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Update, working on language, but we will be applying obsec along the lines of it applying to any shared faction detachment for faction keywords, with the exception of Chaos, Imperium, Aeldari, and Tyranids.

Basically the meta faction umbrellas don't confer it, but otherwise it is good to go.

MVBrandt wrote:
Update, working on language, but we will be applying obsec along the lines of it applying to any shared faction detachment for faction keywords, with the exception of Chaos, Imperium, Aeldari, and Tyranids.

Basically the meta faction umbrellas don't confer it, but otherwise it is good to go.

So adeptus Astartes would confer it even if not all the same chapter?

Yes, though I'm uncertain why you'd give up all of your traits, stratagems, etc to do that. You'd be basically turning your marines into worse marines in order to get a rule they'd have had anyway.

Final 40K GT Details:

Missions are being finalized today in terms of residual typos.

Due to GW updates, we are only using the following tweak:
Command Re-rolls may not be used when determining who goes first, seize the initiative, or the end of game roll.

The following GW rules are in play:
All FAQ, Errata, Stepping Into a New Edition documents
All Indexes (GW & FW), and Codexes: GK, SM, CSM
Per Warhammer Community, the previewed Chapter Approved rules for Objective Secured, Boots on the Ground (Flyer Battlefield Role units cannot control Objectives), and the updated +1 to go first First Turn mechanic

2,000 points, maximum of the 3 suggested detachments for that size

Warlord & Chapter Relic (the free one) must be included on your Army List

Psychic Powers, Warlord Traits, and additional Relics due to Command Point usage are all determined pregame.

For Objective Secured:

On August 9, 2017, the Warhammer Community site introduced the Objective Secured rule and its planned use at NOVA Open. Since Chapter Approved is still forthcoming, Games Workshop clarified for us which Factions gain Objective Secured for the NOVA Open. To wit:

If your army is Battle-forged, all Troops units in <Faction> Detachments gain this ability, so long as their Faction is one of the following: Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Deathwatch, Astra Militarum, Adeptus Mechanicus, Adeptus Ministorum, Asuryani, Drukhari, Harlequins, Chaos Daemons, Renegades & Heretics, Thousand Sons, Death Guard, Necrons, T’au Empire, Orks, <Hive Fleet>, and Genestealer Cults.

Troops units with Objective Secured that are within range of an objective marker (as specified in each mission's rules) control it even if there are more enemy models within range of it. If an enemy unit within range of an objective marker has a similar ability, then it is controlled by the player who has the most models within range as normal.

Note: Codex: Grey Knights, Codex: Chaos Space Marines, and Codex: Space Marines are explicitly not covered by Objective Secured because their Codexes provide a similar rule (i.e. Defenders of Humanity).

For Codex and Index conflicts on wargear options for the same unit, we will finalize a decision on that, but will likely require you to only use the newer Datasheets in all cases (including such things as using updated Horror datasheets and points from CSM when including them in primarily Index: Chaos Daemons armies) for Matched Play.

ok...so just to clarify.

If I have a Patrol Detachment that contains: 1 Company Commander. 1 squad of 20 Conscripts, 1 Commissar and 1 Astropath.

The Conscripts would have Obj secure ?

Thank you, MVBrandt and everyone else at NOVA! This is great!

Just to clarify since this seemed to have changed from previous Novas. In the relic mission the turn by turn player can now move the relic?

Ed: yes

Aud: np

Chance: good catch

missing it again. have fun everyone, awesome event.

Final updates have been posted for the 40k Trios and 40k Narrative event primers.

40k Trios is pretty full and will be a big event, but still has a couple spots open if any teams want to jump in for a great way to start off the convention. This event was a blast last year and had a ton of amazing armies and team displays.

40k Narrative Warlords, Dayfights, and Nightfights are all sold out except for the opening night! That's almost twice as many players as last year! Glad many people are already planning to join us, and if you're not signed up but coming in Thursday evening, we'd love to have you as well! The heavily thematic missions were a lot of fun before, and they're even better under eighth edition. For example, because vehicles are more predictably durable, the Convoy mission is more achievable and has led to a bunch of super tight games.

40k Narrative Recon Squads skirmishes have slots available, and I think these will be even better this year. The format is a bit closer to regular play through a few 8e changes like every model having split fire all the time now. We also opened up reserves for units with such abilities, since as standard the majority can't go into reserve now, so Reiver squads and such now play straight to their fluff. The new Specialist Traits we came up with are also generally a lot more active and I think much more interesting than the previous list of USR traits. Join us if you've got a handful of models and ~90 minutes!

40k Narrative Apocalypse has some slots remaining. Should be overwhelming, chaotic, and also a great time, exactly as it should be. The scoring rules and to-be-revealed Strategic Resources earned in the course of the campaign will keep a lot of the focus on troops and regular units, not just a game of whoever brought the biggest model. This is going to be a really climactic way to end this year's narrative.

Hope to see you there!

Tsilber wrote:
missing it again. have fun everyone, awesome event.

Will miss you, buddy!

For the GT missions, if someone is tabled on Turn 4-5, do we still roll to see if the game goes to extra turns?

 JohnU wrote:
For the GT missions, if someone is tabled on Turn 4-5, do we still roll to see if the game goes to extra turns?

Yup, you only earn what you earn.

Question: For the relic mission. In the past if option 2 was selected(turn by turn scoring) the relic was not able to be picked up and moved. Is that still the case? It doesn't appear in the primer packet that I can find.

Removed based on playtesting outcomes.

Did you decide something on the index vs codex front ?

Typically can SM have a librarian on bike ? The index has a "Librarian on bike" entry that does not exist in the codex (so not replaced per se). However regular librarian entry in the codex cannot take a bike.

Same question but for codex-less armies that use index SM units (like BA, DA, etc...)

 RabbitMaster wrote:
Did you decide something on the index vs codex front ?

Typically can SM have a librarian on bike ? The index has a "Librarian on bike" entry that does not exist in the codex (so not replaced per se). However regular librarian entry in the codex cannot take a bike.

Same question but for codex-less armies that use index SM units (like BA, DA, etc...)

Any datasheet was replaced by the codex. Same is true for their points, etc. If a Libby biker is only in the index (not that you'd want one other than for aesthetics), you can still use it. Moreover it must use the updated SM point list (to the extent it is able). So space wolves units that simply point at replaced SM gear, datasheets, points that have now been updated would use the updated points, etc. Obviously only <chapter> units for codex:sm can use the stratagems, abilities, etc from the latter part of the codex.

One week! Still have 11 models and a display board to finish!

MVBrandt wrote:
So space wolves units that simply point at replaced SM gear, datasheets, points that have now been updated would use the updated points, etc.

Unless I've missed a pronouncement (definitely possible), this contradicts what GW has been saying, e.g., the Q&A quoted below. Not that it doesn't make sense, but based on a local sampling it's not safe to assume players are going to realize this given previous prominent official statements to the opposite.

If I have a Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Space Wolves army, will I need to buy Codex: Space Marines to use my army?
You don’t have to. Other Space Marines factions not covered in the new codex will continue to use all the datasheets, rules and points values in the index until their own codex is released. Rules for new models not covered in the index (like the upcoming Redemptor Dreadnought) will be available in the box with the model and matched play points for these units will be made available online.

 tjkopena wrote:

MVBrandt wrote:
So space wolves units that simply point at replaced SM gear, datasheets, points that have now been updated would use the updated points, etc.

Unless I've missed a pronouncement (definitely possible), this contradicts what GW has been saying, e.g., the Q&A quoted below. Not that it doesn't make sense, but based on a local sampling it's not safe to assume players are going to realize this given previous prominent official statements to the opposite.

If I have a Blood Angels, Dark Angels or Space Wolves army, will I need to buy Codex: Space Marines to use my army?
You don’t have to. Other Space Marines factions not covered in the new codex will continue to use all the datasheets, rules and points values in the index until their own codex is released. Rules for new models not covered in the index (like the upcoming Redemptor Dreadnought) will be available in the box with the model and matched play points for these units will be made available online.

Those armies are certainly permitted to use their old index entries in lieu of purchasing a new codex, but may also use the updated datasheets for Codex SM that their own lists refer to.

Also, as an FYI to all, ONLINE REGISTRATION IS SHUTTING DOWN IMMINENTLY.

You may still sign up for things on-site, and there are plenty of events with spots left here and there. Nevertheless, we are looking at BY FAR the largest NOVA Open to date, with our largest single-year growth to date, and it's looking like we'll have over 2,000 people attend.

Huge year ... can't wait to see everyone next week!

Mike are there still trios spots open ? I have a Battle for Salvation team. If not I need to tell the guys not to bother coming in early on thursday

Yup! Over 70 players in it this year, too. You'll have to register on site at this point but we're set up for the full GT by then, so there should be plenty of room.

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
One week! Still have 11 models and a display board to finish!

lol - in the same boat but I bet my boats bigger I'm playing IG...too many bodies....

Just started my display board this morning before leaving for work

So it begins

I'm so glad that I double checked the times, and it looks like the GW Preview Event's pickup starts at 6, not closes at 6! I land at 5:20 and was really worried I wouldn't get over in time.

For the 40K enthusiasts,

Most lists can be found here: https://mismatchedplay.com/2017/08/31/nova-invitational-lists/

And they will be updated once I make it to DC and find the ones missing.

The stream of the tournament is on twitch.tv/mismatchedplay and I believe Games Workshop have their own setup as well so we might be alternating.

I'm not sure how much I will be able to do /check from NOVA, but I'll do my best to answer all questions.

Cheers!

Who won and with what?

Wondering the same thing, just looking for a link to updates on all the 40k stuff that happened.

 buddha wrote:
Who won and with what?

Allans Imperial Guards won

If I remember right, the top 2 lists we're AM with 100+ Conscripts each.

Great tournament and we'll run by all the NOVA! Thanks, guys!