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So here's a random thought:

Space Marine Skimmer tank
With a large Lascannon turret
and Missiles

...This is the Deoderant Tank, isn't it?

Think I prefer the tank with solid colour grav plates.



Some wear and tear here and there, leave off a rocked pod or two and it will look great.

Daedalus81 wrote:
This just in from the stream - reserves count as a drop.

What does this sentence mean? Is there some jargon I'm not up to date on?

Daedalus81 wrote:
This just in from the stream - reserves count as a drop.

What do you mean by "as a drop"?


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 His Master's Voice wrote:
Think I prefer the tank with solid colour grav plates.

Spoiler:

Some wear and tear here and there, leave off a rocked pod or two and it will look great.

Like I though: Templar black makes everything better.

Some wear and tear here and there, leave off a rocked pod or two and it will look great.

Now put some subdued Space Wolves symbols on it, and it will be perfect.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
The new art is just fething glorious. They are out.standing!!!!

Spoiler:

Templars represent!!!!!

This can't come soon enough, well I will have to wait longer since I wont be able to get down at launch!

The top one looks amazing and has a lot of texture to it. The bottom one however looks just like all the other mediocre art i've been bagging on the past couple years. Very photoshop esque maybe at best it belongs on a little book cover for a book that not many people will buy and read.

Anyhow, the grav repulsor tank looks pretty crazy. I like some aspects of it aside from the turret. It seems the turret is super busy and most of its weapons are on it. I kind of prefer the simplicity of the rhino...this thing looks like i'd paint one and then be like alright...I did one and that's all for now.

 docdoom77 wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
This just in from the stream - reserves count as a drop.

What does this sentence mean? Is there some jargon I'm not up to date on?

The person who places the last model in deployment goes 2nd. Typically to avoid that, you could pick a bunch of models that Deep Strike in or similar, since they're not deployed as normal. He's saying that those units that aren't deployed as normal still counts as drops for determining first turn. What will be interesting to see is if they clarify if I can pick reserves drops before normal ones. IE: Player one deploys a rhino. Player two says "drop pod in reserve". Player one deploys another model. That gives a huge advantage to reserves.

NB: I didn't hear what they said in the stream.

Edit: There is nothing in the rules that speaks to this, yay or nay, that I can see.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Think I prefer the tank with solid colour grav plates.

Some wear and tear here and there, leave off a rocked pod or two and it will look great.

Wow, that model looks so much better. Might need something to break it up, but for now it's looking better already.

That reworked paint job on the Repulsor makes it a bit better.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Think I prefer the tank with solid colour grav plates.



Some wear and tear here and there, leave off a rocked pod or two and it will look great.

Could we see it in Scythes of the Emperor Livery?

While I understand what they were going for I think I would have preferred something that didn't maintain the Land Raider profile as much. That turret is too busy and the hull could be better.

Are these better stats than predators?

 docdoom77 wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
This just in from the stream - reserves count as a drop.

What does this sentence mean? Is there some jargon I'm not up to date on?

Okay, got clarification from the stream. Terminators deploy to a teleportarium, so you still have to "Deploy" them in the deployment phase, but they just dont get placed on the board. That gives an advantage to those people with models that can Deep Strike as that forces the opponent to reveal their deployments first.

 aka_mythos wrote:
While I understand what they were going for I think I would have preferred something that didn't maintain the Land Raider profile as much. That turret is too busy and the hull could be better.

Quick trim down of the turret. Maybe a bit better?

Ok another baffling thing from the stream...

They Death Guard Defiler is taking Disgustingly Resilient saves...

Or at least they stated as much.

I didn't look specifically at the missile pods but they must be absolute pants for them to be handed out on everything like candy..

To me it screams Rhino outline way more than it does Land Raider.. and I think it's a preview of what the new Rhino might also have in store as far as bulk... maybe..

The armaments.. are just insane. The number of weapons are what I would expect on a superheavy or a FW vehicle that's insane.. or maybe an ork vehicle.. but here we have it on a medium/large tank body. (mind you I'm not caught up on current stuff so my mindset is more along the lines of 4th/5th)

I'm seeing what looks like 2 missile pods above the doors, 2 on the turrets, one on the rear, possibly another one on the turret (the weird little 3 missile thing), a TL lascannon, I think another lascannon, a heavy stubber or bolter coaxial, and.. a punisher gatling cannon on a pintel? That can't be right.. Maybe it's an assault cannon..

That's a LOT of muscle.

Not bad Rinkydink

 aka_mythos wrote:
That turret is too busy and the hull could be better.

like this (from reddit)

Tweaks to the BA one by theharrower -

Charax wrote:
So here's a random thought:

Space Marine Skimmer tank
With a large Lascannon turret
and Missiles

...This is the Deoderant Tank, isn't it?

I think I'd rather have the deodorant tank, it looks better.

I'm use to GW's new vehicles having something I need to fix on them, removing the landing gear from the turret gun on the stormtalon, changing the top turret on the stormraven. But with this I'm struggling to find any redeeming features.

 MajorTom11 wrote:


Another little tweak to the BA one -

Oh that is a nice re-color.

I'm not one to cut GW any slack, but that is a cool tank. Love the grav tank, aggressive lines, more modern weapon loadout set up. The side launchers are probably defenses or maybe anti - air. Not that air power really matters un the new rules. -1 to hit. Big whup.

 Thargrim wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
The new art is just fething glorious. They are out.standing!!!!

Spoiler:

Templars represent!!!!!

This can't come soon enough, well I will have to wait longer since I wont be able to get down at launch!

The top one looks amazing and has a lot of texture to it. The bottom one however looks just like all the other mediocre art i've been bagging on the past couple years. Very photoshop esque maybe at best it belongs on a little book cover for a book that not many people will buy and read.

The top one is incredibly reminiscent of the 4th ed. Black Templars codex cover. I approve.

 MLaw wrote:
I didn't look specifically at the missile pods but they must be absolute pants for them to be handed out on everything like candy..

To me it screams Rhino outline way more than it does Land Raider.. and I think it's a preview of what the new Rhino might also have in store as far as bulk... maybe..

The armaments.. are just insane. The number of weapons are what I would expect on a superheavy or a FW vehicle that's insane.. or maybe an ork vehicle.. but here we have it on a medium/large tank body. (mind you I'm not caught up on current stuff so my mindset is more along the lines of 4th/5th)

I'm seeing what looks like 2 missile pods above the doors, 2 on the turrets, one on the rear, possibly another one on the turret (the weird little 3 missile thing), a TL lascannon, I think another lascannon, a heavy stubber or bolter coaxial, and.. a punisher gatling cannon on a pintel? That can't be right.. Maybe it's an assault cannon..

That's a LOT of muscle.

I disagree, that is a land raider with grav.

Anyway, I don't like it, for a few reasons. I don't like the grav plates, I don't like them on a lot of things but they stick out too far for me.

Secondly, I don't like the departure from the fluff. I used to like Eldar having the grav tanks, I didn't like but accepted Tau having grav tanks as well but this is too far for me.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
I didn't look specifically at the missile pods but they must be absolute pants for them to be handed out on everything like candy..

To me it screams Rhino outline way more than it does Land Raider.. and I think it's a preview of what the new Rhino might also have in store as far as bulk... maybe..

The armaments.. are just insane. The number of weapons are what I would expect on a superheavy or a FW vehicle that's insane.. or maybe an ork vehicle.. but here we have it on a medium/large tank body. (mind you I'm not caught up on current stuff so my mindset is more along the lines of 4th/5th)

I'm seeing what looks like 2 missile pods above the doors, 2 on the turrets, one on the rear, possibly another one on the turret (the weird little 3 missile thing), a TL lascannon, I think another lascannon, a heavy stubber or bolter coaxial, and.. a punisher gatling cannon on a pintel? That can't be right.. Maybe it's an assault cannon..

That's a LOT of muscle.

I disagree, that is a land raider with grav.

Anyway, I don't like it, for a few reasons. I don't like the grav plates, I don't like them on a lot of things but they stick out too far for me.

Secondly, I don't like the departure from the fluff. I used to like Eldar having the grav tanks, I didn't like but accepted Tau having grav tanks as well but this is too far for me.

The Imperium had grav technology in spades during the Great Crusade, Cawl bringing it back isn't really breaking anything I feel. If anything it feels like they're setting up some light before they screw humanity over harder.

"Look at how great the Imperium is doing!" GW says, "Now watch as we wreck this loving scene of progress and basically usher in a worse ending for mankind than what you had awaiting you before!"

Ruin wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
The new art is just fething glorious. They are out.standing!!!!

Spoiler:

Templars represent!!!!!

This can't come soon enough, well I will have to wait longer since I wont be able to get down at launch!

The top one looks amazing and has a lot of texture to it. The bottom one however looks just like all the other mediocre art i've been bagging on the past couple years. Very photoshop esque maybe at best it belongs on a little book cover for a book that not many people will buy and read.

The top one is incredibly reminiscent of the 4th ed. Black Templars codex cover. I approve.

Aye, the style in the bottom reminds me of the one I like the least, does look a bit too 'digital' if that makes sense, but it's Templars so......

Hmm, maybe that's why I like that picture so much haha. I am still praying WarhammerArt release the BT cover. I would proudly purify my walls with such beauty!

OT sorry. Not long now lads. I didn't know the Lieutenants can be taken as separate units, I am guessing it is the same with the Ancient? This is becoming more and more perfect for an Imperium army.

Also have GW stated the new faction is DG yet? If not, there was a comment suggesting what if the new faction was the Ecclesiarchy? A lot of the new art does have a lot of how shall we say......more spirited individuals.

Full on fanatic and sisters release, I think I may actually faint.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Think I prefer the tank with solid colour grav plates.



Some wear and tear here and there, leave off a rocked pod or two and it will look great.

Could we see it in Scythes of the Emperor Livery?

Scythes I think would look fantastic, and fluff wise I can see papa smurf reinforcing them after the 'little bug problem' they had That would take away from the character of the chapter but well GW gotta make a buck right and it's never stopped them before.

I LOVE this tank, I was wondering why the AC's didn't get grav rhinos as that's the one thing that really put me off of them. Now we know why.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
I didn't look specifically at the missile pods but they must be absolute pants for them to be handed out on everything like candy..

To me it screams Rhino outline way more than it does Land Raider.. and I think it's a preview of what the new Rhino might also have in store as far as bulk... maybe..

The armaments.. are just insane. The number of weapons are what I would expect on a superheavy or a FW vehicle that's insane.. or maybe an ork vehicle.. but here we have it on a medium/large tank body. (mind you I'm not caught up on current stuff so my mindset is more along the lines of 4th/5th)

I'm seeing what looks like 2 missile pods above the doors, 2 on the turrets, one on the rear, possibly another one on the turret (the weird little 3 missile thing), a TL lascannon, I think another lascannon, a heavy stubber or bolter coaxial, and.. a punisher gatling cannon on a pintel? That can't be right.. Maybe it's an assault cannon..

That's a LOT of muscle.

I disagree, that is a land raider with grav.

Anyway, I don't like it, for a few reasons. I don't like the grav plates, I don't like them on a lot of things but they stick out too far for me.

Secondly, I don't like the departure from the fluff. I used to like Eldar having the grav tanks, I didn't like but accepted Tau having grav tanks as well but this is too far for me.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Grav-tank#Imperial

Someone posted the original grav tank already.. which this appears to be a further mark of.. BUT.. FW has had Imperial Grav Tanks for a while and moreover, Dark Angels have had the Darkshroud.. which is an upscaled Land Speeder with a bunch of guns.. IE.. a grav tank. Your angst seems unfounded IMO.
EDIT: Before someone chimes in.. yes I know the original grav tank was a deodorant stick with bits.. but it had stats in the official list.

endlesswaltz123 wrote:

I disagree, that is a land raider with grav.

Anyway, I don't like it, for a few reasons. I don't like the grav plates, I don't like them on a lot of things but they stick out too far for me.

Secondly, I don't like the departure from the fluff. I used to like Eldar having the grav tanks, I didn't like but accepted Tau having grav tanks as well but this is too far for me.

I don't like it either. It looks too much like they took a landraider hull and hammered random bits from other models (land speeder, predator etc) all over it and to me looks disjointed and jumbled mess. So definitely a miss.

A shame considering the quality of the boxed Nurgle miniatures.

LTs are seperate units like Ancients, but they're also characters, something I don't recall if it applies to Ancients.

Ministorum seems to be a separate faction from Sisters (makes sense as they work with both Sisters and the Guard), but that really doesn't mean much other than usage of keywords to prevent rules from bleeding from one sub-faction to the other.