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 docdoom77 wrote:
The most important piece of this tank isn't receiving any press. Check out the flying stand it's on! That sucker is thick! Like 1" diameter thick. Finally, a stand for a skimmer that won't snap!

Jeez - you ain't kidding! Good spot!

Hmmm...

Love the idea behind the Repulsor, but it's a really sloppy execution. For starters the grav plates are an incredibly awkward shape. They look unfinished and strike a very angular, almost pixel-like profile against the smooth hull of the vehicle. It's also very strange that the vehicle has the same design as its threaded predecessors, even though it has no use for thread covers. I love the look of the pintel mounted weapon, and I love that the back looks like a re-imagined Imperial Devilfish.

I think this is a huge missed opportunity in terms of the design aesthetic.

Lord Kragan wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
They really are trying hard to destroy internal consistency in their setting with vehicles like this.. Where were all these technological advancements hiding? I guess it's nice that a SINGLE previously unknown character magically creates them all in the last year.

Primaris should use everything space marines use since Guilliman is leading them.. you know the guy who wrote the codex astartes.

That's the same thing as with Corvex. How in blazes did they lose the last imperial jetbike and still have it afterwards?

This is hinted at pretty heavily that the Dark Angels have hidden reservoirs of old tech in the Rock, it's perfectly feasible that they have old STCs for Corvex and other technological "marvels" nobody else has.

Even during the Great Crusade they were known to have strange, mysterious tech nobody else had.

Perks of being the 1st

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Hmmm...

Love the idea behind the Repulsor, but it's a really sloppy execution. For starters the grav plates are an incredibly awkward shape. They look unfinished and strike a very angular, almost pixel-like profile against the smooth hull of the vehicle. It's also very strange that the vehicle has the same design as its threaded predecessors, even though it has no use for thread covers. I love the look of the pintel mounted weapon, and I love that the back looks like a re-imagined Imperial Devilfish.

I think this is a huge missed opportunity in terms of the design aesthetic.

It kind of makes sense, if you think of it as a predator landraider chassis that's been sloppily upgraded with grav tech and more guns.
To me the implication is that while they had the primaris infantry ready, they didn't have the vehicles for them, so they had to convert existing vehicle models with the new tech they dug up.

That's not built on a Predator Chassis. That thing is clearly built on a LR chassis.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
That's not built on a Predator Chassis. That thing is clearly built on a LR chassis.

Oh yeah, I suppose it is. Imperial Vehicles all look the same to me
Still, my point stands.

Well, It seems my suspicions were right and it is a grav tank.

It looks really good, I'm relieved after the ugly dreadnought. I like all the stovage, but as noted, the amount of missiles is a tad excessive. Then again, with those new and controversial vehicle shooting rules it doesn't matter where on the vehicle you place the weapons, so one can toy with the placement to achieve more balanced look. I think that in particular the two different types of missiles on the turret is too much, so it might be good idea to place the another pair someplace else.

scatter wrote:
I have some questions to the leaked stuff. Haven't found answers so far yet.

Chaos:
1. I can't find the melt bomb anywhere in the Chaos index. Are they gone?

2. I can't find vehicle equitment like dirge casters and dozer blades. Are these things gone?

Orks:
1. The looted wagon is missing in the ork index part. Is it confirmed, that its gone?

General:
The indecis mention Legions and Marks for Chaos and Clan for Orks but those things are not described in the indices. Am i missing something, or will these come with codices?

THX!

You're not really missing anything. Lots of factions lost named units from supplements or White Dwarf exclusive stuff. You basically get your basic stuff with no fancy rules. The expectation is that we'll buy indexes now AND codexes later to get the full rules for our armies. The real question in my mind is how long will that take? 8th Edition drops 6/17. How many months/years until I have codexes in hand for my various armies? Who knows. Age of Sigmar has been out for ~2 years now and most of the factions don't have a full battletome. Given GW's history, I wouldn't be surprised if I don't get a codex for my army for a couple of years.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
That's not built on a Predator Chassis. That thing is clearly built on a LR chassis.

Oh yeah, I suppose it is. Imperial Vehicles all look the same to me
Still, my point stands.

No doubt, and it is a reasonable explanation, liking the aesthetic or not.

if those missle pods were one shot, or a one shot defensive weapon then maybe i can get with it.

New Dread and new tank. Now it's the time for a new gunship. Plastic Thun....I mean Primehawk!

Interesting. So Cawl is taking STCs and tinkering around with them and altering them into new tech. Yet another little tidbit of information confirming my personal theory that GW is setting up the Imperium for a second Heresy, the Guilliman Heresy.

Lord Kragan wrote:

That's the same thing as with Corvex. How in blazes did they lose the last imperial jetbike and still have it afterwards?

They hint in the fluff that it being the "Last Jetbike" is probably just propaganda and yet another Dark Angel lie/secret, and they have hangers full of Corvexes.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
New Dread and new tank. Now it's the time for a new gunship. Plastic Thun....I mean Primehawk!

Following the naming convention, I shall dub it the LightningTurkey

Well, I was going to buy 3 of the new Dreadnoughts. Maybe now I'm buying a few of these as well. Curse you, GW.

So this is a preview of a product that will be made to fix the problems in a product that hasn't been released yet?

I giggled

I like that they're finally changing the idea that the Imperium relies entirely on old and dwindling technology. Not only does it strain credibility (pragamatism wins out over dogma over time), it also creates a dead end for new imperium models. there are only so many variants to current kits, and nobody seemed like to shoehorning in brand new units (like Centurions) by pretending they've been used the whole time.

For the first time, really ever, 40k is a more dynamic universe. That's a good thing for us as collectors and hobbyists.

And for those that say that GW should stop making Astartes kits, and make stuff for other factions: I can only assume that GW knows what sells, and caters to that. Like it or not, the collective affection for power army basically makes 40k a viable game. You know GW makes a ton more on every SM frame than anything they make for DE or AM. So, the extent that people buying space marines brings me new toys, I say, huzzah!

No internal consistency - dont landspeeders float? custodies still have some hover tanks, hasnt all this taken cawl (and when they say crawl they just mean all the peeps working with him on mars for the last few 1000 years?) a fair while, its a fair fluff way of moving it forward - otherwise the game would stagnate and slowly die (which has been happening for a long time). What options are there, they find it/rediscover it or they make it/research it, thats kinda all the options there are for finding/making new stuff.

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:

That's the same thing as with Corvex. How in blazes did they lose the last imperial jetbike and still have it afterwards?

They hint in the fluff that it being the "Last Jetbike" is probably just propaganda and yet another Dark Angel lie/secret, and they have hangers full of Corvexes.

It's also posited that the Dark Angels and perhaps their Successors still have the STC for Jetbikes.

 Ratius wrote:

So this is a preview of a product that will be made to fix the problems in a product that hasn't been released yet?

I giggled

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Day 1 DLC and Patch, GW is truly a AAA company

More observations: It is about land raider sized. The big turret missile boxes come with lids, so if you just clue those shut, it will already lessen the impression of 'missiles everywhere.' As blurry as the earlier leaked picture was, I believe it has different weapons than this, so at least two variants exist.

Speaking of variants, this one seems to have a gakload of guns, so is probably a lot of points. I hope there exist a cheaper variant with minimal weapons dedicated on transport duties.

As for the design, I think the turret is the weakest part. I think this would look better with more minimalistic razorback style turret.

As long as I can remove the dude standing on top of it and have it closed, I'll be pleased.

I REALLY hate the new direction the Imperium Lore is going, so the only way O can still play 40k with friends, is to play my Sisters of Battle, have them them waging a war against Gulliman and his band of heretics.

At least that way, everytime a dumb hover tank rolls out I can nod and be like "The heresy is further confirmed" and then the Sisters can scorch some Primarius Marines as the mutant they are.

Gulliman died on Ultramar.

A Xenos puppet commands the Imperium.

Death to the False Prophet. Rise up, true servants of the Emperor!

TFW when If the Emperor had a text to Speech device is getting closer and closer to reality

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Ratius wrote:

So this is a preview of a product that will be made to fix the problems in a product that hasn't been released yet?

I giggled

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Day 1 DLC and Patch, GW is truly a AAA company

More like day 180 since it will be available by Christmas, but I guess we can tell them we don't want updates.

Fair enough, its just kind of amusing they are advertising the CA book this soon.
Then again, I guess it does make sense as they already have a tank to put into it. Though why it's not in the index is beyond me.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Fair enough, its just kind of amusing they are advertising the CA book this soon.
Then again, I guess it does make sense as they already have a tank to put into it. Though why it's not in the index is beyond me.

What would be the selling point of this book if you had all new toys already in the indexes?

For anyone who is interested, they are playing a game of 8th edition right now on warhammer live on twitch.

Chikout wrote:
For anyone who is interested, they are playing a game of 8th edition right now on warhammer live on twitch.

I feel bad for how few of them know the rules.

So the new tank is a hover tank (I knew those things looked like land speeder grav plates) and 40k's generals handbook will be chapter approved? I'm head over heels.