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 Charistoph wrote:
You're surprised that futbol would be used for conflict resolution when a Rasalhague World was defended and won by American football?

They go into that a little more in-depth in Dominions Divided about how after the transition to the Rasalhague Dominion they have "friendly matches" and "historical rematches" on the gridiron where the warrior caste amateurs always thrash the professional civilian players.

Albertorius wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:
You're surprised that futbol would be used for conflict resolution when a Rasalhague World was defended and won by American football?

To me that's just extending the trend.

Well, seeing as I was not privy to that particular incident... kinda? xD

Well, now you know something new.

Albertorius wrote:But that's not what it's saying, is mostly sayng that they had an interplanetary fútbol league: that it was one of the kinds of conflict they engaged in, not that it was used for conflict resolution.

It's just kind of hilarious that they deemed that important enough to add it: if it merits mentioning here and basically nowhere else (hey, they have sport tournaments!) it surely must follow that it's not an usual thing in the Btech universe... or they play fútbol with mechs .

In the 2nd Blood of Kerensky book (or was it the 3rd?) Phelan Wolf played lacrosse as part of an inter-house sport. So, still not surprising considering the culture the Scorpions ran in to.

Albertorius wrote:Also, it's "fútbol", with a stress on the "u"

I don't have that key on my keyboard, used the spelling you quoted, and you should be grateful I didn't just say soccer because I'm a heathen.

Ghaz wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:
You're surprised that futbol would be used for conflict resolution when a Rasalhague World was defended and won by American football?

They go into that a little more in-depth in Dominions Divided about how after the transition to the Rasalhague Dominion they have "friendly matches" and "historical rematches" on the gridiron where the warrior caste amateurs always thrash the professional civilian players.

Still not surprising considering that Phelan played lacrosse as part of an inter-house competition in Blood of Kerensky. From what it sounded like, many of those Old Terran sports were kept up among the Clans, and considering it's obviously a region that has a heavy Iberian influence, having an interplanetary soccer league would be about as surprising as Van Zandt having a back woods American influence.

 Charistoph wrote:
Still not surprising considering that Phelan played lacrosse as part of an inter-house competition in Blood of Kerensky. From what it sounded like, many of those Old Terran sports were kept up among the Clans, and considering it's obviously a region that has a heavy Iberian influence, having an interplanetary soccer league would be about as surprising as Van Zandt having a back woods American influence.

There's "heavy Iberian influence" and there's "repeat history word for word" ^^. This is the second.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:
Still not surprising considering that Phelan played lacrosse as part of an inter-house competition in Blood of Kerensky. From what it sounded like, many of those Old Terran sports were kept up among the Clans, and considering it's obviously a region that has a heavy Iberian influence, having an interplanetary soccer league would be about as surprising as Van Zandt having a back woods American influence.

There's "heavy Iberian influence" and there's "repeat history word for word" ^^. This is the second.

Not quite, but still, those who are not aware of history are doomed to repeat it, or at least, help it rhyme.

 Charistoph wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:
Still not surprising considering that Phelan played lacrosse as part of an inter-house competition in Blood of Kerensky. From what it sounded like, many of those Old Terran sports were kept up among the Clans, and considering it's obviously a region that has a heavy Iberian influence, having an interplanetary soccer league would be about as surprising as Van Zandt having a back woods American influence.

There's "heavy Iberian influence" and there's "repeat history word for word" ^^. This is the second.

Not quite, but still, those who are not aware of history are doomed to repeat it, or at least, help it rhyme.

It doesn't just rhyme, it's the iberian peninsula moor invasion right down to the planet names, stopping in the same place, and the Reconquista also going down the same, with even the centuries of cohabitation and mingling.

It is hilarious because they have basically opened a history book, paraphrased it, added the words "planet" and "battlemech", changed the names of the kings and basically called it a day.

I dont't think they have been quite so blatant anywhere else, not even in the Marian Hegemony.

Close game tonight- 2nd swords and 2nd deiron regulars team up against the clans-

2nd swords
.nightstar
.warhammer
.guillotine
.dragon

2nd deiron
.maelstrom
.black hawk KU
.wolverine
.raijin

Clans-
.annihilator
.dire wolf
.X2 timber wolf
.mad dog


We got real lucky the first few turns as his command mech (annihilator) could not hit the broad side of a barn.

We started by trading his vulture for the dragon. MVP for me force went to the raijin who lived far longer than he should have (and scored the 2 kills for the IS side) by the end of the game it was the warhammer facing off against a badly mauled madcat and daishi both of which had multiple pilot hits and head damage. the annihilator was still there sort of but with 5 pilot hits he needed 11s to wake up again. so basically out of the fight.

Narrow victory for the clans.

I take it it was an Annihilator C, or C2?

Shame that it was asleep for the end.

It was actually the 5W with quad gauss.

 Albertorius wrote:


and thinking that the castilian would call the invaders "umayyad" instead of "moors" if they were from spaniard descend

Moros

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And they're pretty much all gone now, replaced by the Scorpion Empire.

Just going to gloss over "Escorpión Imperio" (which is itself nonsense gibberish in spanish, and you can tell something that a gringo came up with)?

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:


and thinking that the castilian would call the invaders "umayyad" instead of "moors" if they were from spaniard descend

Moros

Well, I was going for the english spelling, as with umayyad (omeya) ^_^.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Just going to gloss over "Escorpión Imperio" (which is itself nonsense gibberish in spanish, and you can tell something that a gringo came up with)?

Also not a thing anymore... so what's your point?

in a conversation about cringe mistranslations, etc it kinda deserves mention

For starters in Spanish it should be Imperio Escorpión that sounds cringy still but at least it's on the correct order

M.

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The new Pillager and Shogun both seem nasty!

Never been a fan of TSM, if I'm being honest.

And the new Javelin... with a TAG?

Ok. It's fast though!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Never been a fan of TSM, if I'm being honest.

A very situational system, that's for sure, but great for units where running hot is an easy task, and even better if they are carrying a Physical Weapon.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
And the new Javelin... with a TAG?

Ok. It's fast though!

Considering where Javelins normally engage, having a TAG actually makes some sense. And good thing it's fast, as again, where they normally engage.

In a way, Tag and those big SRM bays is almost like having a can opener and crit seeker- laser guided Arrow IV to pop the armor, and then feast on the delicious center.

I'm delighted with the weirdness of the Behemoth (Liao). We made a massive assault tank and gave it.... rocket launchers.

Rocket launchers is one of the weapons that baffles me. From a tactical point of view it fits very well into a cheap strike and fade unit but that seems to be the exception rather than the norm in the TROs with many mechs, and vehicles expected to fight with secondary weapons after their rockets go off on turn 1.

M.

2 silly games tonight-

Game 1

Clan V Clan lights and mediums

My side-
.Crimson langur prime
.adder A
.fire falcon
.jackalope
.demon tick proto mechs

The other side

.nova
.adderA
.fire moth
.pouncer
.grendel

Turns out the fire moth can't take 2 clan er smalls to the center torso rear......and i missed with absolutely everything else from 4 other proto's and 2 mechs....but all the crits (3) forced him to retire. The grendel missed a buch of shots he should have made....in all i lost the fire falcon, but that's to be expected for a 20 ton mech. unfortunely the other side lost 4 mechs and surrendered the field.








Game 2 the big boys came out to play

My side-
.Omega
.tenshi
.hatamoto suna
.hitosune kozo

The other side
.poseidon tri-pod
.Ares/zeus
.clan specs banshee

. we did a good trade....for me at least. he got a floating gyro crit on the hitosune without doing much damage against it's hardened armor. i returned the flavor by putting my single gauss shot into the poseidons face and following it up with a single LBX 10 pellet to finish off the head. . the omega lost most of his left torso armor and was internal on the center. the banshee overheated and shut down (and fell). so the hades decide to leave before the 2 remaining assault mechs ganged up on him. he likely would have killed the omega, but have gotten killed in return.

Never used a super-heavy and/or tripod before.

What are they like?

Couple interesting things-they are size 3 so they tower over most terrain. they get a -1 to pilot standing checks and have 3 pilots (gunner/pilot/engineer) so you have to roll checks for each for pilot hits. if you lose the gunner for example the pilot has to take over 2 jobs and so on. whichever seat you take over the new occupant takes a +2 penalties for doing the non assigned jobs.

the legs are a bit weird as far as hit locations go. if you hit legs on the normal leg chart you have to roll a D3 from the front and a D3 +/- 1 depending on which side you are facing (making it less likely to hit the far leg on 6+).

The 3 legs also allows them to chose a direction and go that way, once they are going in a direction they spend an extra movement point and pick any direction they choose to change to. we will be doing it again in the future so you can look forward to more big boys.

Does the Omega get anything special for being giant?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Does the Omega get anything special for being giant?

Full Superheavy rules are now in TacOps: Alternate Eras. The Omega's basically just big (3 high) and slow (2/3 at 150t I guess isn't that bad) with some edge case interactions having modifiers for being superheavy. It's got a normal human pilot so it doesn't have any weirdness like a WoB Celestial or the extra rules for being a tripod like the Ares.

It has 3 crew-pilot who control movement, gunner obviously and an engineer to keep it working. loosing one of the crew causes penalties as the other crew have to fill in.

Also yes it is big, slow and stable.

We did think that since it is so tall melee attacks by other non super heavies would only hit legs...but that's our house rule.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Does the Omega get anything special for being giant?

Aside from what has been mentioned already, Super-Heavies handle Crit locations a bit differently. Basically, you half and then round up. So a Clan DHS will take 1 Slot, while and IS DHS will take 2. However, if you have 2 1-Crit items going in to the same Location (say, 2 Medium Lasers), they can both be in the same Slot, however a Crit Hit there will kill both of them. This lends the Super-Heavies to being able to field normal Artillery guns instead of Cannons, as a Long Tom is "only" 15 Crits for them.

Oh that's cool.

Hope that gets added into Solaris Skunk Werks one day.

Yeah, no time on that as SSW is a one-person gig at the moment from what I've heard.

MegaMekLab has them, but saving the file gets a bit wonky as it can't believe the size of some of the things in its file check.

That applies to both Super-Heavies and Tripods, by the way.

The Tripods also have a printer error in the "Safe" version where the reference table doesn't quite do the whole "roll @#$ for leg" very well. I think it's been solved in the more up to date 0.49.11, though.

A review of the Hansen's Roughriders Force Pack:



My copy will be arriving in the mail later today

EDIT: He's got a review of the Eridani Light Horse Force Pack as well:

Seems some stockist are getting these despite their exclusivity. Fortress is getting all of them, so once they have them I might do an order.