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123ply wrote:
I can't see it too well, but the wrist computer and left elbow look like the 30th anniversary marines. I also see a piece of the Watch Master's clavis I believe.

Vaguely similar. The 30th anniversary Marine has fluted elbow pads and the computer on the forearm is smaller and doesn't wrap around.

One thing that intrigues me about the "photo" is that the status bar is even present at all. To me it looks like someone has zoomed in on a photo they saw on a website then used the screenshot function of the device to "copy" the image before blocking out the banner. It sort of screams unfamiliarity with their device's photo editing capabilities….

You know....

It is possible that this is somewhere between conversion and 'leaked model'.

It could be a Studio member's 'proof of concept' type affair - a knocked up prototype, playing around with the scale etc.

But the blacked out bit and smol right arm (flat mate has suggested 3rd era Assault Marine bolt pistol arm?) that really prevent me accepting this is the real thing.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
One thing that intrigues me about the "photo" is that the status bar is even present at all. To me it looks like someone has zoomed in on a photo they saw on a website then used the screenshot function of the device to "copy" the image before blocking out the banner. It sort of screams unfamiliarity with their device's photo editing capabilities….

I don't subscribe to the theory it's a banner actually, I think it's something further in the background. Perhaps some sort of name tag or other obvious item which would indicate the person or location involved.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:
One thing that intrigues me about the "photo" is that the status bar is even present at all. To me it looks like someone has zoomed in on a photo they saw on a website then used the screenshot function of the device to "copy" the image before blocking out the banner. It sort of screams unfamiliarity with their device's photo editing capabilities….

I don't subscribe to the theory it's a banner actually, I think it's something further in the background. Perhaps some sort of name tag or other obvious item which would indicate the person or location involved.

See I didn't think it was a banner either. Not sure what I think it is, but I know my guts aren't telling me it's a banner

I think it looks quite legit. All the parts people have been linking pictures to don't look enough like this new marine. Ofcourse it will have a similar look though, it IS the same Imperium (or maybe Guillimans new Imperium, however the story goes from here on).

Regarding the plastic.. Think about it; this could be a picture that leaked from the design studio. They might use different materials and plastics for when they are designing and putting the test miniatures together. So it might be two entirely different plastics or other materials, but I don't think that proves anything really.

Depends on the stage of development.

I know they do most of the legwork in CAD, then add finer details to a rapid prototyped 'print'.

Now whether they use that exclusively, I've no idea,

14 pages of speculation. This very well could be from a new kit that was given to various staff to produce conversions to showcase in a White Dwarf at the same time as the release.
It could also be that the new kit features some multipart weapons (combi etc) to allow monopose to have a little more flexibility than in previous iterations.

Personally, I hope this is the direction they're going but until I see anything official, I'm considering this with a rather healthy amount of salt.

True enough. I like it though, and I hope it's real. When I first heard the rumour for these "new marines" I imagined super pimped out, bling-bling-gold-everywhere marines. This guy is very simplistic and clean.

I am however ready for it to be fake (or a conversion, whatever). No one should have their hopes up too high.

 Samsonov wrote:
So if this is a GW model and if it does not fit Hasting's notions, then could we be getting new marines AND truescale marines.

IIRC Hastings info comes from a 2nd hand description. Its also possible that these Nu-Marines have multiple armour variants depending on rank and battle field role.

He also said the description he got was a year old so......yeah.

At this point I am almost wish those Nu-Marines are a thing, because the current Marines certainly don't need yet another kit.

GW have posted more on FB about the upcoming reveals.

No confirmation on this pic, but they have clarified it's both 40k and AoS stuff they'll be revealing.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/12/big-news-coming-this-week/

Damage control inbound.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/12/big-news-coming-this-week/

Damage control inbound.

Big news coming this week…

Bigger marines confirmed?

I dunno.

As I said, the rumour doesn't prove the model, and disproving the model doesn't disprove the rumour.

Could be the rumour is spot on, but the model is someone's conversion.

Whichever way though. I've got the salt and pepper on hand in case I need to eat those delicious words!

Could mean some sneak peeks at something to do with 8th;

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/03/12/big-news-coming-this-week/

Someone posted the pic in their comments after someone said if it was marines 2.0 but I think it got deleted?

Why not just disprove it as a conversion there and then.

Weirdly, the thread of comments with the pic in from yesterday still has it, it the one from this particular story does appear to have been deleted.

 philbrad wrote:
There's rumours of devvies too. The basis of the multipart SM's are now approaching 20 years old even with various 'tart ups' on subsequent releases.

More I see this the more I think this is a new standard astartes., GW could be revamping the SM range in line with a 8th ed rollout. If they follow current patterns a core box of tacts/devs/jump packs could serve as a core for any future SM update.

They have revamped entire SM Power armour line over last couple of years. I really doubt they would be in such a hurry to replace those new & well received kits, when they have huge amounts of really old kits which really would need a new take.

14 pages (and I read them all) and still no one has been able to convincingly identify a single component used in the "conversion".

Yeah I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is 100% real.

The photo definitely has some macro-blocking artifacts, I'd say it's a zoomed-in screenshot of a video. Turning on video recording and finding just the right moment to scan past the miniature without anyone noticing seems like it would be the best way to snap a pic in a room full of people.

Backfire wrote:

 philbrad wrote:
There's rumours of devvies too. The basis of the multipart SM's are now approaching 20 years old even with various 'tart ups' on subsequent releases.

More I see this the more I think this is a new standard astartes., GW could be revamping the SM range in line with a 8th ed rollout. If they follow current patterns a core box of tacts/devs/jump packs could serve as a core for any future SM update.

They have revamped entire SM Power armour line over last couple of years. I really doubt they would be in such a hurry to replace those new & well received kits, when they have huge amounts of really old kits which really would need a new take.

They will if they think that's what'll generate the most cash.

Backfire wrote:

They have revamped entire SM Power armour line over last couple of years. I really doubt they would be in such a hurry to replace those new & well received kits, when they have huge amounts of really old kits which really would need a new take.

No, they have the perfect way to make more money
first just release a new scale marine, 1-2 units, and say that they are additional

people gonna get that new unit and some will get it to replace their old scale stuff (a cheap starter box for 8th will have amazing sells just because of cheap true scale to convert)
still selling the standard marines

slowly they add more and more units while the old stuff get no support and vanish until the whole line is replaced

For what its worth I think its a conversion, although I agree that it seems close but just off for the parts. This may be because of the picture quality, further modification or that its a genuinely new kit.

In any case - its very close to current products. Only the legs seem clearly different.

If I played marines I wouldn't rush out to replace them with models which are two mm taller. Then again I don't get this obsession with true scale Marines which seems to have haunted the hobby for over two decades.

Blargh. I just want to know ASAP whether these new marines are a new unit available to all chapters or their own separate thing. I've been agonising over marine colour schemes in case I need a new one for these chaps...

Ugh, this just looks like more bloat for 40k. The game really doesn't need a new faction, especially not another Imperial (and even Space Marine) faction. If it's just a new elite Space Marine squad type to celebrate a new edition, that's fine, but somehow I feel like we're just going to get another Imperial faction with complex rules that will be broken with Allies.

I'd love to be proven wrong but all the latest 40k stuff has made me just shake my head.

What I'm most worried about is having to replace every single SM I own. Knowing GW it will probably be something like
-You can still use the old models
Whole range of SM soldiers discontinued and replaced with new uber marines.

So what is going to happen then?
New kits for Tactical, Assault, Devastator, Sternguard, Vanguard etc etc etc.

If Matt Ward has anything to do with this only Ultramarines will be able to use these new marines.

SM is already the least valuable models on the aftermarket and if they introduce new larger ones I can see the price of them plummet even more as people scramble to sell their models.
Will be like a stock exchange crash.... Brand New in Box models are hard to sell even at 50% off (I've been selling things for years and even at 50% off GW products are hard to sell on trade sites). Selling for more than 75-90% off will be hard once new ubermench are announced.

Yeah, I heard Matt Ward is hiding in your closet and licks your face while you sleep.

Joyboozer wrote:
Yeah, I heard Matt Ward is hiding in your closet and licks your face while you sleep.

Think of the savings on soap.

Joyboozer wrote:
Yeah, I heard Matt Ward is hiding in your closet and licks your face while you sleep.

Part of that sentence is true.