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Does anyone have the exact date when the Emperor supposedly defeated a shard of the void dragon and the date of when he locked the thing inside of Mars? I'm working on a theory concerning the pre 30k actions of the Emperor and if all goes well I'll post it in a little over a week.

It's Saint George and the Dragon, so 11th / 12th century

I think it's from Mechanicum - I'll check later.

beast_gts wrote:
It's Saint George and the Dragon, so 11th / 12th century

I think it's from Mechanicum - I'll check later.

Fairly certain the real life St. George lived in roman times (and was from Turkey, same place as Big E)

Cptn_Cronssant wrote:

beast_gts wrote:
It's Saint George and the Dragon, so 11th / 12th century

I think it's from Mechanicum - I'll check later.

Fairly certain the real life St. George lived in roman times (and was from Turkey, same place as Big E)

The character in Mechanicum says 11th / 12th century (and in Cyrene, Libya). It possible he's lying or has being lied to, or dates have drifted over the millennium.

It's also possible the author didn't read up on it too much when they decided to reference it.

If it refreshing every 10k years, then chances are the original date was a mupltile of 10k back from the events of mechanicum..

Just because a character in a novel has a vision of someone fighting a dragon doesn't mean it was the Emperor, or that it was the Void Dragon. Not every dragon shape in history or myth has to suddenly be the Void Dragon. Visions by their nature are unreliable, and the beliefs and interpretations of them by a novel character are also unreliable.

Iracundus wrote:
Just because a character in a novel has a vision of someone fighting a dragon doesn't mean it was the Emperor, or that it was the Void Dragon. Not every dragon shape in history or myth has to suddenly be the Void Dragon. Visions by their nature are unreliable, and the beliefs and interpretations of them by a novel character are also unreliable.

Judging by the appearances of the Nightbringer and the Deceiver, the Void Dragon is probably humanoid in shape.

Maximus Bitch wrote:

Iracundus wrote:
Just because a character in a novel has a vision of someone fighting a dragon doesn't mean it was the Emperor, or that it was the Void Dragon. Not every dragon shape in history or myth has to suddenly be the Void Dragon. Visions by their nature are unreliable, and the beliefs and interpretations of them by a novel character are also unreliable.

Judging by the appearances of the Nightbringer and the Deceiver, the Void Dragon is probably humanoid in shape.

I suddenly had this vision in my head of Deathwing from WoW in humanoid form except all silvery and "necronish". Of course with the GOD EMPRAH OF MANKIND and him in a giant brawl.

A ctan can be any damn shape it wants, I guess.

Also - food for thought: a Ctan shard plus a dolmen gate (which is what the core of the golden throne sounds likely to be) found on the same world? Plus the pariàh genone found in the dominant species? Most likely a necron tomb world.....

Iracundus wrote:
Just because a character in a novel has a vision of someone fighting a dragon doesn't mean it was the Emperor, or that it was the Void Dragon. Not every dragon shape in history or myth has to suddenly be the Void Dragon. Visions by their nature are unreliable, and the beliefs and interpretations of them by a novel character are also unreliable.

Given the massive amount of hints that there's a C'tan in the Noctis Labyrinthus in the 3rd Edition Necron codex and the context of the story in Mechanicum, it's pretty plainly obvious that the dragon they're referencing is indeed meant to be the Void Dragon.