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 alleus wrote:
It almost seems like this Stay Frosty guy has a hold of the starter box or something, anyone know where he/she is getting all these pictures if not?

They were the model builders, the guys who GW hires to actually put together the models for the previews. apparently they took these pics about 5 months ago

I need to see nurgle cultists :(

 Rippy wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Interesting.

My only real issue with the recent DG is that they are too over the top when it came to characterization. Couldn't give a damn about their size.

In other news, DG vs Primaris Starter? Well at least there I'll be able to retain some money

Not for me will probably sell the marine half though.

I am already going to splurge enough on the GH + the Astartes codex and the Tau codex for my nephew.... and I haven't even seen the Dreadnought yet... >_>

This seems wrong, they put out the FAQ saying Chaos would have their own toys rather than Primaris being corrupted.

Edit:

But I play Chaos! Where are my super-super-human reinforcements?

First off, that’ll teach you for turning your back on the Emperor. Secondly, did you not see the Death Guard teaser video? The Chaos Gods have not been idle – we guarantee there are some warp-charged hulking warriors on their way for you guys in the not too distant future.

Thanks, Rippy, for getting in contact with him and posting it here.

What does his last reply mean? For us non-native speakers could you guys explain his hint, please. No problem if that turns out to be a misinterpretation later, but it would help to understand what he is saying. Thank you

Vorian wrote:
This seems wrong, they put out the FAQ saying Chaos would have their own toys rather than Primaris being corrupted.

Edit:

But I play Chaos! Where are my super-super-human reinforcements?

First off, that’ll teach you for turning your back on the Emperor. Secondly, did you not see the Death Guard teaser video? The Chaos Gods have not been idle – we guarantee there are some warp-charged hulking warriors on their way for you guys in the not too distant future.

You can interpret this in a way that they HAVE corrupted Primaris marines:

" The Chaos Gods have not been idle" = The Chaos gods have been corrupting the new marines.

"we guarantee there are some warp-charged hulking warriors on their way for you guys" = Primaris will be coming for Chaos as corrupted versions.

Don't be surprised when it happens...

Yes, good point, Vorian

Warhams-77 wrote:
Thanks, Rippy, for getting in contact with him and posting it here.

What does his last reply mean? For us non-native speakers could you guys explain his hint, please. No problem if that turns out to be a misinterpretation later, but it would help to understand what he is saying. Thank you

I have asked for a clarification, but basically what he said was:
* This Death Guard is a Plague Marine, and will be in starter set
* This Miniature was also a Primaris Marine
* Chaos gods hasn't changed this marine at all, due to fluff/lore changes

Eyjio wrote:

Vorian wrote:
This seems wrong, they put out the FAQ saying Chaos would have their own toys rather than Primaris being corrupted.

Edit:

But I play Chaos! Where are my super-super-human reinforcements?

First off, that’ll teach you for turning your back on the Emperor. Secondly, did you not see the Death Guard teaser video? The Chaos Gods have not been idle – we guarantee there are some warp-charged hulking warriors on their way for you guys in the not too distant future.

You can interpret this in a way that they HAVE corrupted Primaris marines:

" The Chaos Gods have not been idle" = The Chaos gods have been corrupting the new marines.

"we guarantee there are some warp-charged hulking warriors on their way for you guys" = Primaris will be coming for Chaos as corrupted versions.

Don't be surprised when it happens...

Seeing as how people were claiming we would have corrupted Stormcast Eternals within a few release cycles but still nada there...

I think that it's a miscommunication from the guys who did the builds.

I have no problem if the Death Guard are somehow related. The idea sounds interesting. And large DG models, hell yes please

 Rippy wrote:
* Chaos gods hasn't changed this marine at all, due to fluff/lore changes

This point interests me greatly.

That's a very odd way to answer that question if they mean they have been corrupted. Its saying there are warp charged old marines, not corrupted New marines

I guess the actually difference is negotiable, big ass new marines all round, but I don't think they are technically Primaris Marines

 Rippy wrote:

I have asked for a clarification, but basically what he said was:
* This Death Guard is a Plague Marine, and will be in starter set
* This Miniature was also a Primaris Marine
* Chaos gods hasn't changed this marine at all, due to fluff/lore changes

Thank you

Vorian wrote:
This seems wrong, they put out the FAQ saying Chaos would have their own toys rather than Primaris being corrupted.

Their full reply was:
But I play Chaos! Where are my super-super-human reinforcements?

First off, that’ll teach you for turning your back on the Emperor. Secondly, did you not see the Death Guard teaser video? The Chaos Gods have not been idle – we guarantee there are some warp-charged hulking warriors on their way for you guys in the not too distant future.

There is a whole gulf of semantic ambiguity between what they said and "Chaos don't get corrupted Primaris", and the truth could be anywhere within that gulf.

Frankly, Primaris being incorruptible is lazy storytelling, the Imperium already has Sororitas, Grey Knights and Custodes who are allegedly incorruptible, adding primaris to the list (especially as they have confirmed there will be whole chapters of Primaris marines) begs the question of why Chaos is such a threat if the Imperium can pump out tens of thousands of warriors utterly immune to its influence.

It could be that Primaris marines are corruptible, but not many have fallen yet, and Chaos cannot take Primaris marines but will get something equivalent

It could be that the starter set tells the story of the first battle between Primaris marines and chaos corrupted Primaris marines

It could be that Chaos-corrupted Primaris marines exist in lore but are not available in game

It could be that chaos-corrupted Primaris marines behave mechanically the same as Plague Marines following their corruption, in the same way a nurgle-blessed Space Wolf doesn't have any different rules to a Nurgle-worshipping Blood Angel

All of those outcomes (and more) technically fall within the FAQ answer, because it is so vague as to not completely rule out or rule in anything other than chaos literally having access to Primaris marines in the same form as the Imperium do


EDIT: well that's what I get for typing slowly

I fully expect some Primaris to fall to Slaanesh within 30 seconds of deployment if they decide they're superior to Mk. 1 Astartes.

Okay just got this as well

http://imgur.com/a/GcHbA



Now it is sounding more like when he said "they weren't changed by chaos gods" he meant they were made from scratch by Nurgle.

It's painfully obvious all marines are now the Primaris size, loyalist via ultra-magic and chaos via Warp magic. These guys are the new 40k, as GW likes to put it.

The old scale is dead.

EDIT @ Rippy: either that or Chaos just made the existing marines grow two sizes the day they saw the Primaris. It's all easy enough to just say "The Warp" with Chaos.

Yeah, the armour isn't even Mk X.

The death guard looks like it is MKII. I freakin love the model!

 Mymearan wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:


You may be happy to find out they reboxed all the Sigmarines into boxes of 10 and dropped the price by a bit over 10%.

10%? Wasn't it more like 25%?

Whoops - yea they went from 50 for 5 to 72 for 10.

 Gamgee wrote:
Yeah but Custodes used to be so good they sat around defending the Emperor. They weren't out there in mass numbers directly replacing space marines. As a matter of fact there were so few they were basically unique individuals not a real army.

They are also distinct enough and will be around after old marines are gone. Old marines are just out dated. Plain up. Though who knows. Maybe Gulliman will get around to making super cutodes. Hahaha.

Too much fools being too hopeful in this thread.

Dude, just you trying hard to be miserable about a random piece of background, doesn't give you the right to piss over everybody else that is having a good time with what they get.
If you hate it all so much, why don't go and f...ind yourself another game that you like more.

Last time I checked this was a Warhammer forum, but it feels more and more like a forum for people that hate Warhammer.

NuMarine but equipped with a Mk II armor?

I'll take 30, thanks!

So my take away is:

*They are Primaris Sized (not Primaris themselves)
*Possible geneseed messed with in the warp to make super chaos marines, to counter Primaris and have a fluff excuse to make larger marines.

 Rippy wrote:
So my take away is:

*They are Primaris Sized (not Primaris themselves)
*Possible geneseed messed with in the warp to make super chaos marines, to counter Primaris and have a fluff excuse to make larger marines.

Oversized chaos marines are all over the lore, particularly as soon as mutations and even slight demonic influence play a role. That's the sort of stuff that 10k years in the warp does to you, especially if you are favoured by your god.

 Ragnar Blackmane wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
So my take away is:

*They are Primaris Sized (not Primaris themselves)
*Possible geneseed messed with in the warp to make super chaos marines, to counter Primaris and have a fluff excuse to make larger marines.

Oversized chaos marines are all over the lore, particularly as soon as mutations and even slight demonic influence play a role. That's the sort of stuff that 10k years in the warp does to you, especially if you are favoured by your god.

Yes, but up until this point, not the majority of cult figures, and if this rumour is true, then they will be.

 Rippy wrote:
So my take away is:

*They are Primaris Sized (not Primaris themselves)
*Possible geneseed messed with in the warp to make super chaos marines, to counter Primaris and have a fluff excuse to make larger marines.

I think what will be the most interesting to see is if Chaos Marines are all uniformly upgraded to Warp-hulk status in the rules, or if there will be a demarcation between them and the existing lines (that won't be expanded upon, but still supported). Fluffwise, it might not make much sense for there to be these guys and smaller marines who have all been sitting around in the Warp for 10k years. Unless the biggerfication is some recent phenomenon.

Weird that the Chaos Gods wouldn't have done this on their own already.

Is the 5th Chaos God...Lord Malchapterhouse?!?

The really neat thing is how familiar that model looks; it will tie in perfectly with the current Forge World Death Guard upgrade set.

 Bottle wrote:
The death guard looks like it is MKII. I freakin love the model!

It's Mk.III, look at the legs.

 Accolade wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
So my take away is:

*They are Primaris Sized (not Primaris themselves)
*Possible geneseed messed with in the warp to make super chaos marines, to counter Primaris and have a fluff excuse to make larger marines.

I think what will be the most interesting to see is if Chaos Marines are all uniformly upgraded to Warp-hulk status in the rules, or if there will be a demarcation between them and the existing lines (that won't be expanded upon, but still supported). Fluffwise, it might not make much sense for there to be these guys and smaller marines who have all been sitting around in the Warp for 10k years. Unless the biggerfication is some recent phenomenon.

I think it's hilarious that people are going crazy over new sizes... The Chaos Marines in Dark Vengeance were already bigger than regular marine, I myself have sized them and sent pictures to people. And the new 1k Sons are bigger as well, and not because of their head gear.