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 BigWaaagh wrote:


Ah. Implying that pork barrel spending to the tune of billions of dollars is now acceptable? But drain the swamp...

Remember when it was terrible that Planned Parenthood got millions of dollars of federal funding?

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:


Ah. Implying that pork barrel spending to the tune of billions of dollars is now acceptable? But drain the swamp...

Remember when it was terrible that Planned Parenthood got millions of dollars of federal funding?

Maybe in Trump's books billion is less than million After all seems he thinks 63M is more than 65.8M so...

 BigWaaagh wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Rand Paul actually released his repeal/replace-ACA plan:
https://www.paul.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/ObamacareReplacementActSections.pdf

Looks really good to me...

I don't think anyone really appreciates a liberalized Association Health Plan (AHP) could do wonders.

For instance, think of all the employees at every Hospital/Medical Group in the US... that's a large number. Imagine they've all banded together to offer plans for their peeps, leveraging the buying power and that the actuary risks are spread out.




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 BigWaaagh wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
MMM...compared to all the spending we do...ok big whup.

What does that mean?

That the cost to build the wall is a drop in the budget...

It's essentially a pork project.

Ah. Implying that pork barrel spending to the tune of billions of dollars is now acceptable? But drain the swamp...

You see... there you go again putting words in my mouf... don't do that.


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 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:


Ah. Implying that pork barrel spending to the tune of billions of dollars is now acceptable? But drain the swamp...

Remember when it was terrible that Planned Parenthood got millions of dollars of federal funding?

That is terrible.

Good chance Congress/Trump would defund Federal dollars to this institution.

There's nothing stopping the supporters to donating PP if you think it's a worthy cause.

EDIT: fix spelling

I wonder what Trump's reaction wil be when he finds out the Mexicans have air travel and can thus fly over the wall

What's the Spanish for 'stick your EO where the sun don't shine!'

Ironically, there was one American, for argument's sake let's call him George Patton, who made a good observation about man made barriers.

Something along the lines of mountains and seas being conquered, so anything built by man wouldn't stand a chance in comparison to mother nature.

But that was a time when America had leaders who knew what they were doing: FDR, Harry Truman, Cordell Hull, Eisenhower, Patton, General Marshall, who I rate highly, and so on and so on...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-president-cancels-visit-to-washington-as-tensions-with-trump-administration-intensify/2017/01/26/ececc3da-e3d9-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html?utm_term=.f26d9b833a0d

White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20 percent import tax on Mexican goods

 A Town Called Malus wrote:
Remember when it was terrible that Planned Parenthood got millions of dollars of federal funding?

Yeah, but remember that Planned Parenthood murders babies for profit (and because feminists think it's fun to get pregnant and kill their babies). In fact, just this week I was at a Planned Parenthood and I overheard them celebrating another billion dollars in profit and planning their next marketing campaign to make sure that 200% of all women have paid for abortions. And let's not even get started on the ritutal torture of the dying babies, or the trophy skulls, or what obscene acts the people who buy dead babies do with those innocent little corpses...

#AlternativeFacts


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 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-president-cancels-visit-to-washington-as-tensions-with-trump-administration-intensify/2017/01/26/ececc3da-e3d9-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html?utm_term=.f26d9b833a0d

White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20 percent import tax on Mexican goods

HAY GUYS LETS START A TRADE WAR ASAP AND CRASH THE ECONOMY IT WILL BE FUN TRUST ME.

Um...

If it's an import tax... Doesn't that mean that um, the people in America are paying for it?

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I wonder what Trump's reaction wil be when he finds out the Mexicans have air travel and can thus fly over the wall

Yeah. How many of illegals come there by walking over desert anyway? Is US really so hard place to visit? How hard it would be for ME to go visit there if I was stupid enough to want to go there? And then(by some temporal insanity) decide to stay there?

Biggest issue would be simply feeding myself rather than getting there I think. Which is why better way to combat illegal immigration is to hunt down companies that employ them. Including funnily enough Trump himself

tneva82 wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:


Ah. Implying that pork barrel spending to the tune of billions of dollars is now acceptable? But drain the swamp...

Remember when it was terrible that Planned Parenthood got millions of dollars of federal funding?

Maybe in Trump's books billion is less than million After all seems he thinks 63M is more than 65.8M so...

Very foolish words. You may think that Finland is under the radar on this one, but Trump sees all and hears all. Finland will suffer for that insult. Expect a Trump hotel to be heading your way!

I speak from experience, here in Scotland, when we blocked a Trump golf course, we had to fight off an army of lawyers. I'm not sure who won that. Lawyers are like zombies - they can come back at any time.

If I remember right, he eventually walled in the lady's house who disagreed and built the golf course around her...

 Compel wrote:
Um...

If it's an import tax... Doesn't that mean that um, the people in America are paying for it?

You will when clothing/bedding, appliances, cars, electronics, light bulbs (always found that one odd personally), tires, and jewelry go up in price... Right before all the American companies making stuff in Mexico go to some other country anyway, keep the price at the new "import tax" surcharge, and rake in all the big bucks from manufacturing in I don't know... Ecuador? Somewhere.

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-president-cancels-visit-to-washington-as-tensions-with-trump-administration-intensify/2017/01/26/ececc3da-e3d9-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html?utm_term=.f26d9b833a0d

White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20 percent import tax on Mexican goods

yeah...good luck getting that through and not stuck in litigation forever or without painful repurcussions for US trade.

It's all well and good for them to just toss about the idea, Trump and his team have said...more than a few things they never intended to follow through on or that turned out to be outright lies, but making it practical reality is going to be...several orders of magnitude more difficult if they aren't just tossing out gimme quotes to satisfy the pavlovian ticks of the crazy base.

I'm sure GM, Ford, Honeywell, Carrier, and hundreds of others, not to mention consumers, are going to be thrilled.

And, ultimately, it will still be the US consumers and taxpayers paying for it as those costs are passed on. Huzzah!

 LordofHats wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
MMM...compared to all the spending we do...ok big whup.

And when Mexico joins that block of South and Central American countries that consider the United States a hostile force?

Why would they? Have you checked how they treat their own southern border situation?

Besides we could give a gak what they think. Keep their cartels out of our country.

 Compel wrote:
If I remember right, he eventually walled in the lady's house who disagreed and built the golf course around her...

Yes, that is the measure of the man - threaten and bully a woman who doesn't want to leave a house she's spent 50 years in...

 Frazzled wrote:
Why would they? Have you checked how they treat their own southern border situation?

Their southern border situation is a product on their policy relationship with the US.

Besides we could give a gak what they think. Keep their cartels out of our country.

Opposing the cartels is easier when the local government is nominally on our side, and less so when it decides we're the enemy.

 Vaktathi wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-president-cancels-visit-to-washington-as-tensions-with-trump-administration-intensify/2017/01/26/ececc3da-e3d9-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html?utm_term=.f26d9b833a0d

White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20 percent import tax on Mexican goods

yeah...good luck getting that through and not stuck in litigation forever or without painful repurcussions for US trade.

It's all well and good for them to just toss about the idea, Trump and his team have said...more than a few things they never intended to follow through on or that turned out to be outright lies, but making it practical reality is going to be...several orders of magnitude more difficult if they aren't just tossing out gimme quotes to satisfy the pavlovian ticks of the crazy base.

I'm sure GM, Ford, Honeywell, Carrier, and hundreds of others, not to mention consumers, are going to be thrilled.

And, ultimately, it will still be the US consumers and taxpayers paying for it as those costs are passed on. Huzzah!

As I said earlier, to add insult to injury, the cement making companies best placed by location to the wall's proposed site are Mexican!

Bonus question: you'll never guess where the best labour pool is for constructing the wall?

 LordofHats wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
Why would they? Have you checked how they treat their own southern border situation?

Their southern border situation is a product on their policy relationship with the US.

Besides we could give a gak what they think. Keep their cartels out of our country.

Opposing the cartels is easier when the local government is nominally on our side, and less so when it decides we're the enemy.

Put the wall up and its irrelevant. Shoot down anything that comes over it around it or under it. Mexico is in the mi9ddle of a civil war, like they are every 30 years or so.
They are not our friends nor have they ever been.

 Vaktathi wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-president-cancels-visit-to-washington-as-tensions-with-trump-administration-intensify/2017/01/26/ececc3da-e3d9-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html?utm_term=.f26d9b833a0d

White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20 percent import tax on Mexican goods

yeah...good luck getting that through and not stuck in litigation forever or without painful repurcussions for US trade.

It's all well and good for them to just toss about the idea, Trump and his team have said...more than a few things they never intended to follow through on or that turned out to be outright lies, but making it practical reality is going to be...several orders of magnitude more difficult if they aren't just tossing out gimme quotes to satisfy the pavlovian ticks of the crazy base.

I'm sure GM, Ford, Honeywell, Carrier, and hundreds of others, not to mention consumers, are going to be thrilled.

And, ultimately, it will still be the US consumers and taxpayers paying for it as those costs are passed on. Huzzah!

On the bright side, the President can't levy tariffs, and I don't see the Republicans backing it.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-president-cancels-visit-to-washington-as-tensions-with-trump-administration-intensify/2017/01/26/ececc3da-e3d9-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html?utm_term=.f26d9b833a0d

White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20 percent import tax on Mexican goods

yeah...good luck getting that through and not stuck in litigation forever or without painful repurcussions for US trade.

It's all well and good for them to just toss about the idea, Trump and his team have said...more than a few things they never intended to follow through on or that turned out to be outright lies, but making it practical reality is going to be...several orders of magnitude more difficult if they aren't just tossing out gimme quotes to satisfy the pavlovian ticks of the crazy base.

I'm sure GM, Ford, Honeywell, Carrier, and hundreds of others, not to mention consumers, are going to be thrilled.

And, ultimately, it will still be the US consumers and taxpayers paying for it as those costs are passed on. Huzzah!

As I said earlier, to add insult to injury, the cement making companies best placed by location to the wall's proposed site are Mexican!

Bonus question: you'll never guess where the best labour pool is for constructing the wall?

Yes Cemex, convicted of dumping (pardon the pun) cement on US markets. Whats that great big sucking sound? oh yea US jobs. I remember.

 Frazzled wrote:

They are not our friends nor have they ever been.

I'm sure that's a great comfort for the thousands of Mexican police who've died fighting our drug war.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

As I said earlier, to add insult to injury, the cement making companies best placed by location to the wall's proposed site are Mexican!

Bonus question: you'll never guess where the best labour pool is for constructing the wall?

Yeah but "Mexico will build the wall and we will pay for it!" doesn't have quite the same ring to it, does it?


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 Frazzled wrote:
Shoot down anything that comes over it around it or under it.

You're planning on shooting down commercial passenger airlines? Wow, I guess Putin's influence on US politics goes deeper than we thought.

tneva82 wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I wonder what Trump's reaction wil be when he finds out the Mexicans have air travel and can thus fly over the wall

Yeah. How many of illegals come there by walking over desert anyway? Is US really so hard place to visit? How hard it would be for ME to go visit there if I was stupid enough to want to go there? And then(by some temporal insanity) decide to stay there?

Biggest issue would be simply feeding myself rather than getting there I think. Which is why better way to combat illegal immigration is to hunt down companies that employ them. Including funnily enough Trump himself

A few years back, a friend of mine was an illegal alien in the USA, having out stayed his visa.

His rational was: I'm British, you're American, together we beat the Germans. I can stay here for as long as I want, right?

Surprisingly, they didn't buy it

 LordofHats wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

They are not our friends nor have they ever been.

I'm sure that's a great comfort for the thousands of Mexican police who've died fighting our drug war.

I literally don't care. Take back their cartels and get their criminals out of my country.

 Frazzled wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

They are not our friends nor have they ever been.

I'm sure that's a great comfort for the thousands of Mexican police who've died fighting our drug war.

I literally don't care. Take back their cartels and get their criminals out of my country.

Have perspective guys...

Texas is having a knarly time with the cartel bidness and illegal aliens problems...

Cut Frazz some slack.

Every Texan has been raised from childhood to fear the ghost of Pancho Villa. His legacy lives on, striking fear into the hearts of honest Texans.

And LordofHats makes a good point as well.

 whembly wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

They are not our friends nor have they ever been.

I'm sure that's a great comfort for the thousands of Mexican police who've died fighting our drug war.

I literally don't care. Take back their cartels and get their criminals out of my country.

Have perspective guys...

Texas is having a knarly time with the cartel bidness and illegal aliens problems...

Indeed.

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

A few years back, a friend of mine was an illegal alien in the USA, having out stayed his visa.

A friend of mine did the same thing about 15 years ago, he is still there

 Frazzled wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/mexican-president-cancels-visit-to-washington-as-tensions-with-trump-administration-intensify/2017/01/26/ececc3da-e3d9-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_story.html?utm_term=.f26d9b833a0d

White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20 percent import tax on Mexican goods

yeah...good luck getting that through and not stuck in litigation forever or without painful repurcussions for US trade.

It's all well and good for them to just toss about the idea, Trump and his team have said...more than a few things they never intended to follow through on or that turned out to be outright lies, but making it practical reality is going to be...several orders of magnitude more difficult if they aren't just tossing out gimme quotes to satisfy the pavlovian ticks of the crazy base.

I'm sure GM, Ford, Honeywell, Carrier, and hundreds of others, not to mention consumers, are going to be thrilled.

And, ultimately, it will still be the US consumers and taxpayers paying for it as those costs are passed on. Huzzah!

As I said earlier, to add insult to injury, the cement making companies best placed by location to the wall's proposed site are Mexican!

Bonus question: you'll never guess where the best labour pool is for constructing the wall?

Yes Cemex, convicted of dumping (pardon the pun) cement on US markets. Whats that great big sucking sound? oh yea US jobs. I remember.

you make it sound like the economic exploitation is one sided...and that those jobs either werent going to wither away in the first place or that there's some chance of them ever coming back, none of which is necessarily true.

 whembly wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

They are not our friends nor have they ever been.

I'm sure that's a great comfort for the thousands of Mexican police who've died fighting our drug war.

I literally don't care. Take back their cartels and get their criminals out of my country.

Have perspective guys...

Texas is having a knarly time with the cartel bidness and illegal aliens problems...

True, but when Houston and Dallas are prime markets for those who sell the old Columbian marching powder, then Texas is technically contributing to its own problems.

 Frazzled wrote:
I literally don't care.

I gathered that.