Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 nintura wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Well since the Yncarne has an alternate weapon load out that is two blades as a set, perhaps they are it. That makes 5 after all.

The White Dwarf article says she's only got 3 of the 5 blades. So I doubt the alternate weapons are the final 2.

Yeah but your talking about the fluff from a WD. For all we know she has 3 of 5 at the start of gathering storm 2, but by the end of the story she has the final two and they could be the alternate weapons in the kit. It makes no sense to give the Yncarne an alternate load out otherwise.

It's an avatar... I'm sure it can do all kinds of things, like reshape weapons to suit it's needs. Or maybe the weapon itself can change. 40k has a history of them.

Sure, just as plausible as them being the other weapons. The Alternate daggers may be the other missing two or maybe they are meant to represent the avatar before the 3rd was found. I am not suggesting it's one way or the other just pointing out that the double blades could be the 4th and 5th sword.

They aren't the other weapons, this is clearly stated in White Dwarf.

Really unsure why you think WD wouldn't be a good source

Why do I have a feeling that Farsight and the space marine who has never drawn the mysterious sword have the last two swords of Ynead.

From a poster on another site.

"Because Farsight is Arha.

Arha burns with the Dark Flame of Chaos
Farsight will become the "mont'shaar" aka The Terror That Burns Dark

Coincidence? I think not."

If this is true this bodes ill for the Commander in my story. Very very badly.

Cypher? No, his Blade is Lion El'Jonson's sword. Though the psychic backlash that anyone experiences when they touch it certainly sounds like something the Eldar would have a Sword do.

Is Ahra a disembodied spirit can he take possession of Farsight like that? Or is he a physical being?

Edit
I hope this is a crazy dumb theory that was just some random internet person's guess even if the two descriptions of Farsight an Ahra sound similar. Also good to hear he doesn't have one.

 Gamgee wrote:
Is Ahra a disembodied spirit can he take possession of Farsight like that? Or is he a physical being?

Edit
I hope this is a crazy dumb theory that was just some random internet person's guess even if the two descriptions of Farsight an Ahra sound similar. Also good to hear he doesn't have one.

Yeah that better be some dumb theory. Eldar is now masquerading as Tau? Huge retcon that somehow Primarch of Dark Angels was walking around with sword made by Eldar god? Oh dear oh dear.

I wouldn't lose sleep over silly fan theories.

White dwarf says the Ynnead Avatars alternate load out is due to the weapons changing shape

I kinda figured it was weird since a quick look showed Ahra as an Eldar lol.

Vorian wrote:
I wouldn't lose sleep over silly fan theories.

White dwarf says the Ynnead Avatars alternate load out is due to the weapons changing shape

Phew. GW is making such a junky fluff at times there was off chance they might have done that. Good to know it wasn't quote from WD.

tneva82 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Is Ahra a disembodied spirit can he take possession of Farsight like that? Or is he a physical being?

Edit
I hope this is a crazy dumb theory that was just some random internet person's guess even if the two descriptions of Farsight an Ahra sound similar. Also good to hear he doesn't have one.

Yeah that better be some dumb theory. Eldar is now masquerading as Tau? Huge retcon that somehow Primarch of Dark Angels was walking around with sword made by Eldar god? Oh dear oh dear.

Considering the Lion Sword was forged on Terra, it would be a hefty retcon to make it an Eldar Blade. Luther's Sword could be one, though. Especially since it ended up in the hands of the Eldar at one point and was guarded like it was an important relic.

Arhra/Horus/Farsight.

All just a repeating mythical cycle - the great hero fallen into darkness.

Doesn't mean it's the same person or entity.

And yeah, WD explains that Ynneads weapon is itself a shape shifter type affair.

Sounds like vague mumbo jumbo to me.

Did the Lion's sword get reforged after Guilliman snapped it over his knee?

Eldar desperately need an ally and dismissed all the allies to save the galaxy from chaos and especially the Tau for being too young. They didn't even mention the Necrons and yet considered the Tyranids? Jeez these pointy ears are seriously dumb sometimes.

Anyways. Does this mean the Tau won't be in a grand alliance with IoM/Eldar? This seems to be pushing them into another alliances camp. The most likely candidate is Tau/Necrons as an alliance. Unless the Tau get real cozy with the Nids and Orks all of a sudden. So the factions are shaping up to be... Anti-Chaos Magical Alliance, Chaos Confederacy, The Xenobros, and then The Assorted Gits and Monsters.

Edit
Would it be possible for Exodites to fight their own kin and hate them so much they get put in the Xenobros alliance? Or will they get grouped under the greater Eldar faction? If I can double roll troll Trollzyn and Farsight in a single alliance list this will be a good day.

How I imagine the two forces getting along.

Some new WD photos on /tg, including the characters in detail (more if you scroll down a bit)

http://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/51480204

Hmmm, so it seems the Ynnari will indeed include wraith units.

Welp, if GW is dumb enough to include both wraith units and windriders in the Ynnari rules, then we all know what *those* formations/detachments are always only ever going to consist of!

Also mentioned, I saw a pic on facebook showing more about the Trial of Eldrad, them talking to him saying he doesn't have the right to take the future of their race into his hands, seeing as he's barely Eldar at all. Not sure what that means, was Eldrad a half breed?


Automatically Appended Next Post:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Some new WD photos on /tg, including the characters in detail (more if you scroll down a bit)

http://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/51480204

Can anyone copy pasta this into a response? I can't see 4chan here at work.

Probably because he's turning to Crystal?

 nintura wrote:
Also mentioned, I saw a pic on facebook showing more about the Trial of Eldrad, them talking to him saying he doesn't have the right to take the future of their race into his hands, seeing as he's barely Eldar at all. Not sure what that means, was Eldrad a half breed?


Automatically Appended Next Post:

Warhams-77 wrote:
Some new WD photos on /tg, including the characters in detail (more if you scroll down a bit)

http://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/51480204

Can anyone copy pasta this into a response? I can't see 4chan here at work.

Also of note, somebody on Iyanden is going to die, but be brought back.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 BloodGrin wrote:

You are an awesome person

via the FB page :

So it seems Yvraine is the main character here. She's pulling the strings

Behind every avatar of a death deity stands a strong independent woman.

I don't know how anyone else feels, but I think I like the idea of the characters being complete unknowns as opposed to re-purposing older characters.

What I'm really curious about is if the Ynnari will have a mechanic not wholly unlike the Khorne Daemonkin, but instead of blood tithe tokens being used to bring new units the tokens just enhance the existing ones; it'll be a hell of a balancing act on the table.

Well, poop. Now I know why Eldrad is on trial. He screwed up the prophecy. In the WD it's mentioned that he "prematurely awakened Ynnead" meaning it wasn't in his full power, or we only got a half baked god. Meaning that he likely won't have the power to stop Slaanesh now. If you've ever seen the original Underworld movie, you'll have an idea of what I mean when the Vampire Lord Victor explains why they weren't meant to be awakened so early.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 Gremore wrote:
Behind every avatar of a death deity stands a strong independent woman.

I don't know how anyone else feels, but I think I like the idea of the characters being complete unknowns as opposed to re-purposing older characters.

What I'm really curious about is if the Ynnari will have a mechanic not wholly unlike the Khorne Daemonkin, but instead of blood tithe tokens being used to bring new units the tokens just enhance the existing ones; it'll be a hell of a balancing act on the table.

Well, supposedly they get more powerful the more Ynnari units that die. But there's a catch, that means you want tons of small units, which give away kill points. It seems these can also summon the Avatar of Ynnead, and power up the other two characters "so that Yvraine can become the strongest psyker in game"

Well, supposedly they get more powerful the more Ynnari units that die. But there's a catch, that means you want tons of small units, which give away kill points. It seems these can also summon the Avatar of Ynnead, and power up the other two characters "so that Yvraine can become the strongest psyker in game"

Yeah I'm just making supposition on how it works you know? Will it be like the old pain token mechanic for Deldar where it happened immediately, or is there like a pool so you can pick and choose, etc. etc.

All information we obviously have to wait for, I'm just gnashing at the bit waiting

When an Eldar God,
Is in the material realm,
Who ya gonna call?

ORDO MALLEUS!

 nintura wrote:
So it seems Yvraine is the main character here. She's pulling the strings

Hard not to be the main character if you are the only one of the 3 that actually talks. The Yncarne description says it only communicates through death and manipulation of spiritual energy. I'm guessing Yvraine is the mouthpiece/prophet/herald that interprets and preaches.

Well yeah, but it's a setting, they couldn't awaken Ynnead and everything go exactly right and there be nothing else to do

It got partially awoken and now they have to go find more swords and each Eldar that dies powers it up a bit.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Some new WD photos on /tg, including the characters in detail (more if you scroll down a bit)

http://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/51480204

So after reading that I could see how Farsight's sword could be one.

I'm wondering if GW bothered to deal with the issue of Iyanna Arienal. She was according to the Iyanden book, trying to search for artifacts called the Tears of Morai-Heg (and kill all the remaining living on Iyanden) in order to awaken Ynnead.

I can't imagine she would take well to Yvraine, and would probably denounce Yvraine as a false prophet, possibly also the Yncarne as a daemon or corrupted shard of Ynnead. Eldar religious factionalism on the horizon?