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 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bit of GS made flat, few pinpricks in front: done. Simple conversion.

I am thinking I will just get some Tempestus Scion heads instead. Much easier to pull off and still look really awesome.

Oh, they are in the box. It's a scout head in the box, just like here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marine-Scouts-with-Sniper-Rifles and the goggles are an extra bit.

 VeteranNoob wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bit of GS made flat, few pinpricks in front: done. Simple conversion.

I am thinking I will just get some Tempestus Scion heads instead. Much easier to pull off and still look really awesome.

Oh, they are in the box. It's a scout head in the box, just like here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marine-Scouts-with-Sniper-Rifles and the goggles are an extra bit.

That box does not include the rebreather that everyone is looking at.

That is the Scout Bikers, which include several different heads in the kit. Darren Latham added the goggles from the Scouts with Sniper Rifles.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 VeteranNoob wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bit of GS made flat, few pinpricks in front: done. Simple conversion.

I am thinking I will just get some Tempestus Scion heads instead. Much easier to pull off and still look really awesome.

Oh, they are in the box. It's a scout head in the box, just like here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marine-Scouts-with-Sniper-Rifles and the goggles are an extra bit.

That box does not include the rebreather that everyone is looking at.

That is the Scout Bikers, which include several different heads in the kit. Darren Latham added the goggles from the Scouts with Sniper Rifles.

If I was better at sculpting, I would use the regular marine rebreathers and attach the goggles on them. Especially since I will be putting these Scouts with my Blood Angels (I have some mop-hair rebreathers heads from various kits). I mostly just don't want the jarhead bits.

Have the rules for Guardsmen popped up yet? I'd be curious to see what they can take.

The biker rebreather looks totally different.

 Barzam wrote:
Have the rules for Guardsmen popped up yet? I'd be curious to see what they can take.

I have seen the rules for everyone BUT Guardsmen. Hopefully soon.

 squall018 wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
Have the rules for Guardsmen popped up yet? I'd be curious to see what they can take.

I have seen the rules for everyone BUT Guardsmen. Hopefully soon.

NVM: Found my answer

La Voz de Horus (spanish site) has posted base, Tau, and Eldar rules for Shadow War (pics on english):

Base: http://www.lavozdehorus.com/reglas-completas-de-shadow-war-armageddon/

Tau: http://www.lavozdehorus.com/reglas-tau-shadow-war-armageddon/

Eldar: http://www.lavozdehorus.com/reglas-eldar-shadow-war-armageddon/

Dark Eldar: http://www.lavozdehorus.com/reglas-eldar-oscuros/

May not be as cool as the new plastic terrain, but I just stumbled across a Kickstarter offering some nice Not-Necromunda MDF terrain:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1470715003/industrial-bulkhead-terrain-for-28mm-wargaming?ref=category_newest

Was thinking about who people were saying they were disappointed with the gantry hights..

I am actaulyl for them to be 6" tall.. having played A lot of necromunda it gets very very annoying working with a lot of platforms and gantrys only 3" high and trying to find the one duder you know is below all of that somewhere... and then getting your hand in to actually move it

So, no Sisters got confirmed. Sucks. GW keeps neglecting them.

Those Eldar sheets reminded me how silly/stupid it is that Eldar Guardians received BS/WS of 4 (much like Scouts). What a useless bit of tosh.

oh yeah, no rebreathers in there. Well, room for customization. Plenty more that's not in the starter set. And this new WD has skitarii rules...

 Barzam wrote:
Have the rules for Guardsmen popped up yet? I'd be curious to see what they can take.

I've seen a bit of them, basically they can take anything that the guard vets from the regular game can take, also I think they're one of the few armies that can viably field the 10 model maximum. Looking at their squad special rules and stuff though I'm still highly suspicious that they'll be an even match for the other, more elite armies.

For example taking a full 10 man squad is decently less than 600 points out of a 1000 point cap, so you'll probably end up loading your guys up with superfluous gear just because you have points left over, whereas your opponent can tailor specific models to task and shave off points. Their command ability is to have their leader instead of shooting, issue a command, which allows all models, maybe just all models with lasguns, reroll 1s to hit when they fire.

Still I'm excited, 4/5 games my guard will play jobbers for the space marines and eldar, and that last 20% will be the glorious last stand against the Tyranid menace where we do indeed take off and nuke the site from orbit.

 VeteranNoob wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bit of GS made flat, few pinpricks in front: done. Simple conversion.

I am thinking I will just get some Tempestus Scion heads instead. Much easier to pull off and still look really awesome.

Oh, they are in the box. It's a scout head in the box, just like here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marine-Scouts-with-Sniper-Rifles and the goggles are an extra bit.

I did not know the scout box had a goggle bit! DOH!

 gainsay wrote:

 VeteranNoob wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Bit of GS made flat, few pinpricks in front: done. Simple conversion.

I am thinking I will just get some Tempestus Scion heads instead. Much easier to pull off and still look really awesome.

Oh, they are in the box. It's a scout head in the box, just like here: https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Space-Marine-Scouts-with-Sniper-Rifles and the goggles are an extra bit.

I did not know the scout box had a goggle bit! DOH!

heh, I didn't either until I saw this box.

So I've heard I.G get homeworld subfactions just like SM chapters and Ork clans, confirmed ones are: Cadians, Catachans and Mordians.
First rules support for a non plastic kit?

Huh that'd pretty cool, I wonder if this will extend to chaos as well. Come to think of it, if CSM are standard troops and not agents wouldn't they be over-powered?

Probably not. They're most likely to be expensive and outnumbered by other warbands.

Chaos get marks instead.
Base Chaos SM is 120 points, seems really cheap.

Welp since we've been playing a lot of small games at my club I can hopefully convince some people to start playing Shadow Wars.

I'd love to make heavily converted warbands (starting with Chaos of course, then maybe Orks after that).

So I've seen the rules at my FLGS and I can share some more things. It's fragmented info since I was busy setting up a Malifaux game and I was only mainly interested in IG.

CSM do get marks, even an undivided mark. Forgot the bonuses but they are fairly obvious. While the base CSM troop seems cheap, the leader is roughly 200 iirc so it's good to take some cultists.

Tyranid Warriors was the surprising kill team. 3-5 models only. Tyranid Alpha, regular Warrior, newborn Warrior essentially, and Tyranid gun-beast. Didn't see operatives yet.

Continuing with 3-5 kill teams, there's​ the Grey Knights. They only had 3 options available instead of 4 for obvious reasons. Can't remember right now what they were.

Since Eldar rules have been posted already, I'll only point out that the artillery is hilarious. A friend figured out that the model using it could hide behind cover and still fire the weapon without exposing themselves. Since the shot comes from the gun. Have to confirm it myself.

AM vet team doesn't get homeworld options. And with only 10 models max, it is an odd duck out. But they can buy carapace and hotshot lasguns so they can be surprisingly effective.

Harlequins have a kill team, their flip belts allow them to ignore fall damage. Start charging from tall buildings people.

I know someone mentioned it, but it was asked again. Spec operatives are hired on a per game basis. You use promethium caches to hire them, at the cost of one per. You can hire as many as you want in any combination, though I think some have limits.

I'm tired so I can't remember the other stuff I found. It looks good so far but like any GW game there are some glaring issues. Who knows how it'll shake out. I'm going to be playing a lot of games Sunday so I'll post my thoughts if anybody wants to hear them.

Edit: forgot to add Necrons. I couldn't read much but they did have a chosen Immortal as a leader.

For everyone talking about those scout conversions, you could possibly use the CCS rebreathers. Should fit scout heads okay, I think 5 come with the kit if you know anyone that has guard and didn't use them.




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Obviously just clip off the hose bit if you don't want that, that's what I did for some of my flamer models.

Thanks for the IG info.

Are they counting the Tempestus Scions as IG, or separate? Or do they even have a listing yet? I don't know if it's been answered yet, but are players allowed to mix armies? Like having some IG with a Space Marine or two?

It's sounding like I'm going to have to actually start assembling and painting my Anvil figures though.

Many thanks for the Guard info!!

Scions are special operatives, but if veterans can be given both carapace armour AND Hellguns, this means that you can still field a squad of Scions without jumping through hoops, nice! Especially if the veterans have BS4 as standard.

Looks like I won't be playing scouts after all then.

 Dravis wrote:
So I've heard I.G get homeworld subfactions just like SM chapters and Ork clans, confirmed ones are: Cadians, Catachans and Mordians.
First rules support for a non plastic kit?

Where'd you here this?

Maybe there's a new plastic kit coming. I'm sort of ok with Mordians.

Or you could read on a bit and see that this isn't the case for Guard.

That was from the Bolter and chainsword thread, mistaken info I suppose.
Good news about the carapace armour and hellguns though.

Bad news gang in the WD they're saying shadow wars will be $150.

The rumored 130 US$ was not to be trusted, the euro price is 120 EUR according to WD, which is much more than 130 dollar :-(

Shadow War is a bit cheaper than the Calth/Prospero boxed sets though