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I thnk part of the reason there's no USA FW factory is because GW isn't quite sure what its doing with FW in itself.

There's clearly some internal issues going on - FW formed an AoS team; then disbanded it after they only made a few alternate heads; then this last winter they stripped out a good number of models.
Plus about the only AoS army that got any of its FW models shown off in a big way on the community pages when they got a new Battletome was Gloomspite Gitz - who surprise surprise didn't lose any in the recent slash of models.However a large number of "destruction only" models which didn't get any showing even when Destruction finally got some new tomes for orruks and the like - were removed.


There's also other oddities as well. Plus the specialist games suddenly doing way better than GW even hoped for.



All in all I think FW is still stuck in a very odd position - odder still in so much as GW central can now do big models, likely cheaper in terms of production time; and bigger than FW could do- all in plastic that the consumer market loves way more than resin

I just get the feeling that GW doesn't want to close FW, but also doesn't really want to expand it fully as its own thing either too much

I was planning on getting two boxes anyway, so if this turns out less than £40 then it's a win.

Wonder if Lancers will get a re-box to four models too.

changemod wrote:

And if I want four Acheron for a full squad but only two castigator for display because they’re useless for gameplay?

Hopefully they'll update the rules for the bolt cannon, upping the strength to 4.

For the time being they can be useful for stripping void shields when used as a lance banner. While the Questoris with their avenger cannons are better, they aren't as fast nor durable as the Cerastus.



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 xttz wrote:


Wonder if Lancers will get a re-box to four models too.

A welcome possibility, although I suspect they released the variants as such to provide at least one legit lance banner, which the C-Lancer set already provides.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
The new knights being 4 to a box is a big surprise, but not an unwelcome one. I'll definitely pick a box up to add to my pile of unbuilt knights.

 gorgon wrote:
I'm just hoping to get Ursus claws and shock lances in the near future. It's awesome that my Legio (Audax) has its rules, but it'd be nice to get the gear they teased weeks ago...

I'm being realistic about Audax transfers and assuming I won't get those for months. And that's okay.

At least you're in the enviable position of playing a Titan Legion whose popularity borderline guarantees you will actually receive transfers! Would that we all be so lucky

Am I though? We've seen legios that aren't released yet get transfers, while others are still waiting. That's the garage operation, right there. But like I said, I'm not sweating those.

Now, the claws/lances...those I'll have a tiny bit of anxiety about until they're actually made available. Because I know The Legend of the Atomantic Pavise.

Plus NA will probably be allotted 30 copies that will sell out in the first four minutes.


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 Overread wrote:
I just get the feeling that GW doesn't want to close FW, but also doesn't really want to expand it fully as its own thing either too much

This is probably accurate.

A bit strange they haven't already released the Ursus Claws.

Should be up for an Engine Kill article next week, so heres hoping.

 Yodhrin wrote:

I honestly don't understand why they don't have a small casting team in the USA like they used to for metal GW models before Kirby's slash & burn costcutting. It's not like they're going to run into a China situation where the factory might do "extra" runs for personal profit, in America GW could retain very tight control. Is working with resin casting a particularly highly paid position in America or something?

Apparently their previous US operation had a bad reputation for casting up a fair amount on the side when it was running (at least so the rumour goes passed on from a variety of folks who were around at the time)

let the casters out of Nottingham and they can go rogue

but it does sound as if it might be worth another try (at least for stuff they can 3D print masters for), they'd just have to run the numbers to see is hiring some managers, mould makers, casters etc and an appropriate site would make financial sense. Even if there is demand it might not support what they'd want to do

SamusDrake wrote:
A bit strange they haven't already released the Ursus Claws.

Should be up for an Engine Kill article next week, so heres hoping.

They ought to have made the ursus claw and shock lance into a plastic MI I sprue with an extra set of thigh pads so you can build both warhounds as loyal or traitor from one box.

Indeed, that would have been preferrable, Wes.

Anyone remember when preorders go up in the US? If claws go up, they’ll disappear quickly.

 gorgon wrote:
Anyone remember when preorders go up in the US? If claws go up, they’ll disappear quickly.

I think Forge World is friday, I’d assume 1pm est. Don’t take it as gospel though.

I'm really excited for the new Cerastus kit since its confirmed they're 4 to a box.

We can hope the range of poseablility is similar or greater than the Lancers, given how variable they are.. the heads having a little more variation in them would be nice as well. Looks like some reinforcements will be making a warp exit soon....hopefully.

I'm very much hoping the 4 box will let us build four of either Knight, as I have a lot of Lancers and I'm not super keen on the look of them, so ideally I'd like to use four of my Lancers into something else with this box (if it has 4x Arch and 4x Castigator options).

I wouldn't get hopes too high. Likely a sprue with 2 poses and one of each of weapon doubled.

It almost definitely that.

Still, and GW will be happy to have you do this, just buy two boxes and you'll have 4 of each!

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
A bit strange they haven't already released the Ursus Claws.

Should be up for an Engine Kill article next week, so heres hoping.

They ought to have made the ursus claw and shock lance into a plastic MI I sprue with an extra set of thigh pads so you can build both warhounds as loyal or traitor from one box.

So what plastic sprue you would have given up in return? Warmonger? Knight? Warlord alt sprue?


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 Alpharius wrote:
It almost definitely that.

Still, and GW will be happy to have you do this, just buy two boxes and you'll have 4 of each!

Too bad4 of them is useless

Rule writer cannot figure out how to implement gatling weapons in the game, so he just gave up. Massively reduced number of shots, new rule to make sure the smaller gatling weapon can't pierce void shields, wrong range/ shot scaling between the different gatling weapons. And just straight up delete a weapon (vulcan mega bolter from Arioch fist)

James Hewitt has done an interview for Goonhammer. Lots of interesting talk on design and how Titanicus was switch, last second, from Resin to Plastic because of the success of Blood Bowl:

https://www.goonhammer.com/the-goonhammer-interview-with-james-m-hewitt-part-2-blood-bowl-and-adeptus-titanicus/

Also interesting is the scale mechanic and close combat...

It's not surprising to see the interaction of product design and rules design there. Still, a fantastic article. Goonhammer is great.

tneva82 wrote:

So what plastic sprue you would have given up in return? Warmonger? Knight? Warlord alt sprue?

Nothing wrong with a bit of wishful thinking. We are customers after all.


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Too bad4 of them is useless

As freeblades, yes, as part of a lance banner - which this set will provide - no.

Obviously you can use coordinated strike which, so long as the command test is successful, makes the Castigator very useful for stripping shields while closing in for the kill.


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 zedmeister wrote:
James Hewitt has done an interview for Goonhammer. Lots of interesting talk on design and how Titanicus was switch, last second, from Resin to Plastic because of the success of Blood Bowl:

https://www.goonhammer.com/the-goonhammer-interview-with-james-m-hewitt-part-2-blood-bowl-and-adeptus-titanicus/

Also interesting is the scale mechanic and close combat...

That was a very interesting read, especially with Knights having their own game. We play a home made skirmish version of AT which works like Kill Team - a Titan is basically a Commander, and a Knight Scion is otherwise the leader. Each model just needs a single dice to track its wounds on the table. Thinking about adding the Arvus Lighter for dropping off supplies'n'troops or picking up vital cargo.

Hi, a bit late, but maybe I’m the guy? can’t post links, so look for Adeptus-Dad.

The legendary "classic" warhound! Was looking at that site last year and omg GW needs to get on the case with that one! Brilliant work.

I was admiring your Proteus Pattern Warhound on Reddit the other day, didn't know you had them on shapeways, I'll have to pick some up!

They are amazing! Ordered a complete set of 2

lergas wrote:
Hi, a bit late, but maybe I’m the guy? can’t post links, so look for Adeptus-Dad.

That stuff is awesome!

IMPERATOR TITAN SPOTTED!!!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/25/legio-tempestus-house-taranis-and-an-imperator-titan/

...haha - gotcha.

SamusDrake wrote:
IMPERATOR TITAN SPOTTED!!!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/25/legio-tempestus-house-taranis-and-an-imperator-titan/

...haha - gotcha.

Pretty good conversion. Fairly close in scale too. Add another inch to the shin bastions and the proportions would match up quite to the existing model and art.

Hi everyone,

I made an Adeptus Titanicus list builder for Windows, called RosterMan (because it's a generic Roster Manager that can handle any point based war game system). Here is the link to the beta version:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1lrUFBWo_63FMWMBevanIBwobN5K1gp3u

Please give it a try and let me know what you think.

This thread is one of my go-to places when checking in on new stuff for Adeptus Titanicus, so I hope it's OK to post this here.

Hello, RobertDD.

I've just run my maniple and support through the program and all seems well.

Just two things at this time; Once created or loaded a battlegroup there doesn't seem to be a way to start a new battlegroup nor Household. The other thing is that "Exit" from the file menu isn't available.

This is something I was thinking of programming myself but I like your program very much. Is this an open source project per chance?

Your Tool is very cool!
I did a quick Maniple and it was very intuitive.
I'm using Battlescribe for all my other games, but the AT plugin doesn't work very well.
Yours is better.

@SamusDrake:
RosterMan is not open source, and it is not currently something I am considering. However, RosterMan IS a generic Roster Manager for any point based army game, and the source files for Adeptus Titanicus are 100% editable. I have exhaustive notes that I need to convert to documentation on how to utilize the power of the rules engine. If you are interested in doing that, then I can put making documentation higher on my list.

You CAN start a new household or group in a couple of ways.
1. Delete your household or battlegroup. In the empty list create a new HouseHold or Battlegroup and choose File-Save as to save as a new list.
2. Choose Edit-Add Top Level Item to add a household or group to the top level. Note that this creates a second list in your file, and everything will take longer to validate. I would generally advise a one file per list way of doing things.

@LocalHoRst
Thanks a ton for the kind words. Please make sure to share your experience and the download link!
Just out of curiosity, how is Battlescribe for something like 40K? Better? Because my main reason for making this was a frustration with how un-intuitive I found everything in Battlescribe. List building should be simple (building a list builder is hard, lol)