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I just want my Imperial Guard doctrines back, or auxiliary grenade launchers, or dedicated drop troops list in normal 40k. Anything that gives me more variety as a guard player.

Failing that, just give me an enjoyable rule system that is fair and relatively balanced, because I'm fed up with 7th and I've played like two games of it.

 auticus wrote:
The removal of hard counters by making everything viable.

Ask the Executioners in AoS. They fit very well into the game. 10 men, 200 pts, and two mortal wounds on each 6 to hit. Ouch!
GW will never be able to make a balanced game. And even if they try, they will fail as the example of the Executioners shows.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 auticus wrote:
The removal of hard counters by making everything viable.

Ask the Executioners in AoS. They fit very well into the game. 10 men, 200 pts, and two mortal wounds on each 6 to hit. Ouch!
GW will never be able to make a balanced game. And even if they try, they will fail as the example of the Executioners shows.

The Darkling Coven Executioners? I haven't heard of them used much at all.

The #1 thing I'm most looking forward to is simply playing. Fielding some 40k minis and being part of the 40k U, which I have not done in 6 or 7 years.

I voted for balanced/streamlined rules, which is just a huge bonus...even though it's really the #1 thing is drawing me back (though I suppose I could just do that w/ Kill Team or Shadow War).

I also voted for price adjustments. GW seems to have some really nice deals the past year or 2. But other things still seemed overpriced. Curious to see how 40k prices are changed, if at all, post-launch.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 auticus wrote:
The removal of hard counters by making everything viable.

Ask the Executioners in AoS. They fit very well into the game. 10 men, 200 pts, and two mortal wounds on each 6 to hit. Ouch!
GW will never be able to make a balanced game. And even if they try, they will fail as the example of the Executioners shows.

The Darkling Coven Executioners? I haven't heard of them used much at all.

some units will be more powerful then others sure but it's a matter of how flat the power curve is, it's a pretty steep one in 7th edition, with some units being criminally over costed and others being criminaly under costed

No option for: "40k that isn't a confusing and bloated mess"?

Being able to get my friends into playing. Before it was so hard with all the money involved in rules in addition to models. Now they can buy a box and we can get going

 DarkBlack wrote:
No option for: "40k that isn't a confusing and bloated mess"?

Not possible.

GWs entire business plan is create awesome minis and confusing bloated rules that force you to keep buying more minis regardless of how awesome (or not) they are.

Cheaper rules.

Cleaner rules.

Really the main things hurting 7th edition imo

Space Marine "don't ask don't tell" policy also known as
And They Shall Neither Ask Nor Tell
or
ATSNANT