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 ClockworkZion wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
The typical problems are from the previous edition lens being applied to new rules.

Which is why I think we'd all be better off starting off playing a few games at the Patrol scale before we look to jump into larger games.

Or you know, ignore what others say and treat this game as a whole new game system. Like I plan to do.

 nintura wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
The typical problems are from the previous edition lens being applied to new rules.

Which is why I think we'd all be better off starting off playing a few games at the Patrol scale before we look to jump into larger games.

Or you know, ignore what others say and treat this game as a whole new game system. Like I plan to do.

That's why I recommend Patrol level games. They're basically the perfect level for learning a new game and you can build up from there rather easily.

Unique characters seem to have the "you can only have one of this model in your army" but I can't see it in the leaked entry for St Celestine?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Unique characters seem to have the "you can only have one of this model in your army" but I can't see it in the leaked entry for St Celestine?

I'm going to say she's supposed to be unique despite that.

That said, thanks to RAW you COULD have an army of Celestines.

There do seem to be a few inconsistencies, some of which are surely mistakes.

For instance, a Dark Eldar Archon has 5 attacks, his close combat equivalent, the Succubus, only has 4 attacks. Seems more like a mistake than a reasoned choice.

 docdoom77 wrote:
There do seem to be a few inconsistencies, some of which are surely mistakes.

For instance, a Dark Eldar Archon has 5 attacks, his close combat equivalent, the Succubus, only has 4 attacks. Seems more like a mistake than a reasoned choice.

One can only hope their claims of community input and changes will actually let us push changes to things like that.

Genstealer Cult Questions:

I can't find the points for Cult Icon anywhere, is this a free upgrade?

Can you take a unit Aberrants and not buy there weapons listed in their profile? I guess this would really apply to all units, do you have to pay for the base wargear listed in the profile if you don't want it?
Using the Aberrants as an example, they are 17pts and its 16pts to give them a power pick when they already have rending claws. I'd rather just run them naked with rending claws and essentially get 2 instead of one with a power pick.

I also don't see anything where a Hybrid Metamorph can't combine his weapons like he could in the previous edition to get a claw +2 strength and still use rending. I feel like this makes there claws not as useful.

Pretty sure you have to buy the wargear. Otherwise many models could be fielded weaponless which would be odd.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Unique characters seem to have the "you can only have one of this model in your army" but I can't see it in the leaked entry for St Celestine?

I'm going to say she's supposed to be unique despite that.

That said, thanks to RAW you COULD have an army of Celestines.

I want to do just this!

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Unique characters seem to have the "you can only have one of this model in your army" but I can't see it in the leaked entry for St Celestine?

I'm going to say she's supposed to be unique despite that.

That said, thanks to RAW you COULD have an army of Celestines.

I want to do just this!

I just realized i have like 4 celestines floating around the house.

i dont even know how that happened.

How did you get so awesome like this ?

 Desubot wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Unique characters seem to have the "you can only have one of this model in your army" but I can't see it in the leaked entry for St Celestine?

I'm going to say she's supposed to be unique despite that.

That said, thanks to RAW you COULD have an army of Celestines.

I want to do just this!

I just realized i have like 4 celestines floating around the house.

i dont even know how that happened.

Well she is a Saint in special armour so floating would be normal...

That said a lot of us tend to have the old metal one...or multiples of her...floating around.

I have two metal and one plastic

 Mr Morden wrote:
I have two metal and one plastic

Two metal that are assembled (only one currently painted) and a third metal one in parts...somewhere in the warp.

 BuZzZzJaY wrote:
Genstealer Cult Questions:

I can't find the points for Cult Icon anywhere, is this a free upgrade?

Can you take a unit Aberrants and not buy there weapons listed in their profile? I guess this would really apply to all units, do you have to pay for the base wargear listed in the profile if you don't want it?
Using the Aberrants as an example, they are 17pts and its 16pts to give them a power pick when they already have rending claws. I'd rather just run them naked with rending claws and essentially get 2 instead of one with a power pick.

I also don't see anything where a Hybrid Metamorph can't combine his weapons like he could in the previous edition to get a claw +2 strength and still use rending. I feel like this makes there claws not as useful.

If no price is listed, it's free. (For now!)

Aberrants are armed with a power pick and mining claw. You must purchase those unless it lets you trade for something else, which you must purchase instead.

The Metamorph claw that you can trade your Rending claw and Metamorph talon for has the +2S but no longer has rending.

So the summer campaing:


People will fight for 6 planets during 6 weeks. Every planet will have a specific history, a mission and special weekly rules and a gaming thematic, that will change based in how the battle ended for the previous planet.
The campaing is gonna be divided in 3 phases:

Promotion: Between 17 of June and 1 of July.
Army Gathering: Between 1 of July and 27 of July. Some Units will have more value in the campaing and it will be announced ( Amarketing tool)
Campaing: Between 27 of july and 10 of September. The battles and the painted units will give points for Chaos and Imperium.


Participants will gain double the campaing points if their armys contain some of the following units:
Week 1: Space Marines and Start Collecting! Boxes
Week 2: Elites
Week 3: Tanks
Week 4: Psykics
Week 5: Fast Attack/ Flyers
Week 6: Lords of War/Scenografy

Theres gonna be a web page for the campaing to see how it goes, information, etc...

Source: https://www.lavozdehorus.com/nuevos-datos-la-primera-campana-global-destino-konor/ (They cite B&C and a GW store on Hannover as source)

 BuZzZzJaY wrote:
Genstealer Cult Questions:

I can't find the points for Cult Icon anywhere, is this a free upgrade?
.

I think it's just a free upgrade, even the Wargear category listing on p113 doesn't have a listing for 'Other Wargear'.

Daedalus81 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
The typical problems are from the previous edition lens being applied to new rules.

Which is why I think we'd all be better off starting off playing a few games at the Patrol scale before we look to jump into larger games.

No way! I'm going in full bore!

Oh, also I think vibro last edition required a hit didn't it? This requires the unit to simply have been fired at by a vibro cannon.

Same here both got damn barrels bought a morkanaut,truk and boys today nice neat £100 take my money GW, thanks for fixing the game boys.

 Megaknob wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
The typical problems are from the previous edition lens being applied to new rules.

Which is why I think we'd all be better off starting off playing a few games at the Patrol scale before we look to jump into larger games.

No way! I'm going in full bore!

Oh, also I think vibro last edition required a hit didn't it? This requires the unit to simply have been fired at by a vibro cannon.

Same here both got damn barrels bought a morkanaut,truk and boys today nice neat £100 take my money GW, thanks for fixing the game boys.

I'm not saying to build up your army...just saying that the first game or two you might want to scale down your game size to get a feel for the rules

RULE #2 is STAY ON TOPIC.

The topic is "40k 8th Edition Summary".

The topic is definitely NOT everyone's personal model collection.

We need some o' dem FW index leaks now.

I need those chaos Spartan, sicaran and fire raptor rules.

 Rippy wrote:
We need some o' dem FW index leaks now.

I need those chaos Spartan, sicaran and fire raptor rules.

They also said there would be Badab updates. Seems weird as we don't even have the regular Chapter Tactics back yet.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
We need some o' dem FW index leaks now.

I need those chaos Spartan, sicaran and fire raptor rules.

They also said there would be Badab updates. Seems weird as we don't even have the regular Chapter Tactics back yet.

Possible that Forge World will have things like chapter tactics and the like from the start in their indexes, not following GW codex system.

Or maybe they just mean Badab characters for now.

 Rippy wrote:
We need some o' dem FW index leaks now.

I need those chaos Spartan, sicaran and fire raptor rules.

Ya, I'm waiting for the Repressor battlesheet, assuming it will get one.

Since the thread is moving faster than I have time to catch up on; have we seen anything on how Assault Vehicles work, alternatively have we seen stats for Land Raiders?

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Since the thread is moving faster than I have time to catch up on; have we seen anything on how Assault Vehicles work, alternatively have we seen stats for Land Raiders?

All the rules are in the OP.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Since the thread is moving faster than I have time to catch up on; have we seen anything on how Assault Vehicles work, alternatively have we seen stats for Land Raiders?

Full rule book/index leaks in original post

Basically all vehicles are assault vehicles now.

So, am looking at this right? A Deff Dread costs 74 plus the 2 dread klaws and the 2 big Shoota for a total base price of 131? Or is it just 74?

v0iddrgn wrote:
So, am looking at this right? A Deff Dread costs 74 plus the 2 dread klaws and the 2 big Shoota for a total base price of 131? Or is it just 74?

131, see how the entry says "Wargear not included" so you need to add the Wargear points to the base model.

As a new player to 40k, getting the starter box and going with Death Guard, is this like AoS where I can field a mix of "Chaos" aligned models? Like can I use my Tzaanzagor and New Death guard, and throw in some Khorne stuff?