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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 18:29:46
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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dan2026 wrote:Have GW ever said why they haven't made new models for Sisters yet?
Because they are always saying how much demand they receive and how surprisingly popular they are.
Why wouldn't you just make them?
Hell in this very article they were bigging Sisters up to the high heavens!
The technology just isn't there yet.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 18:31:45
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Fresh-Faced New User
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dan2026 wrote:Have GW ever said why they haven't made new models for Sisters yet?
Because they are always saying how much demand they receive and how surprisingly popular they are.
Why wouldn't you just make them?
Hell in this very article they were bigging Sisters up to the high heavens!
I remember reading somewhere that they could never get the molds to look how they wanted, and now with Celestine and the Twins we can see that they can. So it's probably just a matter of time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 18:42:34
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Twoshoes23 wrote:For the life of me I can't understand the thinking that sisters if made reasonable priced, plastic, with faces that don't look like The terminator won't sell. Your telling me you can't sell religious fanatical pyro space nuns but you can sell weeabo anime suits or Even Bigger Marines. Really??
It is not even like they'd have to be fantastically popular, just as popular than genestealer cults, as sisters could be easily made as similar relatively limited set of kits. Anyhow, this is probably enough of this subject.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 18:45:48
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Crimson wrote: Twoshoes23 wrote:For the life of me I can't understand the thinking that sisters if made reasonable priced, plastic, with faces that don't look like The terminator won't sell. Your telling me you can't sell religious fanatical pyro space nuns but you can sell weeabo anime suits or Even Bigger Marines. Really??
It is not even like they'd have to be fantastically popular, just as popular than genestealer cults, as sisters could be easily made as similar relatively limited set of kits. Anyhow, this is probably enough of this subject.
I honestly cannot imagine them selling less than Genestealer Cults.
I can't remember anyone really calling for Cults to comes back much.
I see people asking for Sisters every day!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 18:56:19
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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If they made plastic sisters I'd do my Inquisition super friends army. A Watch Company or two, company of Grey Knights and whatever the equivalent of a company of sisters is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 18:58:46
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Skillful Swordsman
Skeaune
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kodos wrote: dan2026 wrote:Have GW ever said why they haven't made new models for Sisters yet?
No one wants them, not enough recourse for a complete overhaul and they have problems with their haircut made in plastic
Hahaha just like no-one wanted Genestealer cults, Deathwatch or Harlequins?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 19:00:04
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Dakka Veteran
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kodos wrote: dan2026 wrote:Have GW ever said why they haven't made new models for Sisters yet?
No one wants them, not enough recourse for a complete overhaul and they have problems with their haircut made in plastic
Looks at Gather Storm character set 1. Wrong on both accounts.
Big fear is they bring out plastic Sisters and they cost as much as Witch Elves. Sales never appear and GW writes them off because 10 Sisters costing more money than a full tactical squad of Marines is just bonkers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 19:35:22
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Impassive Inquisitorial Interrogator
U.K.
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Chairman Aeon wrote: kodos wrote: dan2026 wrote:Have GW ever said why they haven't made new models for Sisters yet?
No one wants them, not enough recourse for a complete overhaul and they have problems with their haircut made in plastic
Looks at Gather Storm character set 1. Wrong on both accounts.
Big fear is they bring out plastic Sisters and they cost as much as Witch Elves. Sales never appear and GW writes them off because 10 Sisters costing more money than a full tactical squad of Marines is just bonkers.
Ican tell you that they actually DID have a problem with designing them in plastic for years, one of the major things was that they couldn't get the hair to look right.The new stuff looks good and theyve increased skill and tech in the plastics department a lot over the years. It may not be a problem now however.
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3 SPRUUUUUEESSSS!!!!
JWBS wrote:
I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 19:57:42
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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This thread is NOT for Sister of Battle Speculation - please go create a thread (or find an existing one?) for that.
Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 20:02:36
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
New York, USA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 20:07:28
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Stoic Grail Knight
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I believe it was somewhere in this monstrous thread, but I can't seem to locate it: someone made a cleaned up version of the Primaris Space Marine scheme painting tool, would anyone be able to send me the link?
Thanks
EDIT: got it, thanks Reese!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 22:40:39
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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I see what Frontline Gaming was talking about with not liking the "Explodes" rule.
Have watched a few battle reports, and damn it is devastating to the units around them.
Even psykers that perils of the warp, if you have them in a gunline at the back, you are going to have a bad time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 23:03:40
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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The New Miss Macross!
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Accolade wrote:I believe it was somewhere in this monstrous thread, but I can't seem to locate it: someone made a cleaned up version of the Primaris Space Marine scheme painting tool, would anyone be able to send me the link?
Thanks
EDIT: got it, thanks Reese!
I'm not sure if it's the same one but the one I posted a few days back is linked below in my sig.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/04 23:32:54
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Stoic Grail Knight
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It was, fantastic work there warboss!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 02:34:09
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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Vehicles exploding and being a real problem might make buggies and Trukks a great suicide unit. I DARE your to kill my Trukks that just sped into the middle of your army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 02:39:14
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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matphat wrote:Vehicles exploding and being a real problem might make buggies and Trukks a great suicide unit. I DARE your to kill my Trukks that just sped into the middle of your army.
just don't let the transports get surrounded.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 03:07:55
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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The New Miss Macross!
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axisofentropy wrote: matphat wrote:Vehicles exploding and being a real problem might make buggies and Trukks a great suicide unit. I DARE your to kill my Trukks that just sped into the middle of your army.
just don't let the transports get surrounded.
For those of us who didn't watch the stream, what is the issue with exploding vehicles? Previous editions had exploding vehicles if you rolled a 5 or 6 depending on the vehicle and weapon on the damage chart... or is this some sort of simplification gone horribly wrong?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 03:28:07
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Aizuwakamatsu, Fukushima, Japan
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warboss wrote: axisofentropy wrote: matphat wrote:Vehicles exploding and being a real problem might make buggies and Trukks a great suicide unit. I DARE your to kill my Trukks that just sped into the middle of your army.
just don't let the transports get surrounded.
For those of us who didn't watch the stream, what is the issue with exploding vehicles? Previous editions had exploding vehicles if you rolled a 5 or 6 depending on the vehicle and weapon on the damage chart... or is this some sort of simplification gone horribly wrong?
Exploding vehicles now deal Mortal Wounds, so Terminator or Grot you die all the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 03:37:29
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
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Chrysis wrote: warboss wrote: axisofentropy wrote: matphat wrote:Vehicles exploding and being a real problem might make buggies and Trukks a great suicide unit. I DARE your to kill my Trukks that just sped into the middle of your army.
just don't let the transports get surrounded.
For those of us who didn't watch the stream, what is the issue with exploding vehicles? Previous editions had exploding vehicles if you rolled a 5 or 6 depending on the vehicle and weapon on the damage chart... or is this some sort of simplification gone horribly wrong?
Exploding vehicles now deal Mortal Wounds, so Terminator or Grot you die all the same.
Makes transports scary if you destroy them in CC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 04:05:42
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I'm reminded of a 3rd Edition game where we had what came to be known as the "Over-Enthusiastic Warlock". He, along with his unit of Guardians, ended up in HTH with a Sentinel. The Guardians could do anything, but the Warlock sure could, and he smacked that lil' walker with his Witchblade as hard as his little Space Elf arms would let him. BOOOOOOM! The Sentinel exploded, wiping out the entire Guardian unit and leaving the Warlock standing in a crater all alone. But don't worry guys. Exploding vehicles dealing mortal wounds isn't as bad as the poor souls inside the vehicle, who die instantly no matter how many wounds they have, because in the Grim Darkness of the 41st millennium the insides of transport vehicles are all rigged with Vortex grenades.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 04:49:05
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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The New Miss Macross!
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Chrysis wrote: warboss wrote: axisofentropy wrote: matphat wrote:Vehicles exploding and being a real problem might make buggies and Trukks a great suicide unit. I DARE your to kill my Trukks that just sped into the middle of your army.
just don't let the transports get surrounded.
For those of us who didn't watch the stream, what is the issue with exploding vehicles? Previous editions had exploding vehicles if you rolled a 5 or 6 depending on the vehicle and weapon on the damage chart... or is this some sort of simplification gone horribly wrong?
Exploding vehicles now deal Mortal Wounds, so Terminator or Grot you die all the same.
Yeah... that's pretty stupid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 04:50:56
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Was this ever talked about? This came from War of Sigmar. I hope these end up coming with White Dwarf. It is suppose to be in the Start Painting kit. Seems weird since there is a SM one that only came out last year.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 04:56:27
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Stubborn White Lion
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warboss wrote:Chrysis wrote: warboss wrote: axisofentropy wrote: matphat wrote:Vehicles exploding and being a real problem might make buggies and Trukks a great suicide unit. I DARE your to kill my Trukks that just sped into the middle of your army.
just don't let the transports get surrounded.
For those of us who didn't watch the stream, what is the issue with exploding vehicles? Previous editions had exploding vehicles if you rolled a 5 or 6 depending on the vehicle and weapon on the damage chart... or is this some sort of simplification gone horribly wrong?
Exploding vehicles now deal Mortal Wounds, so Terminator or Grot you die all the same.
Yeah... that's pretty stupid.
They only explode when the reach 0 wounds and then you roll a 6, when it does happen it's devastating though, in worried about warlock who have 2 wounds and need to be stood 3" away from a unit to give them the buff from their psychic powers, perils causes D3 mortal wounds and if it kills the psycher every unit within 6" also takes D3 mortal wounds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 05:03:30
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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casvalremdeikun wrote:Was this ever talked about? This came from War of Sigmar. I hope these end up coming with White Dwarf. It is suppose to be in the Start Painting kit. Seems weird since there is a SM one that only came out last year.
very reminiscent of the Stormcast that came with a WD. As someone with no current interest in the Primaris it will be nice to have one in the flesh if it comes with a WD.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 05:06:50
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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casvalremdeikun wrote:Was this ever talked about? This came from War of Sigmar. I hope these end up coming with White Dwarf. It is suppose to be in the Start Painting kit. Seems weird since there is a SM one that only came out last year.
Was there not some thing where if you went into a GW store and preordered All The Things on Saturday there you got a free Primaris?
You'd hope they'd give them away with the WD, but if they're using them as preorder incentives they may well not.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 05:19:39
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Yodhrin wrote: casvalremdeikun wrote:Was this ever talked about? This came from War of Sigmar. I hope these end up coming with White Dwarf. It is suppose to be in the Start Painting kit. Seems weird since there is a SM one that only came out last year.
Was there not some thing where if you went into a GW store and preordered All The Things on Saturday there you got a free Primaris?
You'd hope they'd give them away with the WD, but if they're using them as preorder incentives they may well not.
May's WD hinted we'd be getting a free mini sometime soon. We also got free storm casts when AoS dropped (not me, I forgot to pick the magazine up. Derp.), and AFAIK most new editions have free minis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 07:11:19
Subject: Re:40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Yodhrin wrote: casvalremdeikun wrote:Was this ever talked about? This came from War of Sigmar. I hope these end up coming with White Dwarf. It is suppose to be in the Start Painting kit. Seems weird since there is a SM one that only came out last year.
Was there not some thing where if you went into a GW store and preordered All The Things on Saturday there you got a free Primaris?
You'd hope they'd give them away with the WD, but if they're using them as preorder incentives they may well not.
White Dwarf isn't out until the Friday before the Saturday release, so they could be used for both.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 12:09:17
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Been Around the Block
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H.B.M.C. wrote:
But don't worry guys. Exploding vehicles dealing mortal wounds isn't as bad as the poor souls inside the vehicle, who die instantly no matter how many wounds they have, because in the Grim Darkness of the 41st millennium the insides of transport vehicles are all rigged with Vortex grenades.
I can't find where it says this, is that truly the case?!
(Not the bit about vortex grenades...)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 12:18:48
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Cuz05 wrote: H.B.M.C. wrote:
But don't worry guys. Exploding vehicles dealing mortal wounds isn't as bad as the poor souls inside the vehicle, who die instantly no matter how many wounds they have, because in the Grim Darkness of the 41st millennium the insides of transport vehicles are all rigged with Vortex grenades.
I can't find where it says this, is that truly the case?!
(Not the bit about vortex grenades...)
The actual "explodes" rule is on the appropriate datasheets (Rhino, Trukk, etc). When it is reduced to 0 wounds, before removing it from the battlefield and before occupants disembark, you roll a die. On a 6 it explodes, and each unit within 6" takes D3 mortal wounds.
In the rules for Transports, when one is destroyed the occupants disembark and you roll a die for each model. On a 1, that model is slain.
So lots of 1-in-6 chances of things happening, but most of the time it will just die and you'll lose maybe a couple of models from inside, unless you're surrounded in melee....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/06/05 12:35:38
Subject: 40k New Edition Summary - 4th June 17: Frontline Gaming Q&A Summary (all info in OP)
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Horrific Howling Banshee
Finland
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Based on the rules, encircling rhinos by charging seems super easy if they are alone and without tank shock, they are pretty hopeless to get away by themselves. Unit of 30 hormagaunts should be a fearsome sight for a rhino rush player.
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