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As Trump piles increasingly ridiculous lies upon lies upon lies, the spirit of America takes a long hard look at itself
"Where did we go wrong, man?"
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We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
I would so like to see Trump's face live when he realizes Mexico will not pay for it That's going to hurt his ego soooo bad. He could probably do good business out of video of his face though...
Well it could be that Mexico president cancelled it first and then Trump tries to pretend it was his decision rather than Mexico president giving "I won't bother with you".
One news article said they weren't sure who cancelled it first.
Good. If Nieto isn't willing to put up with Trump's bs, hopefully other world leaders will also decide to stand firm. Of course, he could just be pulling a Rubio, acting tough before folding like a wet paper bag. Hopefully not.
In other news, the State Department is leaking senior management officials:
Best part is they quit as Tillerson was visiting. And these guys aren't just party hacks - for example, Kennedy has been Under Secretary since 1993.
Sorta misleading...
They're political appointees...
They are presidential appointees who submit resignations during every transition. Their resignations were accepted. We wrote about it y'day. https://t.co/Uvx0YywH00
Instead of looking at tweets, look at the markets.
Mexico is going to bend the knee. The peso was already at an all-time low...today's cancellation puts it at a steady -1%. Nieto is facing two options, (1) bend the knee, (2) face near-certain economic ruin. Have fun with that.
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Mexico is going to bend the knee. The peso was already at an all-time low...today's cancellation puts it at a steady -1%. Nieto is facing two options, (1) bend the knee, (2) face near-certain economic ruin. Have fun with that.
Right, because handing over billions of dollars worth of pesos to the U.S. will certainly help their economy.
Best part is they quit as Tillerson was visiting. And these guys aren't just party hacks - for example, Kennedy has been Under Secretary since 1993.
Sorta misleading...
They're political appointees...
They are presidential appointees who submit resignations during every transition. Their resignations were accepted. We wrote about it y'day. https://t.co/Uvx0YywH00
— Matt Lee (@APDiploWriter) January 26, 2017
If that's the case, isn't it worse? These are people with years of experience whom have been kept on by presidents from both sides of the aisle.
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Mexico is going to bend the knee. The peso was already at an all-time low...today's cancellation puts it at a steady -1%. Nieto is facing two options, (1) bend the knee, (2) face near-certain economic ruin. Have fun with that.
Actually,
1) Bend the knee and face near certain economic ruin.
2) Stand up to the ridiculous blowhard perhaps face near certain economic ruin.
40 billion dollars is 30% of Mexico's GDP. They aren't playing for Trumps deeply, deeply stupid wall.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
Mexico is going to bend the knee. The peso was already at an all-time low...today's cancellation puts it at a steady -1%. Nieto is facing two options, (1) bend the knee, (2) face near-certain economic ruin. Have fun with that.
Right, because handing over billions of dollars worth of pesos to the U.S. will certainly help their economy.
Yeah.
If Trump starts messing with trade deals too much they can always look elsewhere. Better that than get worse deal anyway + billions of dollars worth of pesos lost.
Good. If Nieto isn't willing to put up with Trump's bs, hopefully other world leaders will also decide to stand firm. Of course, he could just be pulling a Rubio, acting tough before folding like a wet paper bag. Hopefully not.
In other news, the State Department is leaking senior management officials:
Top State Department officials asked to leave by Trump administration
From CNN's Elise Labott:
Two senior administration officials said Thursday that the Trump administration asked four top State Department management officials to leave as part of an effort to "clean house" at Foggy Bottom.
Patrick Kennedy, who served for nine years as the undersecretary for management, Assistant Secretary for Administration and Consular Affairs Michele Bond and Ambassador Gentry Smith, director of the Office for Foreign Missions, were sent letters by the White House that their service was no longer required, the sources told CNN.
All four submitted letters of resignation, per tradition at the beginning of the administration. The letters from the White House said that their resignations were accepted and they were thanked for their service.
I dunno if I said it on the UK politics thread or this one.
The entire Scotch industry (Scotch being defined as whisky from Scotland), was worth £5 billion. This was really great and awesome news for Scotland. Scotch, being one of Scotland's main industries.
That's less than half the price of the wall, judging by the $4 billion it seems to have jumped up overnight.
You might be drinking a glass of Scotch right now. The entire industry that made that glass in the last year. Less than half. A wall.
Sure, Mexico's a heckuva lot larger than Scotland population-wise, but still... That's gonna be a whole lot of money.
Mexico is going to bend the knee. The peso was already at an all-time low...today's cancellation puts it at a steady -1%. Nieto is facing two options, (1) bend the knee, (2) face near-certain economic ruin. Have fun with that.
Since we're already using Game of Thrones-esque terminology...
Compel wrote: I dunno if I said it on the UK politics thread or this one.
The entire Scotch industry (Scotch being defined as whisky from Scotland), was worth £5 billion. This was really great and awesome news for Scotland. Scotch, being one of Scotland's main industries.
That's less than half the price of the wall, judging by the $4 billion it seems to have jumped up overnight.
You might be drinking a glass of Scotch right now. The entire industry that made that glass in the last year. Less than half. A wall.
Sure, Mexico's a heckuva lot larger than Scotland population-wise, but still... That's gonna be a whole lot of money.
And who knows how much wall would really cost? Trump says 8 billions but seeing how bad Trump is with numbers(what with initially claiming he got more votes...I can imagine frustration of his aides trying to explain him that YES her 65.8m IS more than his 63M...) we can be sure it's not going to be that cheap. Even congress agree estimating it at 12 billions and probably will cost US poor&middle class even more than that.
Remember when signing executive orders was tyranny? Remember when alienating your allies was negative to world safety?
Hopefully Mexico tells the Americans right where they can stick it, and see what happens when glorious leader can't even bully Mexico into submission.
warboss wrote: Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
Mexico is going to bend the knee. The peso was already at an all-time low...today's cancellation puts it at a steady -1%. Nieto is facing two options, (1) bend the knee, (2) face near-certain economic ruin. Have fun with that.
Right, because handing over billions of dollars worth of pesos to the U.S. will certainly help their economy.
More important than that, it's straight up political suicide. Even if this guy bends knee, we'd quickly see him removed and someone else instilled who will just cut ties.
Welcome to the New America, pissing off one of the only countries we have a land border with since 2016.
And who knows how much wall would really cost? Trump says 8 billions but seeing how bad Trump is with numbers(what with initially claiming he got more votes...I can imagine frustration of his aides trying to explain him that YES her 65.8m IS more than his 63M...) we can be sure it's not going to be that cheap. Even congress agree estimating it at 12 billions and probably will cost US poor&middle class even more than that.
There is no way this project doesn't become a financial black hole. But hey. Some very rich contractors will get much richer.
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Ask the Comanches what happens when you have lots of illegal immigration.
Brown people aren't coming over to systematically displace and exterminate white people, tho.
Have you read the kind of lies, er, "news" that the deplorables read? They very much are (afraid the brown people are coming to get them).
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
As far as I understand it, he doesn't have construction companies, the tactic is more, Hire construction companies, have them do the work, don't pay them. Wait for them to go bankrupt because they've been working for X many months for free and now have no cashflow...
LordofHats wrote: There is no way this project doesn't become a financial black hole. But hey. Some very rich contractors will get much richer.
Does Trump have construction companies? If yes wouldn't be surprised if they were tasked with building it.
Built with help of illegal immigrants no doubt. "Nobody hires illegal immigrants better than I. Yes. Nobody."
Better yet, who the feth will Trump find to build the wall? I mean everyone knows he's just going to tell them to feth off when it comes time to actually pay anyone.
Moe importantly, I'm curious where all those posters are who insisted pi]insisted[/i] 6 months ago that Trump wasn't serious about the wall and we were all being idiots to think he was.
Well the President of Mexico just told the President of America to feth off, so, how serious is he?
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