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 lord_blackfang wrote:
But man, Forgeworld will really come into its own in 8th edition. Making up convoluted bespoke rules for every model where a USR would do is their specialty.

So so true. Forge world always likes to go one rule too far, like they should have stopped and hit the backspace key after writing up that 4th rule for yet another knight/dreadnought variant.

I wonder if Primaris Space Marines are going to take up more slots in a transport than a Tactical Marine or if a Rhino will still fit 10 of them.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if Primaris Space Marines are going to take up more slots in a transport than a Tactical Marine or if a Rhino will still fit 10 of them.

I could see them getting a bulky style rule.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if Primaris Space Marines are going to take up more slots in a transport than a Tactical Marine or if a Rhino will still fit 10 of them.

I could see them getting a bulky style rule.

I hope not, but I am afraid that's probably going to be the case. Which sucks because that means that they can't fit in Razorbacks.

I get the feeling they will be regular size,

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if Primaris Space Marines are going to take up more slots in a transport than a Tactical Marine or if a Rhino will still fit 10 of them.

Didn't they already say that they will be getting their own transports?

If there is some transport restriction, it has to be on the vehicle datasheet as there wasn't one on the Intercessor sheet.

 Leth wrote:
I get the feeling they will be regular size,

I hope so. I don't want to have to reformulate all of my transports to work with bulky Marines. I need to decide what I want to do with them in the first place. Two Squads of 5 in a Razorback seems like it will work well enough. They will probably get one of the Lieutenants attached to each squad.

What I am REALLY hoping for is that Crimson Fists will still have the best bolt weapons in the West. If so, I will probably add the Inceptors to my list so they can mow down stuff.

If they get their own transport, I really hope it can carry twelve dudes, so it is possible to carry two squads and a lieutenant.

Locrian wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if Primaris Space Marines are going to take up more slots in a transport than a Tactical Marine or if a Rhino will still fit 10 of them.

Didn't they already say that they will be getting their own transports?

Eventually perhaps. All we know is there will be some Primaris based vehicles.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Locrian wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if Primaris Space Marines are going to take up more slots in a transport than a Tactical Marine or if a Rhino will still fit 10 of them.

Didn't they already say that they will be getting their own transports?

Eventually perhaps. All we know is there will be some Primaris based vehicles.

Primaris Taurox Prime. Hey, gotta sell those ugly as feth models somehow!

Haven't we seen the primaris marine datasheet? It doesn't mention anything about 'bulky' or an equivalent rule. Seems very unlikely that rules about what counts as how many transport slots are on the transport datasheet.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Haven't we seen the primaris marine datasheet? It doesn't mention anything about 'bulky' or an equivalent rule. Seems very unlikely that rules about what counts as how many transport slots are on the transport datasheet.

Rhino could easily just have a rule that says "Can't carry Infantry Models with the Keyword Primaris or models wearing Centurion or Terminator armour".

Any one have primaris in Space Wolf? A razorback would be the perfect vehicle for them. Heavy weapon support vs rhino which doesn't have a good weapon system. I never understood how vehicles didn't have a top armor value? Aren't planes and helicopters supposed to be tank killers.

Jjohnso11 wrote:
Any one have primaris in Space Wolf? A razorback would be the perfect vehicle for them. Heavy weapon support vs rhino which doesn't have a good weapon system. I never understood how vehicles didn't have a top armor value? Aren't planes and helicopters supposed to be tank killers.

Any Marine army save for possibly the Grey Knights and Deathwatch can run them in their army.

That said, with how allies work you can put them in there too, they just won't share all the rules.

GW have fleshed out Harliequins, Death Watch and Genestealer Cult. Legion of the Damned are a separate faction on the front of the Marine book.

Blood Angels could do with some Divine Intervention.
Might GW therefore release Plastic Legion of the Damned in Primaris scale?

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Haven't we seen the primaris marine datasheet? It doesn't mention anything about 'bulky' or an equivalent rule. Seems very unlikely that rules about what counts as how many transport slots are on the transport datasheet.

I really doubt the Rhino is going specifically call out Primaris as not being able to fit. Who knows though.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Haven't we seen the primaris marine datasheet? It doesn't mention anything about 'bulky' or an equivalent rule. Seems very unlikely that rules about what counts as how many transport slots are on the transport datasheet.

I really doubt the Rhino is going specifically call out Primaris as not being able to fit. Who knows though.

It was a possibility of how it could work, not a definite thing.

Maybe only infantry models with one wound and characters (with any number of wounds) are allowed in rhinos.

Zachectomy wrote:
Maybe only infantry models with one wound and characters (with any number of wounds) are allowed in rhinos.

Far too messy. Keyword or bust.

The most disappointing thing so far with this launch is that FW isn't releasing all the rules at the start...

I just hope they do individual datasheets for DL

I want to use my Barbed Hierodule

GodDamUser wrote:
The most disappointing thing so far with this launch is that FW isn't releasing all the rules at the start...

Forces of Imperium and Chaos on release, Xenos rumored to be next month

GodDamUser wrote:
The most disappointing thing so far with this launch is that FW isn't releasing all the rules at the start...

I just hope they do individual datasheets for DL

I want to use my Barbed Hierodule

What's more disappointing is that the very first thing FW shows us has an error in it.

Warhammer 40k Dark Imperium The Ultimate Warhammer 40k Boxed Set $160
Rulebook 8th edition Warhammer 40k $60
Sector Imperialis 40k Objectives $35
40k Combat Gauge $10
40k Command Dice $20
40k Wound Trackers $12.50
Tactical Objectives Deck 8th edition $12.50
Index Chaos retails for $25
Index Xenos Vol 2 $25
Index Xenos Vol 1 $25
Index Imperium Vol 2 $25
Index Imperium Vol 1 $25

Any one have primaris in Space Wolf? A razorback would be the perfect vehicle for them. Heavy weapon support vs rhino which doesn't have a good weapon system. I never understood how vehicles didn't have a top armor value? Aren't planes and helicopters supposed to be tank killers.

They are still missing a vital part of being a Space Wolf imo. Melee weapons.

Justyn wrote:

Any one have primaris in Space Wolf? A razorback would be the perfect vehicle for them. Heavy weapon support vs rhino which doesn't have a good weapon system. I never understood how vehicles didn't have a top armor value? Aren't planes and helicopters supposed to be tank killers.

They are still missing a vital part of being a Space Wolf imo. Melee weapons.

There will probably be more variations at some point. We are seeing the limited versions that are in the starter box. I would be utterly surprised if Inceptors don't have a CCW variation, especially for the Blood Angels.

And it isn't like Space Wolves totally eschew ranged weaponry. Their Tactical Squads can take two Special Weapons.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if Primaris Space Marines are going to take up more slots in a transport than a Tactical Marine or if a Rhino will still fit 10 of them.

I could see them getting a bulky style rule.

I hope not, but I am afraid that's probably going to be the case. Which sucks because that means that they can't fit in Razorbacks.

yeah I'm definatly thinking they're made for Razorbacks. put em in a Las Razorback, and you've got your anti vehicle.

There will probably be more variations at some point. We are seeing the limited versions that are in the starter box. I would be utterly surprised if Inceptors don't have a CCW variation, especially for the Blood Angels.

And it isn't like Space Wolves totally eschew ranged weaponry. Their Tactical Squads can take two Special Weapons.

Oh I agree. I just want giant Chainswords to go with the giant Bolters.

OP is now up to date with what I think is everything (haven't included a couple of the rumors in the last few pages as I didn't think it was worthwhile, let me know if someone wants something added though as I am happy to be wrong!)

BrianDavion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I wonder if Primaris Space Marines are going to take up more slots in a transport than a Tactical Marine or if a Rhino will still fit 10 of them.

I could see them getting a bulky style rule.

I hope not, but I am afraid that's probably going to be the case. Which sucks because that means that they can't fit in Razorbacks.

yeah I'm definatly thinking they're made for Razorbacks. put em in a Las Razorback, and you've got your anti vehicle.

I know, right? I might even just stick them in a basic Heavy Bolter Razorback with a Lieutenant inside for good measure. My Rhino Primaris might get a squad as well, but I will wait for the multi-part kit to come out for that one.