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My favourite Necromunda missions were the Outlanders ones (like The Hit, wow that was an awesome scenario) and also the shoot-out. I guess they are all the ones not in SW:A though! I would recommend anyone to check them out for extra scenarios. After that, Age of Sigmar battleplans would be easy to adapt as they are all objective based at their core.

Nice table, but its full of death corridors. It need a good bunch of crates, barrels, etc... for cover and block LOS. Thats something you learn on Infinity. No miniature should have vision of the enemy deploy zone from their own deploiment zone.

str00dles1 wrote:
Yea, someone in the necro facebook posted his table (that table above). He stated it was quite expensive. but, looks cool?

You could do that with Mantic's scenery for a lot less, they have a similar shaped landing pad set I think.

NoggintheNog wrote:

str00dles1 wrote:
Yea, someone in the necro facebook posted his table (that table above). He stated it was quite expensive. but, looks cool?

You could do that with Mantic's scenery for a lot less, they have a similar shaped landing pad set I think.

Yep. They do. And industrial zones, ruins, pipes, fans etc.
Unfortunately for many here they don't come with a GW logo.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

NoggintheNog wrote:

str00dles1 wrote:
Yea, someone in the necro facebook posted his table (that table above). He stated it was quite expensive. but, looks cool?

You could do that with Mantic's scenery for a lot less, they have a similar shaped landing pad set I think.

Yep. They do. And industrial zones, ruins, pipes, fans etc.
Unfortunately for many here they don't come with a GW logo.

I dont know... many people are content with scratchbuilt stuff, or even cardboard boxes. People tend to be a lot more forgiving about terrain than miniatures, I find.

Or some just think the terrain put out by Mantic is utter gak?

Mantics Scenery is better than the standard GW one

 Tyr13 wrote:


I dont know... many people are content with scratchbuilt stuff, or even cardboard boxes. People tend to be a lot more forgiving about terrain than miniatures, I find.

True, but a lot people still believe that GW is the only one producing hard plastic scenery

 BrookM wrote:
Or some just think the terrain put out by Mantic is utter gak?

Yep. Why I don't use mine anymore and sold what I could. Terrible decision to make it "modular" with those very unsightly clips. I use their accessory packs (crates, pipes, random machinery) but would never buy anymore of the actual buildings. Love the GW industrial terrain though, goes together seamlessly (literally) and looks great.

 BrookM wrote:
Or some just think the terrain put out by Mantic is utter gak?

I wouldn't go that far, but it isn't great. My FLGS has the Deadzone upgrade set and I have considered getting it. But it would not fit the aesthetic of my table.

 BrookM wrote:
Or some just think the terrain put out by Mantic is utter gak?

Not enough skulls?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Or some just think the terrain put out by Mantic is utter gak?

Not enough skulls?

At least half the tile needs to be encrusted in it for me to even consider it.

Any word on a price for the rule book? Hopefully it will be in line with the General's Handbook for AOS...

Mantic terrain is only a minor step above laser cut MDF. The clips, the cheap looking design, and poor industrial theme are just awful.
If you would have said old Pegasus hobby gothic terrain maybe, if you would have said the old battlefield in a box resin gothic terrain I'd agree, if you would have said old forge world resin ruined buildings and factory then we would have been going somewhere. Not all gw terrain is great however the sector mechaniicus and cities of death terrain are phenomenal. Both of them only limitation is your imagination and depending how many sets you want to purchase. Just look at Warhammer world and see how much gw own design team can do using the same cities of death terrain over and over.

The mantic terrain has it's plus sides (it's cheap, I've got a giant box of it I've never touched) but I will still be mixing in GW terrain, some Kromlech junk scatter terrain, some Tamiya 1/35 scale sandbags and some Antenociti and mdf stuff.

It's very blocky and you do need to fill in all the clip holes. A table with a lot of it on will look very samey.

In SWA you want to use a lot of terrain, so mix it up. I've just painted up the Honoured Imperialis set (statue, giant broken Aquila) and it paints up very nicely. Next up will be objective markers for my games, and then the stuff in the SWA box, then some Mantic, then I'll order some Kromlech.

I'd probably get Mantic's pipes. The GW ones are way too expensive and have too many broken sections. Not sure how "grimdark" your pipes of all things need to be, either.

That table does look good, but I don't even wanna know how much it would cost to build. That's the bad thing, GW's terrain is so god-damned expensive that seeing cool stuff like that, at least for me anyway, is the opposite of inspiring. Maybe if GW's terrain kits cost at least half of what they currently do, or we got more sprues in them, it might be reasonably attainable. As it is you'll probably never see anything like that outside of a GW store or a rich friend's house.

Plastic PVP piping, cut to 6 inch lengths, added with love of scrap and model pieces, are just fine.
You can even add in a couple of those extra pipe caps, and bits from the terrain kit, and its just as good, if not better. This game works excellent with full tables, or your going to end up in a Overwatch stalemate, sitting there back and fourth-ing to see who wants to blink.

The new kits are pretty adaptable to cardstock, and foam board, as well. I can easily see some of the possibilities, even adding in parts from the Cities of Death kits, from a few years back to build up those smaller area fillers that seem to be lacking.

Myself, I am in the middle of a gak load of ork terrain to fill in along with the Armageddon setting. Mixed in, it is going to be pretty cool with your ideas of the piping, interspaced and having one of those pumping station builds with pipes going all around the table.

That table is very nice. Excellent use of the landing pads, but that along makes the construction of the table prohibitively expensive. I probably have enough spare CoD stuff laying around to build the rest, and the use of the ladders to make walkway borders is inspired, but yeah, that's a really cool table.

I also have the legs from two Landing Pads spare to make some very long walkways that still have support. Might be time to break them out.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
That table is very nice. Excellent use of the landing pads, but that along makes the construction of the table prohibitively expensive. I probably have enough spare CoD stuff laying around to build the rest, and the use of the ladders to make walkway borders is inspired, but yeah, that's a really cool table.

I also have the legs from two Landing Pads spare to make some very long walkways that still have support. Might be time to break them out.

It is a nice table, but I feel like the builder should have clipped the parts where you hook the folding walls on the landing pad from between the edges
It looks kind of tacky with them still on, in my eyes.

Well, had a go at the SWA terrain.
I took a picture but it seems to be the same as those used for the Sasquatch but I think you get the gist:

I got 3 of my 1' x 1' tiles together, the far left is actually glued and the two to the right are just placed for "proof of concept".
The two ends have 3 join points so you can rotate them for variety (made sure the tiles line-up).
I was worried that I would be short on the supports but many parts are the correct height (4 3/4" exactly).
I made use of that for the two-tier piece on the left.
I added some "Evergreen" polystyrene "i-beam" to support the platform better: the way I did it does not have much material to hold it, next time use filler!
Note: 1/2" tubing fits their bulkheads perfectly, see the white tube on the left with the melta trooper hiding behind it: added nice cover AND rigidity.
I think I can draw out another 2 maybe 3 at least platform tiles (double stack platforms may be a tall order with THIS kit..
Then I will see what I can do with the Minitorium Armored Containers (I really want to make a gantry crane with walkway on a tile with them)..
Behind the middle tile is another black primed city of death manufactorum ruin that might get use with SWA.
I try to get two ladder up at different ends of the tile.
I still have to add the various hoses and hooks, I added a few to "get the vision".
I will see if I can take a few pictures rotating these tiles and with better quality.
I think I am happy with the config and will glue the other guys together, I think I will countersink underneath, pilot hole and screw the feet to ensure a strong join.
Something I MUST remember is when I prime I have to paint the underside as well or my nice flat tiles will bow if exposed to moisture.
Turns out if I cut my tiles in half I can include gluing down the old vinyl coil of road GW put out a long time ago.

So, any good ideas on getting this kit together and getting different linking tiles?
Looks like it IS designed for 1 foot lengths so it has not been too difficult.
I had to give some good thought on how to get built-in sight line blockers with no straight "paths of death", I think I succeeded.
I have intentionally added a couple gaps where people would be very tempted to jump them.

Anyway, the kit goes together nice, cleans up well and gives a ton of options so I am happy.
I will have a few odds and sods of bits that I might be able to include with some of my old Necromunda terrain I would like to get to all polystyrene.

Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Magnavent is sold out in the US already. Go figure.

 Talizvar wrote:
I added some "Evergreen" polystyrene "i-beam" to support the platform better: the way I did it does not have much material to hold it, next time use filler!

I found that if you put the supports and connectors strategically, everything attaches very solidly and stands together just fine. But using I-beams as decoration certainly sounds like a good idea.

 Talizvar wrote:
Well, had a go at the SWA terrain.

How many sets is that?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:
Well, had a go at the SWA terrain.

How many sets is that?

Looks like two sets worth of walkways and supports, but I only see one furnace and stack (the large half-sphere). We could be looking at a SWA plus a Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Magnavent.

gungo wrote:

If you would have said old Pegasus hobby gothic terrain maybe, if you would have said the old battlefield in a box resin gothic terrain I'd agree, if you would have said old forge world resin ruined buildings and factory then we would have been going somewhere.

and none of them is really suitable for Necromunda, same for the standard GW stuff
Mantic Scenery is just old Necromunda stuff in plastic, same design and same problems if you keep it modular

It looks like it should be pretty easy to fix big builds of the official SWA terrain onto 30cm x 30cm MDF tiles, and keep walkways separate to connect it up.

The diagonal-edged walkways intended to top the big cylinders are exactly 12cm across. So if you put them in the centre of your 30x30 tile, you have 9cm on each side till you hit the edge.

The short walkway pieces are 6cm, and the long ones 12cm, so join one of each and you have 18cm -- exactly right to go from the centrepiece element on one tile to the centrepiece element on the next. I've not tested all this out yet, mind -- it's possible that when you put it together it will all end up slightly too big, though shaving sections off should sort that out.

Wow! That table is a thing of beauty!

All these modular tables need is some homemade scatter terrain to break up the fire lanes and make each game different. Otherwise, just bring two Heavy Stubbers, park them, autowin.

 kodos wrote:

gungo wrote:

If you would have said old Pegasus hobby gothic terrain maybe, if you would have said the old battlefield in a box resin gothic terrain I'd agree, if you would have said old forge world resin ruined buildings and factory then we would have been going somewhere.

and none of them is really suitable for Necromunda, same for the standard GW stuff
Mantic Scenery is just old Necromunda stuff in plastic, same design and same problems if you keep it modular

subjective quotes got to love them
Next time quote the entire post where I talk about the modularity of cities of death and sector mechanicus which ARE good for necromunda.
Mantic scenery is just old cheap looking stuff with to many clips.

 Talizvar wrote:
Well, had a go at the SWA terrain.

Great job there.

I think gluing your terrain to the table is a really bad idea - one of those things that looks good on paper but doesn't hold up with execution.

The massive benefit to this new terrain is that you can move it around and rearrange it in all sorts of interesting, seemingly random configurations. The moment you glue it to a board, you limit your build to right angles and suddenly the table becomes very linear. Gaps are predictable and things become stale, quickly.

Take it from a Necromunda player, build two and three story "buildings" and then lots and lots of bridges & "throw" terrain for blocking LoS. You'll be much happier in the long run.

For folks looking for terrain inspiration, I'm going to toot my own horn a bit and show one of my necromunda layouts.
https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2015/07/06/necromunda-campaign-lower-wacker-hive-2/
This is the kind of dense setup I would want to do for Shadow War.

This is two necromunda games side-by-side

The main improvement I've been making is that since these games were played I've built more walkways and walkway supports.

 TheWaspinator wrote:
One thing I'd like to see is some biker lists for this game. Seems like it would be a nice way to add some variety without escalating the scale too much. Jetbikes might be too much, though, depends on what they do with the stats.

I like the sound of biker lists, but I think practically speaking they would be tough to do right. Assuming Armageddon is a multi-level based game, would bikers be stuck on the ground level? Assuming they are or that troops can get off their bikes, being able to move too quickly could give an extremely unfair advantage in a game with objective siezing and a very small table.

Truthfully, I'm a bit wary anytime lists stray too much away from basic troopers. I've already heard that custodes are neigh unstoppable. Not sure why they were even included in the game.

 Mymearan wrote:


Yep. Why I don't use mine anymore and sold what I could. Terrible decision to make it "modular" with those very unsightly clips. I use their accessory packs (crates, pipes, random machinery) but would never buy anymore of the actual buildings. Love the GW industrial terrain though, goes together seamlessly (literally) and looks great.

It's all about how you use it. I've not built anything from Mantic terrain directly, but I've used it alot in greebling up other sets. Mantic is middle of the road. Great for Necromunda style terrain, but doesn't look as nice as GW. I've seen Mantic terrain look quite good when used to make medium-sized structures that are glued to gether and painted well.

The thing about GW is that no other modular terrain system looks as good when scaled up. It's essentially the sci-fi vesion of the Walthers buildng panels that railoaders use to make big industrial buildings for their layouts. Unfortunately GW terrain is ridiculously expensive in the quantity needed for a dense multi-tiered layout that Shadow War or Necromunda really need. It's really important to build your GW terrain in separate "modular" units that can be repositioned at will. Otherwise you end up with a very expensive terrain set with only a few uses.