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Mac V wrote:
Someone ran across a listing for Warhammer Fantasy 2nd edition showing Cubicle 7 as the publisher.....

That could be really cool...

You ain't kidding.

I've been looking for an excuse to buy their stuff. I just don't RPG anymore.

This could change that.

Their Lord of the Rings RPG is probably my favourite system. Simple, easy to use and intuitive yet you can do so much in game...

They are a bit light on fluff though.

Oh dear, the fluff is the entire reason I buy those rpg books.

Who can say what will happen yet, though.

There do contain a lot of fluff, just not as much as I would expect. They are quite constrained by their setting in their LotR games so perhaps if they do make a Warhammer RPG they could really expand on the fluff.

a deal with a major European publisher for world-wide distribution rights to Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay

"Distrubution rights". Does this mean they will just be re-printing existing Warhammer Fantasy roleplay stuff?

Ah, that's true. I didn't think about the wiggle-room restrictions that LotR would have.

That's the beauty of Warhammer, though. The skies the limit of what you can do with it. (Barring the angry lore masters of course. )

I'd rather it wasn't Modiphius but nice to know GW want to see their rpgs continue in some fashion.

Now if they could work out the 40K RPGs so I can get back to writing them.

My group and I are still thoroughly enjoying 3rd edition WFRP, I would love to have more content for it....however, I understand the chance of that is very slim. Still, whatever ends up getting published using the Old World fluff I would happily buy and convert.

 Asmodai wrote:

Mac V wrote:

I'd love a return to the Old World, but I think AoS will have more to offer given the recent advancements of the story line...

Yes, and I already have WFRP 2nd ed. for Old World adventures. There's not much point in redoing something most fans already own.

You mean apart from it being literally the only possible avenue for more content for the WHF setting, at least for several years and possibly forever? 3/4 of the Warhammer World was barely explored or even completely unexplored, there's plenty of material still there, and that's just in the "present day" - they could produce an almost limitless number of "historical" adventures and sourcebooks.

By contrast, an AoS RPG will be a nightmare. Putting aside the comparative lack of detail in the setting(and note, I don't mean "this isn't fleshed out yet" I mean "some parts of this setting are deliberately simplified relative to WHF") to work with(how do you squeeze something like Tome of Salvation out of AoS, make up twenty very-slightly-different local variations of Sigmar worship?), the big appeal for AoS tabletop fans is ostensibly the ongoing storyline that evidently shows no signs of stopping, so what, you buy multiple expensive sourcebooks and then the next summer GW run another campaign that wipes out half the content from those books and then jumps the timeline forward another few decades.

Crikey, if an ongoing story is a bad idea for a wargame where narrative play is only one aspect of participation(and I continue to believe that it is), it's an absolutely abysmal idea for an RPG where literally the whole point is to give players the tools to tell stories of their own. I can think of maybe one DM out of a dozen I know that wouldn't balk at the idea of the company having a bigger say in the story than them.

Maybe in 10 years when AoS has accrued enough history and content to actually be a setting and GW have calmed down the timeline churn a bit an AoS RPG would be a good idea.

In short: if this means WHFRP comes back and, even better, produces new content for the setting then great, otherwise meh and good luck, they'll need it.

Nothing will ever compare to the first edition by Hogshead.

On another, related note- The MMO has an ongoing following and is still joinable after the required hoops jumping...

https://www.returnofreckoning.com/about.php

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Asmodai wrote:

Mac V wrote:

I'd love a return to the Old World, but I think AoS will have more to offer given the recent advancements of the story line...

Yes, and I already have WFRP 2nd ed. for Old World adventures. There's not much point in redoing something most fans already own.

You mean apart from it being literally the only possible avenue for more content for the WHF setting, at least for several years and possibly forever? 3/4 of the Warhammer World was barely explored or even completely unexplored, there's plenty of material still there, and that's just in the "present day" - they could produce an almost limitless number of "historical" adventures and sourcebooks.

By contrast, an AoS RPG will be a nightmare. Putting aside the comparative lack of detail in the setting(and note, I don't mean "this isn't fleshed out yet" I mean "some parts of this setting are deliberately simplified relative to WHF") to work with(how do you squeeze something like Tome of Salvation out of AoS, make up twenty very-slightly-different local variations of Sigmar worship?), the big appeal for AoS tabletop fans is ostensibly the ongoing storyline that evidently shows no signs of stopping, so what, you buy multiple expensive sourcebooks and then the next summer GW run another campaign that wipes out half the content from those books and then jumps the timeline forward another few decades.

Crikey, if an ongoing story is a bad idea for a wargame where narrative play is only one aspect of participation(and I continue to believe that it is), it's an absolutely abysmal idea for an RPG where literally the whole point is to give players the tools to tell stories of their own. I can think of maybe one DM out of a dozen I know that wouldn't balk at the idea of the company having a bigger say in the story than them.

Maybe in 10 years when AoS has accrued enough history and content to actually be a setting and GW have calmed down the timeline churn a bit an AoS RPG would be a good idea.

In short: if this means WHFRP comes back and, even better, produces new content for the setting then great, otherwise meh and good luck, they'll need it.

Regarding the tome of salvation: you could actually make priests of the other gods. Pantheon outright states that there's humans worshipping Teclis Tyrion and Alariell. Other novels show us people worship nagash as a god too. So you can easily make a cult for each of these gods, maybe a variation or two of a few (sigmar and grimnir, for example) and call it a day).

Indeed, they can also import smaller deities from the World-the-was or even create new ones that can be a plot-hook of a disguised god or even a inhabitant of the mortal realms before Sigmar's pantheon arrived like the god-beasts.

and that's just in the "present day" - they could produce an almost limitless number of "historical" adventures and sourcebooks. 

 the big appeal for AoS tabletop fans is ostensibly the ongoing storyline that evidently shows no signs of stopping, so what, you buy multiple expensive sourcebooks and then the next summer GW run another campaign that wipes out half the content from those books and then jumps the timeline forward another few decades. 

Wouldn't these basically be the same things as historical rpgs?

Maybe in 10 years when AoS has accrued enough history and content to actually be a setting and GW have calmed down the timeline churn a bit anAoS RPG would be a good idea. 

I don't know if it needs that long, it's already cranking out alot of background content and a rpg would serve to create more of that world rather than play on things already known like a Old World rpg would.


Oh well, it's a win-win for me either way so best of luck to the Old Guard getting some more content.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Indeed, they can also import smaller deities from the World-the-was or even create new ones that can be a plot-hook of a disguised god or even a inhabitant of the mortal realms before Sigmar's pantheon arrived like the god-beasts.

Yeah, I mean, Behemat was worshipped by giants but he may as well become the object of worship of human tribes that lived in the Great Green Torc, and then there's the Ur-Phoenix and his servants, who are pretty much templars with pointy ears. If it's for gods, AoS isn't exactly lacking.

Lord Kragan wrote:
They did say they also wanted to sell the license for AoS. Do we have any news on that front?

As much as I despise AOS, I wouldn't be against a RPG in that setting. It would give a chance to move beyond the shallow gigantic battle of faceless superheroes, and more info on the actual life in AOS is (yeah I know that the last novel is supposed to go into this a bit, but not interested enough in AOS to read it, while I would no doubt read a RPG book)

In the end cubicle7 got the deal:

http://grimandperilous.com/?p=1058

That's...not what that link says?

 Alpharius wrote:
That's...not what that link says?

DriveThruRPG now shows Cubicle7 as the distributer for all Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay products:

https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/240974-games-workshop-concluding-deal-for-licensing-rights-to-warhammer-fantasy-roleplay/#comment-2610443

That's what the link says. It's in the title and subtitle. But yeah, shoddy editing in their part.

 reds8n wrote:


... This won't mean 9th edition or anything before that starts m'kay ?!

WHAT??!! 9th edition??!! When??!! Where??!!


A man can dream...


But I actually would be interested in a new WHFB RPG, if only for a return to the old world and a fresh take.

Lord Kragan wrote:

In the end cubicle7 got the deal:

http://grimandperilous.com/?p=1058

Excellent.

Distribution rights, to me that says distrib rights of the old stuff rather than the rights to produce new stuff, right?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Distribution rights, to me that says distrib rights of the old stuff rather than the rights to produce new stuff, right?

As it stands, the original rumour was regarding the WFRP license though and the available evidence appears to be limited to an online shop so we will need to wait out for more information.

Lord Kragan wrote:

 reds8n wrote:
I can't really see any company snapping up the rights to help sell 2nd hand books -- although one would love some form of compatibility with previous editions.

One wonders if a potential way to do it would be to release sourcebook/settings in different eras as well as places.

Say a "war of the Beard" era book or the 1st war against chaos.

Presumably freed from any studio imposed restraints it wouldn't be impossible for them to potentially map out previously unexplored or less well known areas : Lustria or Cathay or wherever.

Figure if it does happen we're in for at least 1 chaos supplement eh ?

Perhaps my dream for an Ulthuan source can still be realised.

I'd kill for a fantasy based (be it old world or AOS) RPG where we get to be a servant of any of the chaos gods. I'd love it.

You could do that in 1st and 2nd edition.

The RoC books covered it for 1st .

Tome of Corruption for 2nd.

2nd edition book -- much like the system -- worked better.

Only did 1 chaos campaign but it was fun for a while.

I mean in the new material. If they release a toc equivalent I'm shelling the cash for it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Distribution rights, to me that says distrib rights of the old stuff rather than the rights to produce new stuff, right?

That's what the article read like to me.

We still don't know who (if anyone?) is producing WFRP 4E?

2nd ed. still my fav RPG of all time and the most fun I've had. We did use some 1st ed. once in a while for story or inspiration. Never touched 3rd. Absolutely open to a new ed.

Whatever that deal means, the screenshot shown in the link is from someone's own downloads page. Warhammer FRP books aren't listed for sale on DrivethruRPG right now.

 streetsamurai wrote:

As much as I despise AOS, I wouldn't be against a RPG in that setting. It would give a chance to move beyond the shallow gigantic battle of faceless superheroes, and more info on the actual life in AOS is (yeah I know that the last novel is supposed to go into this a bit, but not interested enough in AOS to read it, while I would no doubt read a RPG book)

This. I love the Old World, but frankly, there already is a lot of material for it. I'd rather see AOS setting fleshed out, and I would love to have the setting information easily available in RPG sourcebook format, rather than spread out across several terrible novels (I did read 'the Gates of Azyr'; without any hyperbole, I can say it was the worst novel I have ever read. Not touching any BL stuff again.)

 Crimson wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:

As much as I despise AOS, I wouldn't be against a RPG in that setting. It would give a chance to move beyond the shallow gigantic battle of faceless superheroes, and more info on the actual life in AOS is (yeah I know that the last novel is supposed to go into this a bit, but not interested enough in AOS to read it, while I would no doubt read a RPG book)

This. I love the Old World, but frankly, there already is a lot of material for it. I'd rather see AOS setting fleshed out, and I would love to have the setting information easily available in RPG sourcebook format, rather than spread out across several terrible novels (I did read 'the Gates of Azyr'; without any hyperbole, I can say it was the worst novel I have ever read. Not touching any BL stuff again.)

You went and read the worst novel (alongside warstorm's first third... which features the same characters.) of the setting as your first attempt? OH gee. Seriously, though, that gak was bad. If you ever want to read AoS novels, though, I recommend you go for Knigths of Vengeance and Mortarch of Night's series. Far better and interesting, stormcasts there have actual personality and there's more characters than them (plus Mannfred, oh... Mannfred)