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This article might be of some interest to American dakka members.

It's Trump's daily routine and it's full of surprises:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/27/donald-trump-white-house-twitter-cable-news-sleep

He writes science papers, enjoys chess and origami, loves Star Trek, and is a huge fan of 2nd edition D&D

Spoiler:
Only joking He reads no books, barely sleeps, tweets all night, and loves watching cable. Who da thought?

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Leerstetten, Germany

 Frazzled wrote:
 d-usa wrote:


They laid off every single steel worker in the UK?

Just admit that you talked out of your ass, again.


How many are left?


More than none.


What does Britain make now?


Many things, including steel.



Who voted for Brexit?


Don't know, probably some steelworkers.

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"You have no steelworkers".
"Yes we do".
"You have basically no steelworkers. Stop being obtuse".

Say what you fething mean in the first place then.
   
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The Great State of Texas

 Vash108 wrote:
Spoiler:
 Vaktathi wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:

The USA has had a trade deficit since 1976.


Now you see the problem.


Not really, the jury is out on whether trade deficits are inherently bad or good or both or neither.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/trade-deficit-effects.asp


Tell all the steel workers in your country, oh wait, you don't have any any more.
Much of which is probably not due to foreign trade issues, but increases in production efficiencies and automation.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/265cd8fb02fb44a69cf0eaa2063e11d9/mexico-taking-us-factory-jobs-blame-robots-instead

Associated Press wrote:"We're making more with fewer people," says Howard Shatz, a senior economist at the Rand Corp. think tank.

General Motors, for instance, now employs barely a third of the 600,000 workers it had in the 1970s. Yet it churns out more cars and trucks than ever.

Or look at production of steel and other primary metals. Since 1997, the United States has lost 265,000 jobs in the production of primary metals — a 42 percent plunge — at a time when such production in the U.S. has surged 38 percent.

Allan Collard-Wexler of Duke University and Jan De Loecker of Princeton University found last year that America didn't lose most steel jobs to foreign competition or faltering sales. Steel jobs vanished because of the rise of a new technology: Super-efficient mini-mills that make steel largely from scrap metal.


This is a reality that must be faced. Even in places like China, workers are being replaced by automation. It's easy and convenient to place all the blame on foreign dumping or undercutting, but increasingly automation is just making each individual worker much more productive and thus companies need less of them, though the rewards such productivity gains are captured almost entirely by shareholders rather than resulting in increased pay as well.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36376966

BBC wrote:Apple and Samsung supplier Foxconn has reportedly replaced 60,000 factory workers with robots.

One factory has "reduced employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000 thanks to the introduction of robots", a government official told the South China Morning Post.

Xu Yulian, head of publicity for the Kunshan region, added: "More companies are likely to follow suit."

China is investing heavily in a robot workforce.


At some point with automation growing the way it is. We will have to deal with a future where some people don't work.


The future? That future occurred 20 years ago.

In other news.
Also Far Right parties gaining power in Europe now.
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2017/01/27/511644280/far-right-leader-aims-to-change-political-situation-in-germany-and-europe

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Roswell, GA

 Frazzled wrote:
 Vash108 wrote:
Spoiler:
 Vaktathi wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:

The USA has had a trade deficit since 1976.


Now you see the problem.


Not really, the jury is out on whether trade deficits are inherently bad or good or both or neither.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/trade-deficit-effects.asp


Tell all the steel workers in your country, oh wait, you don't have any any more.
Much of which is probably not due to foreign trade issues, but increases in production efficiencies and automation.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/265cd8fb02fb44a69cf0eaa2063e11d9/mexico-taking-us-factory-jobs-blame-robots-instead

Associated Press wrote:"We're making more with fewer people," says Howard Shatz, a senior economist at the Rand Corp. think tank.

General Motors, for instance, now employs barely a third of the 600,000 workers it had in the 1970s. Yet it churns out more cars and trucks than ever.

Or look at production of steel and other primary metals. Since 1997, the United States has lost 265,000 jobs in the production of primary metals — a 42 percent plunge — at a time when such production in the U.S. has surged 38 percent.

Allan Collard-Wexler of Duke University and Jan De Loecker of Princeton University found last year that America didn't lose most steel jobs to foreign competition or faltering sales. Steel jobs vanished because of the rise of a new technology: Super-efficient mini-mills that make steel largely from scrap metal.


This is a reality that must be faced. Even in places like China, workers are being replaced by automation. It's easy and convenient to place all the blame on foreign dumping or undercutting, but increasingly automation is just making each individual worker much more productive and thus companies need less of them, though the rewards such productivity gains are captured almost entirely by shareholders rather than resulting in increased pay as well.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36376966

BBC wrote:Apple and Samsung supplier Foxconn has reportedly replaced 60,000 factory workers with robots.

One factory has "reduced employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000 thanks to the introduction of robots", a government official told the South China Morning Post.

Xu Yulian, head of publicity for the Kunshan region, added: "More companies are likely to follow suit."

China is investing heavily in a robot workforce.


At some point with automation growing the way it is. We will have to deal with a future where some people don't work.


The future? That future occurred 20 years ago.


Not to the extent it will be. We will have to come together as a country and make sure people can live when there is no jobs for them to do. I understand there is a problem now, but it will only get worse.
   
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Frostgrave

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
"You have no steelworkers".
"Yes we do".
"You have basically no steelworkers. Stop being obtuse".

Say what you fething mean in the first place then.


I think it was fairly obvious what he meant. There's only 2% of the steel workers there used to be.
   
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The Great State of Texas

 Vash108 wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 Vash108 wrote:
Spoiler:
 Vaktathi wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:

The USA has had a trade deficit since 1976.


Now you see the problem.


Not really, the jury is out on whether trade deficits are inherently bad or good or both or neither.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/trade-deficit-effects.asp


Tell all the steel workers in your country, oh wait, you don't have any any more.
Much of which is probably not due to foreign trade issues, but increases in production efficiencies and automation.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/265cd8fb02fb44a69cf0eaa2063e11d9/mexico-taking-us-factory-jobs-blame-robots-instead

Associated Press wrote:"We're making more with fewer people," says Howard Shatz, a senior economist at the Rand Corp. think tank.

General Motors, for instance, now employs barely a third of the 600,000 workers it had in the 1970s. Yet it churns out more cars and trucks than ever.

Or look at production of steel and other primary metals. Since 1997, the United States has lost 265,000 jobs in the production of primary metals — a 42 percent plunge — at a time when such production in the U.S. has surged 38 percent.

Allan Collard-Wexler of Duke University and Jan De Loecker of Princeton University found last year that America didn't lose most steel jobs to foreign competition or faltering sales. Steel jobs vanished because of the rise of a new technology: Super-efficient mini-mills that make steel largely from scrap metal.


This is a reality that must be faced. Even in places like China, workers are being replaced by automation. It's easy and convenient to place all the blame on foreign dumping or undercutting, but increasingly automation is just making each individual worker much more productive and thus companies need less of them, though the rewards such productivity gains are captured almost entirely by shareholders rather than resulting in increased pay as well.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36376966

BBC wrote:Apple and Samsung supplier Foxconn has reportedly replaced 60,000 factory workers with robots.

One factory has "reduced employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000 thanks to the introduction of robots", a government official told the South China Morning Post.

Xu Yulian, head of publicity for the Kunshan region, added: "More companies are likely to follow suit."

China is investing heavily in a robot workforce.


At some point with automation growing the way it is. We will have to deal with a future where some people don't work.


The future? That future occurred 20 years ago.


Not to the extent it will be. We will have to come together as a country and make sure people can live when there is no jobs for them to do. I understand there is a problem now, but it will only get worse.


While I agree with you, we won't. Most of the world has a tiny uber wealthy class and a vast poor to hyper poor group. That will only exacerbate.


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Herzlos wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
"You have no steelworkers".
"Yes we do".
"You have basically no steelworkers. Stop being obtuse".

Say what you fething mean in the first place then.


I think it was fairly obvious what he meant. There's only 2% of the steel workers there used to be.


Correct. Although the fact there were any surprised. From a BBC show a few months ago it sounded like TATA was going to close UK operations completely in a year.

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Herzlos wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
"You have no steelworkers".
"Yes we do".
"You have basically no steelworkers. Stop being obtuse".

Say what you fething mean in the first place then.


I think it was fairly obvious what he meant. There's only 2% of the steel workers there used to be.


Which is not the same as having 0.
   
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MN (Currently in WY)

 Vash108 wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 Vash108 wrote:
Spoiler:
 Vaktathi wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:

The USA has had a trade deficit since 1976.


Now you see the problem.


Not really, the jury is out on whether trade deficits are inherently bad or good or both or neither.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/trade-deficit-effects.asp


Tell all the steel workers in your country, oh wait, you don't have any any more.
Much of which is probably not due to foreign trade issues, but increases in production efficiencies and automation.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/265cd8fb02fb44a69cf0eaa2063e11d9/mexico-taking-us-factory-jobs-blame-robots-instead

Associated Press wrote:"We're making more with fewer people," says Howard Shatz, a senior economist at the Rand Corp. think tank.

General Motors, for instance, now employs barely a third of the 600,000 workers it had in the 1970s. Yet it churns out more cars and trucks than ever.

Or look at production of steel and other primary metals. Since 1997, the United States has lost 265,000 jobs in the production of primary metals — a 42 percent plunge — at a time when such production in the U.S. has surged 38 percent.

Allan Collard-Wexler of Duke University and Jan De Loecker of Princeton University found last year that America didn't lose most steel jobs to foreign competition or faltering sales. Steel jobs vanished because of the rise of a new technology: Super-efficient mini-mills that make steel largely from scrap metal.


This is a reality that must be faced. Even in places like China, workers are being replaced by automation. It's easy and convenient to place all the blame on foreign dumping or undercutting, but increasingly automation is just making each individual worker much more productive and thus companies need less of them, though the rewards such productivity gains are captured almost entirely by shareholders rather than resulting in increased pay as well.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36376966

BBC wrote:Apple and Samsung supplier Foxconn has reportedly replaced 60,000 factory workers with robots.

One factory has "reduced employee strength from 110,000 to 50,000 thanks to the introduction of robots", a government official told the South China Morning Post.

Xu Yulian, head of publicity for the Kunshan region, added: "More companies are likely to follow suit."

China is investing heavily in a robot workforce.


At some point with automation growing the way it is. We will have to deal with a future where some people don't work.


The future? That future occurred 20 years ago.


Not to the extent it will be. We will have to come together as a country and make sure people can live when there is no jobs for them to do. I understand there is a problem now, but it will only get worse.


This will be the defining challenge of the 21st century.

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Herzlos wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
"You have no steelworkers".
"Yes we do".
"You have basically no steelworkers. Stop being obtuse".

Say what you fething mean in the first place then.


I think it was fairly obvious what he meant. There's only 2% of the steel workers there used to be.


A trend that is reflected worldwide. There will always be a need for steel in the foreseeable future, but new materials are emerging, and of course, new manufacturing methods also reduce the number of workers needed.

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Canterbury

https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/825017459530936320


British press corp is locked outside the White House because our birthdates were submitted in UK format and secret service don't get it.


Spoiler:





...does any branch of your Govt. currently have a clue what it's doing ?

BTW :
Spoiler:





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Fantastic press conference with May and Trump.
Tomorrow he's looking forward to phone with Putin, Holland and Merkel.
I guess will be less fantastic up to the talk with the russian bear.

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I know we are weird (because we say "June 4th, 1985", whereas you say, "The 4th of June, 1985), but even I know that the brits use DD/MM/YYYY. Although this is why I think all forms with dates should specify.

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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Building a blood in water scent

 reds8n wrote:
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/825017459530936320


Spoiler:






Yeah! You be be like us, we don't give a feth what order you put your dates in!

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 reds8n wrote:
https://twitter.com/jimwaterson/status/825017459530936320

...does any branch of your Govt. currently have a clue what it's doing ?



Our national park services are handling things pretty well, I'd say!
   
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USA

 reds8n wrote:


golden.


Preposterous. I've been informed by the best people, the good people, that Twitter is full of beanie babies who wouldn't harm a fly, and would never say anything hateful

   
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Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!

Date formats in my codings has been my bugaboo for years...

We'll deal...

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Trump is against the EU. He has planned to build a golf course in Ireland. He has gotten the approval from Ireland, but for some reasons not from the EU. He hates the EU for that.

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USA

 Frazzled wrote:
 A Town Called Malus wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:

The USA has had a trade deficit since 1976.


Now you see the problem.


Not really, the jury is out on whether trade deficits are inherently bad or good or both or neither.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/08/trade-deficit-effects.asp


Tell all the steel workers in your country, oh wait, you don't have any any more.


The Steel Industry in America began dying in the 40s for a lot of reasons, the foremost being that it is really expensive to make steel in the US and steel costing a lot drives up prices on virtually everything because steel is so ubiquitous in consumer goods. On top of that, US Steel was always of middling quality anyway. The Iron resources in the US aren't exactly the best. The only reason we really had a booming steel industry in the first place was blatant protectionism and the abundance of coal in Appalachia.

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Catskills in NYS

 whembly wrote:
Date formats in my codings has been my bugaboo for years...

We'll deal...

I sort of like the Asian YYYY-MM-DD. And it fits with the HH:MM:SS continuation.

Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
 kronk wrote:
Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Date formats in my codings has been my bugaboo for years...

We'll deal...

I sort of like the Asian YYYY-MM-DD. And it fits with the HH:MM:SS continuation.

That's how most common PERL and PHP works.

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So, um, well. I'll be honest...

That press conference went WAY, WAY better than I expected. Trump behaved himself, even acted like an adult, overall.

I will admit, I kinda might have p**-ed myself a little bit when Laura Kuenssberg asked her question but after only a little awkwardness, it kinda worked out ok.

I'm not gonna say it was the best press conference on the face of the planet but, well, considering what it could very well have been, I'd call it a win.

If we're lucky, May (and, apparently, General Mattis), might be able to keep an eye on Trump, rein him in a little.
   
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 Compel wrote:
So, um, well. I'll be honest...

That press conference went WAY, WAY better than I expected. Trump behaved himself, even acted like an adult, overall.

I will admit, I kinda might have p**-ed myself a little bit when Laura Kuenssberg asked her question but after only a little awkwardness, it kinda worked out ok.

I'm not gonna say it was the best press conference on the face of the planet but, well, considering what it could very well have been, I'd call it a win.

If we're lucky, May (and, apparently, General Mattis), might be able to keep an eye on Trump, rein him in a little.

Just don't listen to him... WATCH what he does...

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On a surly Warboar, leading the Waaagh!

As far as Putin is concerned, Russian election meddling to benefit Trump... Best. Investment. Ever.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/conway-lifting-russian-sanctions-under-consideration/ar-AAmjMHP?li=BBnbcA1&ocid=ASUDHP

So the minute Obama passed the latest round of Russian sanctions, right before he left office, Paul Ryan stated emphatically that they were "overdue". Let's see how this plays out.


   
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USA

 Compel wrote:
So, um, well. I'll be honest...

That press conference went WAY, WAY better than I expected. Trump behaved himself, even acted like an adult, overall.

I will admit, I kinda might have p**-ed myself a little bit when Laura Kuenssberg asked her question but after only a little awkwardness, it kinda worked out ok.

I'm not gonna say it was the best press conference on the face of the planet but, well, considering what it could very well have been, I'd call it a win.

If we're lucky, May (and, apparently, General Mattis), might be able to keep an eye on Trump, rein him in a little.


Honestly just about anything would be an improvement over this past week.

   
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 wuestenfux wrote:
Trump is against the EU. He has planned to build a golf course in Ireland. He has gotten the approval from Ireland, but for some reasons not from the EU. He hates the EU for that.


Are you saying Trump is a wee bit vindictive?
   
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 Vash108 wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
Trump is against the EU. He has planned to build a golf course in Ireland. He has gotten the approval from Ireland, but for some reasons not from the EU. He hates the EU for that.


Are you saying Trump is a wee bit vindictive?


Water is a wee bit wet!

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Something I've noticed here in the last few days. Trump supporters seem to pop in now and then and offer one sentence summaries of what they like about him/his policies. When confronted with opposing facts, they don't respond . A few days go by, new Trump supporter sentences.

A few of our die hard right leaning supporters stay engaged. Whembly, Frazz, Prestor Jon, and so on. They make claims and counter claims and the thread goes on as usual but they attempt to make clear that they do not like or support Trump explicitly, just some of the policies.

Question: do we have, in the little dakka community, a Trump plant or two? I really doubt it. Do we have a few posters who are doing for trump what the right wing posters said was the initial problem with Obama--essentially religious fanatics? Seems more likely. But still, it doesn't really explain it. Where do the one hit wonders come from? What is their motive?

My opinion? The Trump fans have sublimated the way Trump thinks and talks into their own thoughts and posts. It is a twitter tweet tweet. It is an off hand comment that doesn't really mean anything other than how that person is feeling at that instant. Forget thought, get reaction. Film and post it. Done. Now move on to the next thought. The problem is that doesn't work for thought or analysis or debate.

Mr. Nuggaztheninja, Mr. Just Tony, Mr. (Redacted because they have made comments that have greeted them with bans for posting here), please tell me what your rationale for posting here is, if it isn't for actual discussion.

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 kronk wrote:
 Vash108 wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
Trump is against the EU. He has planned to build a golf course in Ireland. He has gotten the approval from Ireland, but for some reasons not from the EU. He hates the EU for that.


Are you saying Trump is a wee bit vindictive?


Water is a wee bit wet!


Technically, no it isn't.


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 Gordon Shumway wrote:
Something I've noticed here in the last few days. Trump supporters seem to pop in now and then and offer one sentence summaries of what they like about him/his policies. When confronted with opposing facts, they don't respond . A few days go by, new Trump supporter sentences.

A few of our die hard right leaning supporters stay engaged. Whembly, Frazz, Prestor Jon, and so on. They make claims and counter claims and the thread goes on as usual but they attempt to make clear that they do not like or support Trump explicitly, just some of the policies.

Question: do we have, in the little dakka community, a Trump plant or two? I really doubt it. Do we have a few posters who are doing for trump what the right wing posters said was the initial problem with Obama--essentially religious fanatics? Seems more likely. But still, it doesn't really explain it. Where do the one hit wonders come from? What is their motive?

My opinion? The Trump fans have sublimated the way Trump thinks and talks into their own thoughts and posts. It is a twitter tweet tweet. It is an off hand comment that doesn't really mean anything other than how that person is feeling at that instant. Forget thought, get reaction. Film and post it. Done. Now move on to the next thought. The problem is that doesn't work for thought or analysis or debate.


Alternatively, people simply lead busy lives and not everyone has the time or inclination for long drawn out in depth political discussions on a toy soldier forum...not a right wing conspiracy theory.

Next you'll be calling people Russian trolls.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

Some people fire and forget. They'll post a sentence or two, possibly a tirade of some type, then move on to something shinier and forget.

"Trump is awesome and you're lucky to have freedom!

Oooh! A painted Magnus the Red! Tee Hee!"

And...he's gone.

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