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 Azreal13 wrote:

 JamesY wrote:
For what it's worth, I sent that pic to a friend and former colleague of mine who paints for gw, and asked him if it was legit or bs. He said it wasn't a specific model he has seen, but it's the same armour as the ones he has.

This seems to have been overlooked.

Without going into details, I can confirm that JamesY has legitimate contacts and have first hand experience of that. If he's saying someone he knows says this looks like the new armour, then that's good enough for me.

Sounds good to me, no reason for me to doubt either of you based on your history on here. I'll be interested to see what these guys look like in a squad next to normal astartes.

Ben2 wrote:

CplPunishment wrote:
Hey, is that demo man from schaefer's last chancers? Maybe they're gonna return! Lol.

I think it's in there because of the face.

I suppose that's a possibility...
Bud it still seems like a rather unexpected comparison model, don't you think?

For some context, and because some people won't have seen it.



Looks a bit similar doesn't it? This was the Jes Goodwin concept for MKVIII Errant Armour.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
If this guy ends up being real, I'm going to have a laugh all of these strong proclamations of it being a fake.

I'd happily eat my words

Though the scale pic - why not compare to a modern Marine, rather than an obscure IG model for what. 15ish years ago?

Maybe that's what he owns?

It also jives with what Hastings said about it being two heads taller then a guardsmen. Perhaps this is the pic Hastings saw.

There is that - but if it was at the Private Event, why the pic from what looks like someone's workbench?

But hey, I think it's a good conversion - but I'm not entrenched in that opinion

Ben2 wrote:
For some context, and because some people won't have seen it.



Looks a bit similar doesn't it? This was the Jes Goodwin concept for MKVIII Errant Armour.

Never mind the concept art, we actually had metal MKVIII marines a long, long time ago!

Ben2 wrote:
For some context, and because some people won't have seen it.



Looks a bit similar doesn't it? This was the Jes Goodwin concept for MKVIII Errant Armour.

Which is what the Deathwatch are all wearing.

These guys are Mk X (no idea what happened to Mk IX) according to rumours.

Aren't the current Deathwatch marines in Errant MKVIII armor?

Edit: too slow!

CplPunishment wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

CplPunishment wrote:
Hey, is that demo man from schaefer's last chancers? Maybe they're gonna return! Lol.

I think it's in there because of the face.

I suppose that's a possibility...
Bud it still seems like a rather unexpected comparison model, don't you think?

At this moment, on my desk, I have a bundle of assembled Mierce stuff, some Kakophoni, some HiTech counts as Obliterators, some ordinary Emperor's Children and a couple of Guild Ball models.

Most reasonable explanation is it was to hand, and not read anything too much further.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
If this guy ends up being real, I'm going to have a laugh all of these strong proclamations of it being a fake.

I'd happily eat my words

Though the scale pic - why not compare to a modern Marine, rather than an obscure IG model for what. 15ish years ago?

Maybe that's what he owns?

It also jives with what Hastings said about it being two heads taller then a guardsmen. Perhaps this is the pic Hastings saw.

There is that - but if it was at the Private Event, why the pic from what looks like someone's workbench?

But hey, I think it's a good conversion - but I'm not entrenched in that opinion

Heck, who am I to assume what private event means from person to person. Private event could be testing out the new rules at someones hobby room over a few pints. Odds would be good he/she would have their workbench in their hobby room.

As a conversion I'd be impressed, as new Mark 9 or 10 Marine or, - Emporer forbid - silly nuMarine I'd be unexcited for it.


Mark 8 in the DW kit is already a bit too sleek for my taste. I like SM with thunder tighs and ridiculous lower legs with armour looking thick enough to bounce tank shells. That's why I like Tartaros lower legs for my true scale experiments. Stormcast do look kinda cool with their more form fitting armour and manly calves, but that's the opposite of what I want from SM.

Hero Banner picture on top... that marine and gun looks familiar...

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

 Azreal13 wrote:

CplPunishment wrote:

Ben2 wrote:

CplPunishment wrote:
Hey, is that demo man from schaefer's last chancers? Maybe they're gonna return! Lol.

I think it's in there because of the face.

I suppose that's a possibility...
Bud it still seems like a rather unexpected comparison model, don't you think?

At this moment, on my desk, I have a bundle of assembled Mierce stuff, some Kakophoni, some HiTech counts as Obliterators, some ordinary Emperor's Children and a couple of Guild Ball models.

Most reasonable explanation is it was to hand, and not read anything too much further.

^This, maybe I am getting long in the tooth but I have a ton of rando nostalgia sculpts among my hobby area from several editions and games. If it were my private event you may have gotten a pic of this guy next to Grom the Paunch

X078 wrote:
Hero Banner picture on top... that marine and gun looks familiar...

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

That link serves no purpose at all.

EDIT
Ah, you meant banner in the sense of web page, not in the sense of the thing apparently blacked out in the image.

Ben2 wrote:
For some context, and because some people won't have seen it.



Looks a bit similar doesn't it? This was the Jes Goodwin concept for MKVIII Errant Armour.

jes goodwin mk8



deathwacth armor


from miniwars


http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/03/super-marines-rumor.html

X078 wrote:
Hero Banner picture on top... that marine and gun looks familiar...

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

Nice spot.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
If this guy ends up being real, I'm going to have a laugh all of these strong proclamations of it being a fake.

I'd happily eat my words

Though the scale pic - why not compare to a modern Marine, rather than an obscure IG model for what. 15ish years ago?

Maybe that's what he owns?

It also jives with what Hastings said about it being two heads taller then a guardsmen. Perhaps this is the pic Hastings saw.

There is that - but if it was at the Private Event, why the pic from what looks like someone's workbench?

But hey, I think it's a good conversion - but I'm not entrenched in that opinion

Event in the studio.

Ben2 wrote:
Depends how they deal with it.

Nu-marines, if they are their own faction, could be Guilleman's special forces that have his complete confidence. Or if the rumour is true and all chapters are offered nu-marines and some say yes and some refuse, then you already have the start of a schism in the background.

Indeed, having these guys as a legit new force is something that the Imperium has not seen in a long time. How they interact with the existing human factions has a lot of potential for interesting background.

And at the risk of opening a huge can of worms. If the Nu-Marines are created whole cloth from new recruits with a new method and are not upgraded existing Astartes . Then GW will have removed the fluff inertia that is IMO(next to eww girls have cooties) the main barrier to mixed gender Marines.

X078 wrote:
Hero Banner picture on top... that marine and gun looks familiar...

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

That's a current Marine with a Grav gun.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

X078 wrote:
Hero Banner picture on top... that marine and gun looks familiar...

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

Nice spot.

We talking about this guy?

Ruin wrote:
These guys are Mk X (no idea what happened to Mk IX) according to rumours.

The only STC they had was stored on Windows 9.

X078 wrote:
Hero Banner picture on top... that marine and gun looks familiar...

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

http://i.imgur.com/y47jRGl.jpg

ups sorry accolade

Nah, thats a combi-grav.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

Ruin wrote:
These guys are Mk X (no idea what happened to Mk IX) according to rumours.

The only STC they had was stored on Windows 9.

Or Mk IX is a distinct armour type that will get filled in later.

Given we are up to three terminator armour types (all plastic), with another one appearing in forgeworld art (Saturnine), and Power Armour Mks 2-8 plus now 10 (with six of those in plastic - III, IV, VI, VII, VIII and X) I think it is very likely we will see two more Terminator armour marks (Saturnine in resin and a new mark developed from the Mk X in plastic) as well.

What IX will be is anyone's guess, let's not go down that rabbit hole.

 Theophony wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
I remain rather skeptical. We'll see. It feels too simple and unembellished for what GW seems to be going for lately.

Well if the rumors are true that RG hates what the imperium is about now, then maybe he says to everyone to stop wearing skulls and other frivolous things and carry more ammo. Your fighters not glam models.

As a rebuttal, see RG's own armor, which makes him look LIKE a glam model compared to the average astartes power armor.

Robot Guilleman did not design his own armour, and he can't take it off to fix it. Plus it barely has any skulls at all, just pointless curlicues in the trim.

 General Kroll wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
If this guy ends up being real, I'm going to have a laugh all of these strong proclamations of it being a fake.

I'm going to be laughing either way. The manner in which both sides are behaving in this argument is pretty entrenched. It's no essentially boiled down to the same posters screaming "ITS REAL!" "ITS FAKE!" at each other.

One side shows "proof" and the other side chooses to ignore it. Very Trumpian.

What proof has been shown? The guy who said it was clearly Stormcast legs, or the other posters who linked pictures to pieces it clearly wasn't ?

I'd love proof either way, but no one has provided anything that can be construed as proof. Unless I guess "proof" means whatever you want it to. Very Trumpian indeed.

Even more bizarrely he wasn't familiar with Stormcast legs either.

I'm pretty convinced it's real. If that's the sort of snap fits in the new starter it'll have great models. I just really want it to have great rules.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 JamesY wrote:
For what it's worth, I sent that pic to a friend and former colleague of mine who paints for gw, and asked him if it was legit or bs. He said it wasn't a specific model he has seen, but it's the same armour as the ones he has.

This seems to have been overlooked.

Without going into details, I can confirm that JamesY has legitimate contacts and have first hand experience of that. If he's saying someone he knows says this looks like the new armour, then that's good enough for me.


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 General Kroll wrote:


One side shows "proof" and the other side demonstrates very clearly, often with images, why that isn't the case.

I'm sure that's what you meant to say.

No, I said exactly what I meant to say.

There's been no proof either way. There have been plenty of photos "demonstrating" things, or comments refuting those photos. Fact is, no one can prove anything until we get confirmation from gw that this is either the real deal or not one of their products.


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 Starfarer wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
If this guy ends up being real, I'm going to have a laugh all of these strong proclamations of it being a fake.

I'm going to be laughing either way. The manner in which both sides are behaving in this argument is pretty entrenched. It's no essentially boiled down to the same posters screaming "ITS REAL!" "ITS FAKE!" at each other.

One side shows "proof" and the other side chooses to ignore it. Very Trumpian.

What proof has been shown? The guy who said it was clearly Stormcast legs, or the other posters who linked pictures to pieces it clearly wasn't ?

I'd love proof either way, but no one has provided anything that can be construed as proof. Unless I guess "proof" means whatever you want it to. Very Trumpian indeed.

Precisely my point. There has been no proof either way. Hence the inverted commas.

I wonder when they release these guys it will be along side the new edition and theres a significant time jump to boot.

 General Kroll wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 JamesY wrote:
For what it's worth, I sent that pic to a friend and former colleague of mine who paints for gw, and asked him if it was legit or bs. He said it wasn't a specific model he has seen, but it's the same armour as the ones he has.

This seems to have been overlooked.

Without going into details, I can confirm that JamesY has legitimate contacts and have first hand experience of that. If he's saying someone he knows says this looks like the new armour, then that's good enough for me.


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 General Kroll wrote:


One side shows "proof" and the other side demonstrates very clearly, often with images, why that isn't the case.

I'm sure that's what you meant to say.

No, I said exactly what I meant to say.

There's been no proof either way. There have been plenty of photos "demonstrating" things, or comments refuting those photos. Fact is, no one can prove anything until we get confirmation from gw that this is either the real deal or not one of their products.

You said the other side "ignores" the proof, but then acknowledge that there are comments "demonstrating" and "refuting" those same things.

How can there be refutation if one side is simply ignoring things? There has to be an exchange of views in order for anything to be refuted.



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Precisely my point. There has been no proof either way. Hence the inverted commas.

Unless the photo's real, then it's just proof and lengthy attempts to discredit it.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

 JamesY wrote:
For what it's worth, I sent that pic to a friend and former colleague of mine who paints for gw, and asked him if it was legit or bs. He said it wasn't a specific model he has seen, but it's the same armour as the ones he has.

This seems to have been overlooked.

Without going into details, I can confirm that JamesY has legitimate contacts and have first hand experience of that. If he's saying someone he knows says this looks like the new armour, then that's good enough for me.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 General Kroll wrote:


One side shows "proof" and the other side demonstrates very clearly, often with images, why that isn't the case.

I'm sure that's what you meant to say.

No, I said exactly what I meant to say.

There's been no proof either way. There have been plenty of photos "demonstrating" things, or comments refuting those photos. Fact is, no one can prove anything until we get confirmation from gw that this is either the real deal or not one of their products.

You said the other side "ignores" the proof, but then acknowledge that there are comments "demonstrating" and "refuting" those same things.

How can there be refutation if one side is simply ignoring things? There has to be an exchange of views in order for anything to be refuted.



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Precisely my point. There has been no proof either way. Hence the inverted commas.

Unless the photo's real, then it's just proof and lengthy attempts to discredit it.

Because in every single case I've seen, thus far, both sides have completely discounted the proof presented to them without demonstrating sufficiently why. Because neither side CAN. Effectively ignoring anything presented to them. People are seeing what they want to see.

Poster 1*Picture showing certain part from certain existing kit*
Poster 2 "Oh that's not such and such part."
Poster 1 "Oh yes it is"
Poster 2 *posts photo of the same part from a different angle with snarky comment about PROOF*
Poster 3 "I can see green stuff look here"
Poster 4 "No you can't"

It's like a bloody pantomime.

It's either a very well made truescale Marine or a very bland new type of Space Marine.

We won't know until we get something a bit more solid than a very grainy photo.