of scale.
..well.. one assumes anyway.
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 11:43:37
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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Isn't the answer obvious?
Both are equally bad.
. . .
I'll let myself out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 15:22:03
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Red... L.L.Bean are known for their apparel:
http://www.llbean.com/?nav=gn-hp
And, the boycott isn't doing gak... in fact, they're seeing massive online purchasing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 15:31:10
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Trump's inauguration seems to become a disaster with all those ''prominent'' people invited especially from music, film and whatnot. A president to forget.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
Lanchester's square law - please obey in list building!
Illumini: "And thank you for not finishing your post with a " " I'm sorry, but after 7200 's that has to be the most annoying sign-off ever."
Armies: Eldar, Necrons, Blood Angels, Grey Knights; World Eaters (30k); Bloodbound; Cryx, Circle, Cyriss |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 15:37:59
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Never Forget Isstvan!
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Got some proof? Cause I found nothing to that effect
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 19:42:11
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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reds8n wrote:
https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/820034215697928196
Excellent Trump appointment for Secretary of Homeland Security, General John Kelly & I discuss border security with my wall model on table.
.. we have two options here :
The whole Stonehenge bit from Spinal Tap or the more recent school bit from Zoolander
"Donald gave me a drawing that said 18 inches. Now, whether or not he knows the difference between feet and inches is not my problem. I do what I'm told."
On a side note :
poor quality modelling really eh ? No layering or detail in the weathering effect. No scenic base either & the wire is woefully out of scale.
..well.. one assumes anyway.
I mentioned that guy earlier in the thread. He's the one who has said that he wants a literal no man's land on the border, with the one big wall and fences on each side to establish that no man's land.
And, yeah, that is a rather poorly made terrain piece. But I'm betting he's not a gamer.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 22:52:15
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 22:59:32
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Douglas Bader
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Prestor Jon wrote:He tweeted a positive comment about LL Bean to show support for the company and for freedom of speech because organizations were demanding a boycott of the company and that LL Bean fire one of the 50+ Bean family owners because she donated money to Trump's campaign.
Demanding a boycott and calling for firings is exercising one's freedom of speech. Trump, as a defender of freedom of speech, should be praising their actions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 00:18:10
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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I've completely lost track of what Trump should or should not be supporting/promoting/denying or whatever due to US values and so on.
The one thing I am sure of is that he really ought to Tweet a lot more. Social Media is the most important medium of the computer communication age.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 00:34:52
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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I'm actually hoping that once he becomes President he'll be too busy to be on social media. It's one thing to make the election a three ring circus act but he can't be pulling his Trump vs Rosie "I'll sue you" tantrums while he's President.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 00:38:53
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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Breotan wrote:I'm actually hoping that once he becomes President he'll be too busy to be on social media. It's one thing to make the election a three ring circus act but he can't be pulling his Trump vs Rosie "I'll sue you" tantrums while he's President.
Now, now, don't underestimate the guy, give him a chance. If anyone can pull that off it's trump.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 01:34:20
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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sirlynchmob wrote: Breotan wrote:I'm actually hoping that once he becomes President he'll be too busy to be on social media. It's one thing to make the election a three ring circus act but he can't be pulling his Trump vs Rosie "I'll sue you" tantrums while he's President.
Now, now, don't underestimate the guy, give him a chance. If anyone can pull that off it's trump.
You're probably right. As I stated a while back, I'd really hate to be this guy's Press Secretary.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 01:40:04
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Douglas Bader
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Breotan wrote:I'm actually hoping that once he becomes President he'll be too busy to be on social media. It's one thing to make the election a three ring circus act but he can't be pulling his Trump vs Rosie "I'll sue you" tantrums while he's President.
Remember how he offered someone (Kasich was it?) foreign and domestic affairs as VP? Trump doesn't want to do the work of being president, he just wants the prestige and adoring crowds that come with the job. I'm sure he will find plenty of time for tweeting.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 01:50:44
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Montreal
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This is funny, in a sad kind of way.
http://thehackernews.com/2017/01/trump-cyber-security-advisor.html wrote:
Donald Trump appoints a Cybersecurity Advisor whose own site is damn vulnerable
Former New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani has been appointed as a cyber security advisor for the President-elect Donald Trump, but it appears that he never actually checked the security defenses of his own company's website.
Giuliani is going to head a new Cybersecurity Working group for the President-elect, and "will be sharing his expertise and insight as a trusted friend concerning private sector cyber security problems and emerging solutions developing in the private sector," the Trump's Transition Team announced Thursday.
Trump administration has appointed Giuliani after citing his 16 years of experience "providing security solutions in the private sector," but the news met online criticism with many users on Twitter asking:
'What does the former New York mayor know about cyber security?'
As the news broke, online users started scanning his website "www.giulianisecurity.com" and found that the site for Giuliani Security & Safety is simply a disaster.
The site runs on an old version of Joomla! — a free, open-source content management system (CMS) — which is vulnerable to more than a dozen flaws.
The website also uses an outdated version of the script language PHP, uses an expired SSL certificate, runs over a 10-year-old version of FreeBSD OS server and even fails to follow other basic security practices.
According to Robert Graham of Errata Security, Giuliani did not build the site himself; instead he "contracted with some generic web designer to put up a simple page with just some basic content."
"There's nothing on Giuliani's server worth hacking. The drama over his security, while an amazing joke, is actually meaningless," Graham said in a blog post. "All this tells us is that Verio/NTT.net is a crappy hosting provider, not that Giuliani has done anything wrong."
Although it really doesn't matter who has created the website, if you are in cyber security business to "help the government plan to make us more secure," such ignorance hardly inspires confidence in the expertise of that person.
Giuliani is the CEO of his own private-sector cybersecurity venture, Giuliani Partners, which is an international cyber security consulting firm that claims to offer "a comprehensive range of security and crisis management services."
What Giuliani Partners actually does is not known, because the company promotes its crime reduction successes in countries, but not its cybersecurity work.
The venture recently struck a deal with BlackBerry to provide companies and governments cyber security support by assessing infrastructures, identifying potential cyber security vulnerabilities, addressing gaps and securing endpoints "with the goal of offering another channel to bring customers to a new standard of security."
This clearly suggests that the company is doing something right.
Much details about Giuliani's role in the Trump administration were not immediately available. We'll update the story with new developments.
This is quite on the nose, as the hacker group The Shadow Brokers just released a notice to advertise the sale of hacking tools freshly stolen from the NSA. This is only the second time they do so this year!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 02:11:45
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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I'm surprisingly OK with this. Giuliani isn't deserving of any office, nor does he have any expertise, but I think he can do the least amount of lasting damage there.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 02:20:56
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Peregrine wrote:Prestor Jon wrote:He tweeted a positive comment about LL Bean to show support for the company and for freedom of speech because organizations were demanding a boycott of the company and that LL Bean fire one of the 50+ Bean family owners because she donated money to Trump's campaign.
Demanding a boycott and calling for firings is exercising one's freedom of speech. Trump, as a defender of freedom of speech, should be praising their actions.
No, trying to punish a company because a member of the ownership who is only tangentially involved with the company makes a donation from their personal wealth as a private citizen to the Republican presidential candidate's campaign for the sole purpose of trying to intimidate anyone else from making personal donations to politicians you don't like is clearly an operation designed to suppress speech. What exactly did LL Bean the corporate entity do wrong that warrants a boycott and what is the goal of the boycott? The outraged group has made it very clear that their goal is to punish LL Bean and the memeber of the Bean family that donated to Trump because they don't like Trump. Trying to whip up an angry online mob to punish businesses in order to intimidate people into withholding their support from politicians you deem unworthy is downright unAmerican.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 02:24:53
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 02:40:00
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Douglas Bader
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Prestor Jon wrote:No, trying to punish a company because a member of the ownership who is only tangentially involved with the company makes a donation from their personal wealth as a private citizen to the Republican presidential candidate's campaign for the sole purpose of trying to intimidate anyone else from making personal donations to politicians you don't like is clearly an operation designed to suppress speech.
I don't know, this sounds an awful lot like people using their freedom of speech to say "use the free market to purchase from companies that I favor". Freedom of speech means that the government won't censor you for having unpopular opinions, it does NOT mean that your fellow citizens will not say "  that guy".
What exactly did LL Bean the corporate entity do wrong that warrants a boycott and what is the goal of the boycott?
Who cares? LL Bean is not entitled to sales. Nor is there an obligation to only boycott for "good" reasons, from a freedom of speech or free market point of view. You can certainly disagree with the people advocating or participating in the boycott, but this isn't a freedom issue.
The outraged group has made it very clear that their goal is to punish LL Bean and the memeber of the Bean family that donated to Trump because they don't like Trump. Trying to whip up an angry online mob to punish businesses in order to intimidate people into withholding their support from politicians you deem unworthy is downright unAmerican.
It's not un-American at all, you just don't understand what freedom of speech means. Nothing about American law guarantees you freedom from the consequences of your speech.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 02:48:38
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Peregrine wrote: Breotan wrote:I'm actually hoping that once he becomes President he'll be too busy to be on social media. It's one thing to make the election a three ring circus act but he can't be pulling his Trump vs Rosie "I'll sue you" tantrums while he's President. Remember how he offered someone (Kasich was it?) foreign and domestic affairs as VP? Trump doesn't want to do the work of being president, he just wants the prestige and adoring crowds that come with the job. I'm sure he will find plenty of time for tweeting.
Is it bad that this is how I want it to work? Automatically Appended Next Post: Prestor Jon wrote: Peregrine wrote:Prestor Jon wrote:He tweeted a positive comment about LL Bean to show support for the company and for freedom of speech because organizations were demanding a boycott of the company and that LL Bean fire one of the 50+ Bean family owners because she donated money to Trump's campaign. Demanding a boycott and calling for firings is exercising one's freedom of speech. Trump, as a defender of freedom of speech, should be praising their actions. No, trying to punish a company because a member of the ownership who is only tangentially involved with the company makes a donation from their personal wealth as a private citizen to the Republican presidential candidate's campaign for the sole purpose of trying to intimidate anyone else from making personal donations to politicians you don't like is clearly an operation designed to suppress speech. What exactly did LL Bean the corporate entity do wrong that warrants a boycott and what is the goal of the boycott? The outraged group has made it very clear that their goal is to punish LL Bean and the memeber of the Bean family that donated to Trump because they don't like Trump. Trying to whip up an angry online mob to punish businesses in order to intimidate people into withholding their support from politicians you deem unworthy is downright unAmerican.
You will be MADE to care prestor... now bake me my damn cake! Automatically Appended Next Post: Shifts the burden of proof to the protestor. After the Ferguson riots and NC riots... I have zero empathy. I'm for this. Looking at ND's makeup, I really doubt this'll pass... unless, the peeps there are pissed at the protestors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 03:06:10
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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I'm just imagining the cognitive dissonance a bunch of people will be having about that company, yet probably happily did their Hamilton or Starbucks protests.
In the UK a few years ago we had a "cash for honours" scandal, and wasn't there also some sort of "cash for access" thing with Hillary? I'm wondering if those people upset are also upset for, "cash for tweets" from the most powerful person in the planet.
Although in saying all that, it's ultimately the politician that should hold the responsibility and held to account. Companies do what companies do. In saying that, that still doesn't mean you *have* to buy from them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 03:31:46
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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whembly wrote:You will be MADE to care prestor... now bake me my damn cake!
What happened to conservative ideas about the free market?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 03:44:12
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Peregrine wrote: whembly wrote:You will be MADE to care prestor... now bake me my damn cake!
What happened to conservative ideas about the free market?
Don't care what other people spend their money.
You wanna boycott? Boycott away...
Just don't presume immunity from criticisms.
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Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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whembly wrote: Peregrine wrote: whembly wrote:You will be MADE to care prestor... now bake me my damn cake!
What happened to conservative ideas about the free market?
Don't care what other people spend their money.
You wanna boycott? Boycott away...
Just don't presume immunity from criticisms.
If you had paid attention to the beginning, the point was that Prestor Jon was making a weird claim that the boycott and wanting an exec fired was somehow anti-free speech.
A. The idea of Donald "I'll sue ya" Trump being a protector of free speech is hilarious. He literaly wants to make it so he can sue news orginiastion when they print bad stuff about him.
B. Calls for a boycott/firing is free speech. Stupid speech, but never the less, free.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 04:05:04
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Co'tor Shas wrote: whembly wrote: Peregrine wrote: whembly wrote:You will be MADE to care prestor... now bake me my damn cake!
What happened to conservative ideas about the free market?
Don't care what other people spend their money.
You wanna boycott? Boycott away...
Just don't presume immunity from criticisms.
If you had paid attention to the beginning, the point was that Prestor Jon was making a weird claim that the boycott and wanting an exec fired was somehow anti-free speech.
Boycotts are fine.
However, wanted an exec fired (like Brendan Eich's Mozilla... who stepped down) is chilling free speech imo.
A. The idea of Donald "I'll sue ya" Trump being a protector of free speech is hilarious. He literaly wants to make it so he can sue news orginiastion when they print bad stuff about him.
Didn't get that he was arguing for Drumpf being protector of speech.
B. Calls for a boycott/firing is free speech. Stupid speech, but never the less, free.
Aye.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 04:12:42
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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whembly wrote: Co'tor Shas wrote: whembly wrote: Peregrine wrote: whembly wrote:You will be MADE to care prestor... now bake me my damn cake! What happened to conservative ideas about the free market?
Don't care what other people spend their money. You wanna boycott? Boycott away... Just don't presume immunity from criticisms. If you had paid attention to the beginning, the point was that Prestor Jon was making a weird claim that the boycott and wanting an exec fired was somehow anti-free speech.
Boycotts are fine. However, wanted an exec fired (like Brendan Eich's Mozilla... who stepped down) is chilling free speech imo. A. The idea of Donald "I'll sue ya" Trump being a protector of free speech is hilarious. He literaly wants to make it so he can sue news orginiastion when they print bad stuff about him.
Didn't get that he was arguing for Drumpf being protector of speech. B. Calls for a boycott/firing is free speech. Stupid speech, but never the less, free.
Aye. Prestor Jon aid :"He tweeted a positive comment about LL Bean to show support for the company and for freedom of speech" I may have misinterpreted it, but that's what it sounds like. Also, I wouldn't use the word "chilling" when speaking about a bunch of people going "we don't like you and think you should be fired!", when it has other implications. And it's still free speech, also known as "dealing with the consequences of your actions". If you support a very unpopular candidate (someone who is at 51% disapprove before he has even gotten in office, the time which presidents are usually at their most popular) expect there to be people, rightly or wrongly, angry at you. I don't agree with it, but it's not anti-free speech.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 04:25:21
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Peregrine wrote:Prestor Jon wrote:He tweeted a positive comment about LL Bean to show support for the company and for freedom of speech because organizations were demanding a boycott of the company and that LL Bean fire one of the 50+ Bean family owners because she donated money to Trump's campaign.
Demanding a boycott and calling for firings is exercising one's freedom of speech. Trump, as a defender of freedom of speech, should be praising their actions.
I don't know about you but I am shocked shocked I say that the party of getting Congressional regulations to stop "picking winners and losers" in the business world is now happy to endorse the executive picking winners and losers in the business world. Even better (and more shocking!) "winner" in the case means "gave me campaign money" from the candidate who liked to brag about how little campaign money he needed to win.
EDIT: Though LL Bean does make a nice affordable line of winter coats
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 04:37:43
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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whembly wrote:
Shifts the burden of proof to the protestor.
After the Ferguson riots and NC riots... I have zero empathy.
I'm for this. Looking at ND's makeup, I really doubt this'll pass... unless, the peeps there are pissed at the protestors.
Whembly, pedestrians can't prove anything if they're dead.
"Whoops, sorry officer, that guy I hit and killed, totally by accident, really was in the middle of the road. You'll just have to take my word for it that the light was green for me at the time."
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 04:43:23
Subject: Re:US Politics: 2017 Edition
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reds8n wrote: Laughing Man wrote: reds8n wrote: That would be the in reference to the tweet in which Trump advertised a lobster restaurant in Maine by mistake right ?
Nope. He tweeted an actual honest to god endorsement of LL Bean the other day.
see here :
https://twitter.com/AndyRichter/status/819602533165346816
Short vers. of what he's doing: Linda Bean is RW crank on board of @LLBean. She's a big Trump donor, and has her own lobster biz.
She has nothing to do w day-to-day @LLBean which is fairly apolitical brand that does much local good. They've publicly repudiated her
So Trump, quid pro quo, tweets support for her & @LLBean, but tags her lobster biz. He says "Buy LLBean" but doesn't tag them.
He knows damn well tweeting "buy LLBean" will spark a wholly undeserved boycott, while promoting Linda's biz to like-minded Trumpsters
So out of sheer ego-driven vindictiveness, he attempts to harm a historic US business, which in turn hurts Maine's economy. feth him.
or -- TBF -- he's an idiot who can't type/tag people correctly.
Which is worse ? You decide !
https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/820034215697928196
Excellent Trump appointment for Secretary of Homeland Security, General John Kelly & I discuss border security with my wall model on table.
.. we have two options here :
The whole Stonehenge bit from Spinal Tap or the more recent school bit from Zoolander
"Donald gave me a drawing that said 18 inches. Now, whether or not he knows the difference between feet and inches is not my problem. I do what I'm told."
On a side note :
poor quality modelling really eh ? No layering or detail in the weathering effect. No scenic base either & the wire is woefully out of scale.
..well.. one assumes anyway.
I would be ashamed to put that on my gaming table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 04:46:53
Subject: US Politics: 2017 Edition
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
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whembly wrote:
Shifts the burden of proof to the protestor.
After the Ferguson riots and NC riots... I have zero empathy.
I'm for this. Looking at ND's makeup, I really doubt this'll pass... unless, the peeps there are pissed at the protestors.
This is is boys, Whembly has OKed murder if it's against the other side!
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
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